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2023 Nationals Thread - All Things Bowling
« on: March 08, 2023, 03:33:10 PM »
Hello fellow bowling sadists! This year's tournament is already underway, with a 3200+ out the gate.

I'm going to make two threads (for the 9 of us still on these boards) to keep a sort of timeline for the tournament. This thread will be for all things bowling related – Teams, doubles, singles, practice sessions, the Journal, the BTM, the expo center, etc. If you have anything you'd like to share, let 'er rip.

And a mighty big GOOD LUCK to all of us making the schlep to lovely Reno, NV. I look forward to seeing the Stadium again.

[Note: the other thread will be all things non-bowling related https://www.ballreviews.com/usbc-tournament/2023-nationals-thread-all-other-things/. You know, the actually fun stuff :P]
« Last Edit: March 08, 2023, 03:39:50 PM by n00dlejester »
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Re: 2023 Nationals Thread - All Things Bowling
« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2023, 05:36:07 PM »
It's too bad they won't have the Forty Framer. We keep losing tournaments that used to be available at or near the USBC Open Championships.

 
It's too bad they won't have the Forty Framer. We keep losing tournaments that used to be available at or near the USBC Open Championships.

Bowlers Journal is still there of course, probably because of Storms involvement.

BTM is a shell if its former self and there was a second tournament called the 123 which I don't think exists anymore.

With at many bowlers in one place, it seems that the local alleys would take advantage of it.


Right...I liked it when the 40 FG was at High Sierra Lanes in Reno. Then they moved it to the downstairs at the stadium. I wonder if this "relationship" that went sour has to do with money sharing with the USBC.

High Sierra only has 24 lanes and they have leagues, so it may not be feasible for them. There used to be a house on Keystone, but it's closed now. The next closest bowling alley is in Sparks and most bowler probably aren't willing to go that far. Somehow Rick makes it work for the BTM though.

With Reno being Reno and most people taking taxis or rideshares to the hotel/casinos, it puts a lot of other places that could hold it out of reach, or out of cheap/inexpensive reach.

Good example: Grand Sierra could hold it as it isn't too far from the Stadium, and closer than both High Sierra and Coconut Bowl.. But also, while it is further out, Gold Dust West could hold it, but that's a 20-30something minute drive down to Carson City.

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You are correct, I forgot about the Bowling lanes at GSR. The is a reasonable distance from downtown.

Gold Dust West is further than that actually. Even with the new freeway (395 is now a freeway all the way from Reno through Carson City), it's at least 45 minutes from downtown. IF you time it right and don't hit traffic in Reno on 80 or 395.
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Re: 2023 Nationals Thread - All Things Bowling
« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2023, 07:18:29 AM »
Chiming in as a 10th person that still pops on this forum  ;D

My group bowls the 25-26th of March, so in two weeks. Got a few buddies out there this weekend, curious to hear their feedback as there is a few really good players in their group.

Cost scared a few people away on our group, but we have a gentleman going to his 55th consecutive event so a few decided to go this year that haven't been in a while.
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Re: 2023 Nationals Thread - All Things Bowling
« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2023, 12:26:38 PM »
We'll be there May 29-30. It will be my first time in the stadium, a bucket-list item that became even more crucial to check off this year because I'll (hopefully) be finished with chemo/radiation by then for cancer I didn't know I had when my family decided to attempt this.

By "attempt this," I mean driving cross-country with my wife and 9-year-old for a combo bowling/sightseeing event that's going to take three weeks overall.

I'll probably bowl Baton Rouge in a couple of years but this may be the only time I get to go west like this, and especially bowl in the stadium. Between the logistics of it all, and getting older, I probably don't have a lot of truly competitive years left in me, so there's a lot of emotions/memories riding on the outcome of this one.

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Re: 2023 Nationals Thread - All Things Bowling
« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2023, 01:29:19 PM »
We bowl March 26 27. got 2 teams from fresno ca. It will be nice to go back to Reno.

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Re: 2023 Nationals Thread - All Things Bowling
« Reply #20 on: March 12, 2023, 02:54:32 PM »
JessN16, wishing you all the best on your treatment and that you'll have some great bowling scores at the stadium.
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Re: 2023 Nationals Thread - All Things Bowling
« Reply #21 on: March 12, 2023, 10:14:02 PM »
JessN16, wishing you all the best on your treatment and that you'll have some great bowling scores at the stadium.

Thanks!

