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Strapper_Squared

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06 oil pattern
« on: December 09, 2005, 03:21:45 AM »
Anyone know if/when this will be posted?  What are the lane surfaces in CC?

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Re: 06 oil pattern
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2005, 07:54:21 AM »
They typically don't set the pattern a few days prior to the tournament starting.
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Re: 06 oil pattern
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2006, 01:16:08 AM »
If memory serves me correctly, they post the lane conditions the day of the start of the tourney.  In this years case, February 11,2006.  Could be wrong though.
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Re: 06 oil pattern
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2006, 09:35:58 AM »
Wow!  I checked today and still nothing posted.  That tends to put the people who bowl early at a fairly large disadvantage?  I mean..you travel out in the first month...maybe you have a week to practice on the pattern, while someone else who bowls in June had three months?  Its not a secret...  its posted for everyone to view...unless the USBC doesn't know the pattern until just prior to the start of the tournament (which I highly doubt), why not just post it?

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Re: 06 oil pattern
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2006, 11:57:38 AM »
hope they don't change a thing.  I prefer the lower scores than higher scores

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Re: 06 oil pattern
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2006, 12:40:02 PM »
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Wow!  I checked today and still nothing posted.  That tends to put the people who bowl early at a fairly large disadvantage?  I mean..you travel out in the first month...maybe you have a week to practice on the pattern, while someone else who bowls in June had three months?  Its not a secret...  its posted for everyone to view...unless the USBC doesn't know the pattern until just prior to the start of the tournament (which I highly doubt), why not just post it?

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First comment, practicing on the "official" pattern anywhere except the convention center is not really practicing on the real pattern.  Unless you can mimmick the exact lane surface, oil type, lane machine, humidity, and probably 15 other factors, the shot will play different.  You can get it close, but not the same.  

Second comment, the pattern is not set in stone until just a few days before the tournament.  They can't decide until they get the lanes installed and do some experiments to see what holds up.  Pattern A that works in Greendale may play different once you get to the tournament site.
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Re: 06 oil pattern
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2006, 12:53:23 PM »
I will be shooting a practice session at the american bank center on wednesday morning, I know his doesn't give much time before the tournament, but i will be shooting 6 games on the lanes, so i should get a pretty good idea of how the transition will be, and what kind of shot to expect.  I will post back here either wednesday afternoon, or thursday morning.
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Re: 06 oil pattern
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2006, 06:26:39 AM »
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First comment, practicing on the "official" pattern anywhere except the convention center is not really practicing on the real pattern.  Unless you can mimmick the exact lane surface, oil type, lane machine, humidity, and probably 15 other factors, the shot will play different.  You can get it close, but not the same.  
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Re: 06 oil pattern
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2006, 06:46:11 AM »
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First comment, practicing on the "official" pattern anywhere except the convention center is not really practicing on the real pattern. Unless you can mimmick the exact lane surface, oil type, lane machine, humidity, and probably 15 other factors, the shot will play different. You can get it close, but not the same.



Agreed, Not stating its an exact replica, but at least its a lot closer than a house shot.  If nothing else, it reminds you just how important staying out of trouble and making spares actually is on "real" patterns.  And I would venture to say it will give you a relative idea (or course there are at least 15 other factors that come into play) of the volume of oil.
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Re: 06 oil pattern
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2006, 08:49:38 AM »
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Agreed, Not stating its an exact replica, but at least its a lot closer than a house shot.  If nothing else, it reminds you just how important staying out of trouble and making spares actually is on "real" patterns.  And I would venture to say it will give you a relative idea (or course there are at least 15 other factors that come into play) of the volume of oil.
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Well, the point I was trying to make (and didn't express very well at all) is that I've seen people practice on the "official" pattern at their home house.  Then they go into Nationals with this preconceived notion of how the lanes will play.  Which in turn can cause them to play the lanes wrong for a good portion, or all, of the tournament.  So if your intention is to hone your skills on a tougher pattern, then I think it's a good idea, but if you are trying to figure out the lanes before you get there, IMO that's a mistake.
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Re: 06 oil pattern
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2006, 06:11:21 PM »
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Oil pattern probably won't be published until just prior to the start of the tourney.


True - according to the USBC's head mechanic, they spend about two weeks tweaking the shot after the lanes are first inspected and/or built (ie. Baton Rouge).  There is much work that goes into building the condition and the proof is truly in the pudding.
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Re: 06 oil pattern
« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2006, 08:55:50 AM »
Besides which, if you are not practicing on the "nationals" pattern, on the exact same type of lanes (wood, synthetic, whatever), and in the same conditions (humidity, temperature, etc.), then you won't be able to really get a "read" off of your practice!
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Re: 06 oil pattern
« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2006, 09:56:54 AM »
I shot there wednesday of this past week...

Yes they are the Pro Anvil Lanes

They were still tweaking the shot a bit, but they said this would be very very close and this would be one of the last changes.  I was able to play up the outside, straight up 5 board, the back ends were pretty snappy, I think the oil was about 38 feet long.  The carry was very good,  for singles I shot well, but was just playing around trying many different things.  For the second set, we moved pairs, and I did stay off the corner the whole time, and shot even better. The carry straight up 5 was great. I think I only left 3 10pins in 6 games. Most of the guys that were really trying to swing the ball through the middle, were struggling with allot of over under, unless they were able to get the ball a ways out.  My wife normally averages about 160, she shot 530 her first set playing straight up 8 and i believe a low 500 the second set.  So as of right now, it looks like the shot is gunna be playable outside, but im sure will change just a touch before Saturday.  If time allows, im gunna go on Saturday to the opening ceremony and check out where everyone else is playing to see how much the shot has or hasn't changed.  
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Re: 06 oil pattern
« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2006, 10:22:28 AM »
What kind of equipment were you throwing?  dull, shiny, particle, resin, etc
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Re: 06 oil pattern
« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2006, 10:35:35 AM »
Kinda funny you ask, the first set i threw each game with different stuff.  First game I shot with Purple Pearl Carbide Bomb, Second game with my Tsunami, and third with my Pearl cherry Bomb.  Second set, i threw with my Purple Pearl Carbide Bomb.  Pretty aggressive ball.  Straight up the 5.  If i pushed right, it would still make it back, and leave a 2 pin.  If i pulled it at all, for the most part it would hold the line.  I would say if you've got medium hand, and decent ball speed, playing up the ditch with something pretty aggressive you will score decent.  i never tried anything sanded at all.
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