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Matt Fortney

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Xception Vs. Crunch Time?
« on: November 05, 2005, 02:14:15 AM »
i'm looking for something new that i can play the same type of shot with as i do my crunch time. just so you know the CT is drilled pin above the bridge, cg straight below that, almost mid grip. ball is very skid-flippy for me on my house shot, i'm wondering if i get an xception and put the pin above the bridge and the mb in the strong position...would this produce the same type of movement? i'm my guess is that it would hook a little more overall (correct me if i'm wrong), but i really love the crunch time, and i love the shape it give me. lmk what you think. thanks.

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Matt Fortney

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Re: Xception Vs. Crunch Time?
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2005, 10:25:21 AM »
on second thought, would the arsenal reactive be the one i might be looking for?
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Re: Xception Vs. Crunch Time?
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2005, 10:57:20 AM »
No experience with the CT or Ex but I have seen both on the lanes, different bowlers though.
The Exception would be closer than the Arsenal Reactive.
I would expect the Exception to be slightly stronger in the back and the AR to be quite a bit stronger overall.

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Re: Xception Vs. Crunch Time?
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2005, 11:44:43 AM »
Matt,

Of the newer equipment you have a couple of options:

First: I think the Xception 5.0 plays the lanes simliar to the CT....it just gives a tad more roll early and a tad more in the backend. This is what I see and my CT was drilled exactly like the one you have.

Second: The Solution PP EX would be my next choice....but you would have to adjust the surface from what it comes at OOB.

Third: The Xception could fit there.....but you will have to adjust its surface as well because the Xception got down the lane even better than the CT.

I hope this info helps a bit.

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Re: Xception Vs. Crunch Time?
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2005, 04:17:02 PM »
MFortney,

Trust Carl's input.
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Matt Fortney

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Re: Xception Vs. Crunch Time?
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2005, 06:22:30 PM »
with the x 5.0, what do you use to clean it? pearl particles have always died and a buddy of mine has a 5.0, said it's lost a lot of reaction. not burning up either...i threw it too, doesn't move anymore. should i worry about it dying?

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Re: Xception Vs. Crunch Time?
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2005, 07:36:51 PM »
Clean and dull is supposed to be the best cleaner on the market.  I also know that with partical pearls it's best to keep up on the shine.  I have an arsenal angular; which is partical pearl, that hasn't lost it's reaction at all but I keep magic shine polish on it.
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Matt Fortney

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Re: Xception Vs. Crunch Time?
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2005, 07:39:24 PM »
cool, thanks, also though, would i drill it the same way i talked about drilling the xception you think? pin above the bridge, mb right of thumb? lmk what you think. thanks in advance.

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Re: Xception Vs. Crunch Time?
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2005, 08:10:44 PM »
From what I know with assymetrical balls pin disatnce from 3 3/8 to 6" flares about the same amount.  The only difference is when the pin is from 3 3/8 to 4.5 from pap the reaction is more of a side rotation reaction.  Pin distance of 4.5 to 6 is more of an end over end reaction.  You will see about the same amount of flare from the pin distances above.  This is much more different than symmetrical balls.

I don't want to steer you wrong with the drill layout but this is what I do know.  So if you want a little more length from the ball keep the pin above the finger line.  If you want a sharp reaction on the backend then place the mb close to the thumb about an inch right of thumb if your a right hander.

On a personal note, I love placing the MB about 2" to 2.5" right of my thumb on assymetrical balls.  This gives me a great reaction that is angular but controllable.

Wait for the guru's to chime in because they can give you a lot more advice than me.  Good luck bud.
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Matt Fortney

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Re: Xception Vs. Crunch Time?
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2005, 01:30:40 PM »
how would it react if i put the pin below the bridge, rather than above? j/w
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Re: Xception Vs. Crunch Time?
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2005, 08:13:42 PM »
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how would it react if i put the pin below the bridge, rather than above? j/w

For the same Pin to PAP distance. Placing the pin above the bridge will elongate the core making the ball go longer and more flippy. Placing the pin below the bridge will shorten the core making it go into a earlier roll.
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