Also, a question for anyone who knows: I know they've renovated/changed the bowlers' area of the stadium, so where can my wife and son sit/stand to watch me bowl?

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Re: 2023 Nationals Thread - All Things Bowling
« Reply #22 on: March 12, 2023, 11:30:38 PM »
Plenty of room behind the bowlers area now Jess. They just need to claim their spot early.
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Re: 2023 Nationals Thread - All Things Bowling
« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2023, 11:07:04 AM »
My single team bowls May 23rd with doubles/singles on the 24th. I am in need of a bowler for team/doubles/singles/all-events and another bowler for singles/doubles. So, if your team has dropped out, there are still options open. You will need to pay me the entry fee for these spots, if interested.
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Re: 2023 Nationals Thread - All Things Bowling
« Reply #24 on: March 28, 2023, 09:57:56 AM »
Looks like I will be going this year after all. Another local group had 2 folks drop, and I was asked to join. Can't wait to shoot 450 again!

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Re: 2023 Nationals Thread - All Things Bowling
« Reply #25 on: March 28, 2023, 11:23:14 AM »

I'm looking at the subs board around the 2nd or 3rd week of June, as my kids and I have our end of year sweepers at Coconut Bowl for our Jr/Adult travel league at that time. Looking at some of the clips I've seen, I'm half tempted to see what's open and pick up a spot. Last time I was at the stadium was 10 years ago, so it would be good to have a go at it again.

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Re: 2023 Nationals Thread - All Things Bowling
« Reply #26 on: March 28, 2023, 01:04:06 PM »
Just got back from bowling out there.

Settee area is brutal for team, the furniture makes it really tight and a real pain for practice time for team event, and with how slow the racks are you are climbing over each over trying to get your practice shots in. That said there's a ton of space behind the seating and it's fine when you aren't pushing to practice.

Team event plays similar to last year, won't be surprised if 3500 hits this year, pattern felt similar to last year, start outside a bit and then move in faster than you think you'll need to, last game is wide open with cleaner shell balls in the middle of the lane. I found myself not moving, or only 2 and 1's when 5 and 2's were needed, definitely feels like fire oil used again.

Doubles and Singles is much harder this year, it's get able, but it's one of those medium-shorter patterns where there is an illusion of the gutter playing but it doesn't really, so developing a hook spot and moving in to it is how McNeil and Vermilya's groups attacked it and scored well. Balls that lock up and go forward downlane in Doubles and Singles are really needed on the fresh, pattern feels very flat. It'll breakdown pretty quick and develop, and by end of singles it'll be playing from pretty in for most people.

I bowled like a toe, behind the moves, way too many splits and missed a few makables so had a very forgettable 1703 all events. Found my Primal Shock fine on fresh, Black Venom really good in Doubles and Singles when they started to break down a bit, and both in team and doubles singles found myself in a Ripcord Launch because it was hard to get anything with any surface to the breakpoint with how fast the patterns broke down.

Bowlers Journal lanes hook a million, and gutter is in play a bit there, pros with urethane are probably going to crush it.
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Re: 2023 Nationals Thread - All Things Bowling
« Reply #27 on: March 29, 2023, 06:23:09 AM »
Thanks for the update.

Interesting the Journal lanes hooked as much as they did. Does the lower end of the Stadium hook more no matter what?

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Re: 2023 Nationals Thread - All Things Bowling
« Reply #28 on: March 29, 2023, 11:22:40 AM »
Thanks for the update.

Interesting the Journal lanes hooked as much as they did. Does the lower end of the Stadium hook more no matter what?

This brings up another question.. they didn't swap out the lanes during the remodel, did they?

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Re: 2023 Nationals Thread - All Things Bowling
« Reply #29 on: March 29, 2023, 11:43:30 AM »
When the stadium was new the low end was generally considered to be better scoring than the high end.  Not sure whether they are on second or third set of lanes.  I had my  best all events on the high end but caught one pair that was tough. 

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Re: 2023 Nationals Thread - All Things Bowling
« Reply #30 on: March 29, 2023, 12:25:35 PM »
Thanks for the update.

Interesting the Journal lanes hooked as much as they did. Does the lower end of the Stadium hook more no matter what?

This brings up another question.. they didn't swap out the lanes during the remodel, did they?

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Talked to Jeff Richgels about it and best info we have says before the 2016 OC was last time lanes were replaced.

And there is a talk that the low end hooks more as a general characteristic of the stadium.
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