Author Topic: 2321 New all events leader!!! (Read 8367 times)

Curt_Dupre · « **on:** April 25, 2009, 04:22:14 PM »

Ron Vokes shoots 2321 all events!!! That is some insane bowling. I can't believe that he just shot the record. Just think in 23 years of him bowling nationals his career best was only 1926. He beat his high by almost 400 pins. He also shot 857 in singles!!!

r534me · « **Reply #31 on:** April 28, 2009, 12:08:32 AM »

Here he is again!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1YfBnBtVxQ&feature=related

I don't think so.

http://www.bowl.com/articleView.aspx?i=15516&f=4

icefiction · « **Reply #32 on:** April 28, 2009, 12:11:00 AM »

lol i didnt either but its all i could find
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r534me · « **Reply #33 on:** April 28, 2009, 01:05:27 AM »

LOL

Now what would you think the response would be if that were him?

mrteach3 · « **Reply #34 on:** April 28, 2009, 06:35:27 AM »

Great shooting no matter what condition is out there.

I keep hearing the term "minors" being thrown around. I have never heard that before. Please enlighten. I think I know what it means, but want to be sure.
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LuckyLefty · « **Reply #35 on:** April 28, 2009, 06:52:31 AM »

riggs statement

"NOT afraid to throw strikes"

One of the best statements ever stated out here....

REgards,

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riggs · « **Reply #36 on:** April 28, 2009, 07:42:08 AM »

That's not Ronny (in those videos).

Considering the number of entries this year, honor scores should be up a little bit.

More indicative to me are when you look at 10th, 25th, 100th, 200th, 500th and compare year to year.

As I said, such numbers were about the same when we went. We'll just have to see where they end up.

Edited on 4/28/2009 8:40 AM

riggs · « **Reply #37 on:** April 28, 2009, 07:46:03 AM »

And thanks LuckyLefty.

Not being afraid is a huge key - you can't get caught up in what you're doing when something big is happening. You just have to focus on making shots and let the numbers add up.

If you start thinking about what you're doing and MIGHT do, it can be so intimidating that fear or whatever sets in.

I remember the year I won the all-events figuring out that I basically needed 550 the last two games to take the lead. I said to myself that two 279s are doable. But I never got out of focus on just making the shot I was making. (Finish was 279-269, which was just enough.)

bass · « **Reply #38 on:** April 28, 2009, 07:46:13 AM »

I think what Rigg's is trying to say is "Ron brings it on every shot".
He gives maximum effort.
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riggs · « **Reply #39 on:** April 28, 2009, 08:00:29 AM »

Journal Sentinel story (two errors - it's Marc McDowell with a "c" at the end of his first name and Vokes had 32 strikes in singles alone):

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/etc/43836802.html

CharlieBrown · « **Reply #40 on:** April 28, 2009, 08:13:51 AM »

quote:
Not being afraid is a huge key - you can't get caught up in what you're doing when something big is happening. You just have to focus on making shots and let the numbers add up.

If you start thinking about what you're doing and MIGHT do, it can be so intimidating that fear or whatever sets in.

I remember the year I won the all-events figuring out that I basically needed 550 the last two games to take the lead. I said to myself that two 279s are doable. But I never got out of focus on just making the shot I was making. (Finish was 279-269, which was just enough.)

That's a simple, but GREAT tip for good mental game.

Thanks!

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EagleHunter · « **Reply #41 on:** April 28, 2009, 09:12:29 AM »

Riggs,
Did you really suggest that 2,223 currently 2nd in All Events was NOT that high?

According to USBC records, since 1989 (the last 20 years) 2,223 would have won 14 eagles for AE, with 2 others having been lost by 1 pin. I don't know where such a score would rank all-time, but certainly you cannot really suggest such a score isn't high...at least for a USBC Nationals score...can you?

Upon further review...2,223 would have won EVERY AE eagle prior to 1989!

riggs · « **Reply #42 on:** April 28, 2009, 09:52:26 AM »

I don't consider scores prior to 1989 to be relevant in comparing scores. EVERYTHING changed that year with the scores in Wichita and nothing has really been the same since.

Heck, when I rolled 1,900s in 1984-85-86 I was the FIRST IN THE HISTORY OF THE TOURNAMENT to roll three straight 1900s. My teammate Mike Shady has now bowled 14 ABC/USBCs and had 1900 EVERY YEAR!!

Based on the winning scores SINCE 1989, no I don't consider 2,223 out of line.

Year Winner T D S Series
2008 Jay Futrell, Derby, Kan. 717 713 753 2,183
2007 Mike Rose Jr., West Henrietta, N.Y. 687 724 787 2,198
2006 Dave Mitchell, Farmington, Minn. 780 652 757 2,189
2005 Scott Craddock, Allen, Texas 672 754 705 2,131
2004 John Janawicz, Winter Haven, Fla 679 687 858 2,224
2003 Steve Kloempken, Ogden, Utah 691 781 743 2,215
2002 Stephen Hardy, Manchester, N.H. 799 720 760 2,279
2001 D.J. Archer, Amarillo, Texas 837 698 684 2,219
2000 Roy Daniels, El Paso, Texas 670 738 773 2,181
1999 Thomas Jones, Greenville, S.C. 643 763 752 2,158
1998 Chris Barnes, Wichita, Kan. 685 755 711 2,151
1997 Jeff Richgels, Oregon, Wis. 774 692 775 2,241
1996 Scott Kurtz, Somerset, N.J. 731 725 768 2,224
1995 Jeff Kwiatkowski, Maumee, Ohio 762 732 697 2,194
1994 Tom Holt, Lubbock, Texas 726 693 771 2,190
1993 Jeff Nimke, Oshkosh, Wis. 701 779 774 2,254
1992 Mike Tucker, Fountain Valley, Calif. 700 711 747 2,158
1991 Tom Howery, Madison, Wis. 782 662 772 2,216
1990 Mike Neumann, Buffalo 707 763 698 2,168
1989 George Hall, Mundelein, Ill. 747 747 733 2,227

EagleHunter · « **Reply #43 on:** April 28, 2009, 10:09:07 AM »

Riggs,
Based on the scores since 1989 I would probably agree that 2,223 would be "in line" with a winning score. But you said you didn't think this score was all that high...

Considering such a score would have won or pin within 1-pin if winning AE in 16 of 20 years (not to mention EVERY AE title prior to 1989...regardless of circumstances), I would contend that such a score IS high...winning scores usually are.

So if you don't think 2,223 is high, then what is? I mean, this "in line" winning score was just best by about 100 pins.

What do you think the scoring ceiling for Nationals should be? Or should it be a scorefest, even if only for the best?

LuckyLefty · « **Reply #44 on:** April 28, 2009, 10:31:51 AM »

bass,

I don't think that type of thing is the result of "effort" or "trying".

I believe it is a result of getting out of your own way and letting it happen.
I think!

REgards,

Luckylefty
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BeansProShop · « **Reply #45 on:** April 28, 2009, 10:44:13 AM »

Just make sure you post your scores Mvpbowler....

We'd all like to see them since they are so easy..

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