Post by: rob_mil26 on March 30, 2011, 08:23:58 AM
Anyone else hear that? Tried to comment on the USBC message board but the moderator wouldn't post any of my comments...
Then they locked the thread...... HMMMMMMMMM.........
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Post by: DrBob806 on March 30, 2011, 05:36:34 PM
It wouldn't be a surprise to me, but I don't think they plan that far ahead normally.
The Bowling Stadium was an investment by the ABC, and I'm sure it's not paid for yet. Add the fact that hardly any cities bid on it, and this is what may happen. Once the Orlando thing fell through, they were forced to scramble a bit. I'm not sticking up for USBC, because it is a pain to get to Reno. It wouldn't surprise me if they tried to build a stadium in Arlington, TX.
Post by: charlest on March 30, 2011, 05:39:48 PM
Nice for the western part of the country. For the rest of us, it sucks.
Maybe it will become the Western Open???
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Post by: DanH78 on March 30, 2011, 05:45:31 PM
And you heard this where?
Next, I talked to several tournament people in Reno, and the group I go with is the Chicagoland directors, Orlando is back in the picture. Disney is going to get involved supplying some of the equity. It's not a done deal, but Orlando wants it to happen.
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Post by: DanH78 on March 30, 2011, 05:49:57 PM
The ABC didn't invest anything. The stadium was paid for by the city of Reno
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Armed with that commitment and one from the Women's International Bowling Congress, Reno persuaded the Nevada legislature to raise the hotel-room tax by a point and dedicate the proceeds to the project"
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Post by: kidlost2000 on March 30, 2011, 06:02:13 PM
I plan on going to LA for the 2012 stop but no plans for Reno.
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Post by: Balldoctor on March 30, 2011, 06:10:02 PM
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Post by: daamination on March 30, 2011, 07:01:28 PM
Post by: dballz on March 31, 2011, 08:38:29 AM
i would be ok if we went to Florida, Reno, and another city, and then repeat that cycle. think you would get a ton of entries for Florida, as more people could use that as a great vacation spot every 3rd year.
Post by: kgm32 on March 31, 2011, 08:50:17 AM
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Post by: storm making it rain on March 31, 2011, 09:19:00 AM
I don't think it's the trek so to speak. I'm from the northeast, so I know how long it is to travel there. I'm more concerned with the city itself, it's very run down the casino's are horrible and there is little nightlife for my group.
I like bowling at the stadium, but i hate going to Reno.
Post by: Sikfish on March 31, 2011, 10:13:15 AM
Maybe a new topic for discussion, but whats wrong with it being in Reno all the time (let the flaming begin). Before that, hear me out. The daytona 500, is always in Daytona....why, because they built the track to race on for that particular race. The PGA masters, is always in Augusta, Georgia... why, because that is where they play the masters....I believe that if Reno could get a actual flow of consistent money into the town, it could turn around. This year for me, I thought it was cleaned up alittle from the last time I was there....07'. Yes, some have to travel more than the others, but remember...bowling the open is not yours/my day job. Just some food for thought guys, not a bitchfest topic.......
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Post by: Smith31 on March 31, 2011, 11:00:53 AM
Not to mention when was the last time you saw Jeff Gordon, Tiger woods or Phil Mickleson sucking back a cold one while competing? Discussion for another forum I suppose.
Anyway... My vote. Keep it moving. Coming from a guy with kids. I hope the Orlando deal comes through. Kill two birds with one stone!
Post by: jaydee on March 31, 2011, 11:36:48 AM
Post by: dballz on March 31, 2011, 11:58:13 AM
Sikfish, i do understand your thought. i enjoy going to Reno, but just not every year.
myself, like some others, have kids, so i would like to be able to take them with me on some of these bowling trips. for me, going to places like FL or TX every 3 years would be great. like another poster said, "it would kill 2 birds with one stone". plus, where else besides a place like FL, can you go on vacation and the family not get upset because you are going bowling??!! 
