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tenpinspro

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Yet another Mass Bias analogy.....
« on: July 12, 2005, 03:27:19 AM »
It seems I do this every 4 months or so, so here comes another one of my infamous analogies in understanding mass bias.  After talking to Ex last nite, I decided to write this cause even he liked this one......

Let's take your coffee cup with a handle (= weightblock).  Place the cup hanging halfway over the edge with the handle facing inward towards the table.  The cup will not fall over because the handle is helping it stay on.  Now rotate the handle 180 degrees to where it now also hangs over the edge with half the cup and the cup will fall over, correct?  This gentlemen (and ladies) defines the handle as our mass bias.  That sounds pretty simple, doesn't it folks?

Now take your ball and aim it thumb up and fingers down (12 to 6 o'clock) like it's rolling down the lane.  Imagine the handle of the cup is facing at about 9 o'clock.  In this position the handle will pull the ball left towards the pocket (positioning of handle = past val).  

Then place the handle at about 10:30, the handle will have to rotate downward to 9 o'clock before it can fall inward and this placement equates to the strong position.  Reaction = some delay before turning over.

Now place the handle at 12 or 1 o'clock (in line with the thumb or right of thumb). From this placement, you can see how the handle will have to fight all the way back around to the 9 o'clock in order to fall but in this positioning, it actually takes very long to do and can actually pull the ball the opposite way causing the track to clip the gripping holes.

This is a very generic definition but will hopefully help some of you understand the concept.  Please utilize this info to discuss with your driller on your next high tech asymmetrical Track ball.  Sorry to those who already know this but hope this helps those who don't......
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Edited on 7/12/2005 12:04 PM
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tenpinspro

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Re: Yet another Mass Bias analogy.....
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2005, 11:43:27 AM »
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So when your saying that the mb is in the 12 oclock postion would that mean directly under the thumb?


BINGO!
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So when your saying that the mb is in the 12 oclock or 1 oclock postion would that be the strong #2 postion or the #1 mb position?


The 1 o'clock (my example) is our pos #1 on the drill sheet.  Chi, try what I said by marking it with a yel/wht grease pencil and then turn the ball over (fingers up and thumb down) to see the corresponding positions of the mb.
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Edited on 7/12/2005 11:43 AM
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tenpinspro

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Re: Yet another Mass Bias analogy.....
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2005, 12:07:33 PM »
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So basically the mb controls how soon you want your ball to get into its roll.


You got it Chi!  By definition, we call this "reaction shape".  We are controlling the shape of the hook/reaction of the ball by placing the mb in different places(late break, mid lane read and early roll).  Your analogy is also correct, same ball, same pin but 3 different mb's will offer you different breakpoints.  

Okay, one step further....my definition was fairly generic but this applies to actual numbers to pap using 3 3/8 (leverage) as the midway point.  > 3 3/8 = more length and < 3 3/8 means less length.
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Re: Yet another Mass Bias analogy.....
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2005, 12:35:16 PM »
Rick, you have just posted a simple-easy to understand explaination. My hat is off to you. I am now really clear on the MB location thing and now understand why you have been telling me that my MB's are too far away from my PAP on a couple of balls that I have from other companies and why they need to be shortened. Thank goodness, TRACK gave me the proper advice/recommendations right off the start on the two TRACK balls I have. I have had nothing short of excellent results with these two balls.

Hey Rick, I now have a handle on this handle thing....lol
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Edited on 7/12/2005 12:30 PM
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Re: Yet another Mass Bias analogy.....
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2005, 02:14:03 AM »
I have to laugh whenever I talk to Rick. You just can't talk to this guy without him saying, "Now let's say your ball is a ...." I don't know why, but I find it very amuzing; helpful nonetheless, but there is an entertainment factor for me. Thanks, Rick! Start thinking of the next one!!!

P.S. I must confess, I sometimes use his analogies to help others understand as he has done for me. Share the wealth of knowledge.

tenpinspro

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Re: Yet another Mass Bias analogy.....
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2005, 02:57:28 PM »
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I have to laugh whenever I talk to Rick.  


Yep, if not anything else, at least I'm good for a few laughs...lol
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Edited on 7/13/2005 3:17 PM
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