Post by: Sikfish on March 31, 2011, 01:12:32 PM
I got ya guys, I have 2 little ones and a wife to be, but I do not use this as my vacation...I treat it as a bowling tournament just as I would any other weekend thing I go bowl.......and again its not my day job, but I do go out with every intention of bowling well and winning some money, hell, even got to witness my teammate Curtis Odom shoot 300 this year. I too, do like to travel and see different venues, but with the economy and current situations with everyone's jobs, it seems as though having it in reno is less costly for the USBC, but more costly for us east coast folks. The ultimate idea, I believe would be to get this thing done in florida and then build a stadium in, say KC or St. Louis....then we have a east, central and west situation every 3 years. Again, just want to hear others thought and opinions.....
@ the OP - I heard while out there, Reno the next 3-4 years....after Baton Rouge....
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Post by: MrPerfect on April 01, 2011, 08:20:01 AM
Yeah, I bowled nationals at Reno once and I refuse to ever go back to that town. I don't know what the USBC is doing, because for a lot of people that is their family vacation for the year, and the last place I'd want to take my family is Reno.
I know personally, that Disney is moving ahead with the bowling center on their own because my wife works at Disney and the center was moved to her project management division. It's not like we really needed the center, because Boardwalk Bowl in Orlando is more than big enough to host nationals. However, I understand from a business standpoint it would be a great incentive for our tourism dollars if the tournament was actually located in Disney, as the tournament site would be near all of the available hotels and attractions instead of treking across Orlando for your squad.
Post by: triggerman on April 01, 2011, 10:44:32 AM
I for one am hoping the complete the Disney side, as its been stated a lot of bowlers treat this as a vacation, for me lately the last 3-4 years its been a quick weekend tourney and nothing more, I'd like to change that and be able to include my wife and kids, I took the wife to vegas and it made a nice trip, she doesnt want to go to reno all the time tho
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Post by: THEICEMAN on April 01, 2011, 10:46:07 AM
Ditto on what Mrperfect said. I also have family working at Disney (as well as Universal) and the entire area actually has been hoping or wanting that this would eventually get done since it was first announced. I knew about Disney wanting to get more involved from them. Surprisingly the few months after Christmas other than Spring break are their slow period there. The draw of 12,000 teams or 60,000 bowlers conservatively, along with any who would bring family would be a welcome addition to the area. We go to Florida in January as the heat and humidity from June on just are not very appealling to me, but at least through May it's some what tolerable yet. I hope this gets done and in the not to distant future as the back to back Reno trips in 2013 and 2014 would be a lot easier to stomach knowing there was an Orlando stop on the horizon. Moreso if it was a regular rotation like the Stadium is. Funny though as someone mentioned a little earlier on why they couldn't use the Orange Cty convention center. My Brother in Laws father works in the maintenance dept there and they had been wondering the same thing, if there was interest there why couldn't it be utilized until the complex at Disney did get built. So either they didn't want to tie up the space for 7 months for one event, or our mentors at USBC didn't persue. That nobody will probably know.
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Post by: bowl400 on April 01, 2011, 10:49:32 AM
The Women's US Open final is at Cowboy Stadium this year. Wondering how many lanes they could fit in there. Is anything going there from Feburary - July? Seems like Texas would be a good alternative to Reno every few years.
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Post by: THEICEMAN on April 01, 2011, 10:56:09 AM
Another thought though on a alternate site as a third stop....Most obvious would be Arlington by Headquarters but IF the USBC is as hurting for ching as it seems, no way they could front it....Maybe Six Flags over Arlington?? I honestly don't see a mid west, like KC or St Louis just for our convenience. I don't think that is a big concern of theirs.
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Post by: jaydee on April 01, 2011, 11:15:37 AM
Orlando would also be great for the baseball fans who go in March. Lots of Spring Training around around to see. Not sure about the rest of the country, but bowling and baseball go together in much of the northeast.
Ideally, I'd like to see maybe a rotation of 5 regions. Northeast (NY or PA?) southeast (Orlando, Atlanta?), central (Chicago, Detroit, Kansas City?), northwest (Billings, Reno?), southwest (Arlington, Albequrque, Phoenix?).
Post by: kgm32 on April 01, 2011, 11:59:22 AM
Lack of nightlife is my biggest disappointment with Reno. I am not a big gambler so finding anything else to do was not easy. Found a bar that advertised live bands but not one was playing the week I was there last year. Not sure why the Casino's don't have any nightclubs like in Vegas. Maybe there are things to do outside of the area around the alley I don't know. Going back in June so any suggestions would be helpful.....
Edited by kgm32 on 4/1/2011 at 12:01 PM
Post by: DrBob806 on April 01, 2011, 12:03:11 PM
Thanks, I didn't realize the ABC didn't build it, so I stand corrected.
I love bowling in the Stadium, but it is a pain to get there from the east, as others mentioned. I'm not crazy about the Orlando idea, but it would be easier for us easterners to get to.
Post by: Bigmike on April 04, 2011, 08:55:16 AM
I hope the Orlando thing happens. I have a 2 year old who adores anything Mickey Mouse and the prospect of going down a few days early to let the family have a good time every couple of years would be awesome.
I am a bowler like others and will go to Reno, but will not like it. The Stadium is an awesome venue and everyone who says they are a bowler should go once. It just turns into a "been there, done that" proposition after awhile. Plus you waste anywhere from 7-10 hours travel each way with the way airlines are. If you go on those 6 AM flights, the odds are better on getting a shorter trip, but travel days stink.
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Post by: Tex on April 05, 2011, 03:56:03 PM
Heard statements they are having problems getting cities to bid on the tournament anymore. No one wants to lock up their convention center for that long. I know Dallas had the tournament several years back and backed out. We had a area of the State Fair area that was to be enlarged and converted to a convention center and Dallas said they thought locking it into an event with the publicity of the Nationals was a good thing. Bond failed and so did it coming here. Arlington would be interesting, but being from the area not sure I would want it here every three years and can't see any investment for what it would cost. Maybe they could get a local convention center to host once in awhile. A buddy of mine pointed out last night that Irving, TX is building a large convention center right now. I even sent them information about our tournament and USBC being in Arlington. Who knows maybe they would consider having us after it gets opened.
I've never been sold on Disney only due to the cost. I have not gone to Disney World, but everyone I have known that has loved but thought it was rediculously expensive. Again a place I would love to go to every 6 or 8 years like some that do send bids over and over, but every three years. Lots to do until you have done all the Disney complexes, then been there done that, just like Reno.
I just wish more cities and Vegas more often would bid. Don't see new convention centers being built right now due to economy. We did Salt Lake City the years thiers opened and never again. I would love to go there again. I went the first time as a delegate to the ABC convention so didn't get to enjoy the area.
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Post by: triggerman on April 06, 2011, 07:48:17 AM
I am surprised that cities like Detroit, Chicago, cleveland dont bid on this event, with the state of Detroit as a whole, I would think an event bringing in 60000 people would be a boon for their economy, and with Downtown Detroit having 4 casinos, I am sure there is enough space to do one
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Post by: tjj300 on April 10, 2011, 02:57:44 PM
I would rather gamble in Reno than Vegas, the rules are better. I refuse to gamble on the strip, 6/5 blackjack? Why don't you just stick a gun in my ribs and take my wallet? Now, the lack of headliners in Reno is a problem. They just don't get many shows in Reno, and the ones that do go seem to be Friday, Saturday only.
If I was going with the family, I would stay in Tahoe, and go to Reno for the bowling only.
I'm looking forward to Orlando, There's enough to do there for 4-5 trips and after that you can start again.
Post by: completebowler on April 10, 2011, 06:18:24 PM
Unfortunately not too many people looking to build more lanes in Metro Detroit. We have too many centers as is and quite a few are going under in current economic troubles.
Oh well, would love to have the cash to do it....it would be a gold mine I think.
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