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themagician

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3720!
« on: June 23, 2014, 08:31:30 PM »
Ted Pritts, Anthony Lavery-Spahr, Jimmy McMartin, Xeno Garcia and Pete Thomas' team just shot 3720 in team at the Open Championships.
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Re: 3720!
« Reply #46 on: July 02, 2014, 11:20:26 AM »
Another person that can't average 200 but knows how the game is played at elite levels. 

Of course they are making constant adjustments.  Do you really think they broke the lanes down in practice and then stood in the same place for 3 games?   

Just congratulate them on a great day and move on. 

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Re: 3720!
« Reply #47 on: July 02, 2014, 11:23:55 AM »
Let me clarify my "point" just so some here understand that it has not been missed. I've read the rules and nowhere in the USBC tournament rules does it mention that you can't improve the shot with teamwork.

Congratulations to these guys. They practiced, worked together as a team and created an unbelievable scoring condition they could exploit to their advantage. I was there and saw it in person. I was cheering and rooting for them to break the record.

Then again, I guess that's what us "purists" do.
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Re: 3720!
« Reply #48 on: July 02, 2014, 06:27:59 PM »
Let me clarify my "point" just so some here understand that it has not been missed. I've read the rules and nowhere in the USBC tournament rules does it mention that you can't improve the shot with teamwork.

Congratulations to these guys. They practiced, worked together as a team and created an unbelievable scoring condition they could exploit to their advantage. I was there and saw it in person. I was cheering and rooting for them to break the record.

Then again, I guess that's what us "purists" do.

I wish I could post this comment everywhere. Someone supporting good things instead of trying to be a crab in the bucket and pull everyone down with B.S. about stupid crap.
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Re: 3720!
« Reply #49 on: July 02, 2014, 08:15:02 PM »
Just curious, as I do not feel like scanning thru the previous pages but, has it been mentioned that the companion team only shot like 3170...if they were so 'walled' why didn't they shoot a ton as well...not as good?
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Re: 3720!
« Reply #50 on: July 03, 2014, 07:47:30 PM »
Let me clarify my "point" just so some here understand that it has not been missed. I've read the rules and nowhere in the USBC tournament rules does it mention that you can't improve the shot with teamwork.

Congratulations to these guys. They practiced, worked together as a team and created an unbelievable scoring condition they could exploit to their advantage. I was there and saw it in person. I was cheering and rooting for them to break the record.

Then again, I guess that's what us "purists" do.

I wish I could post this comment everywhere. Someone supporting good things instead of trying to be a crab in the bucket and pull everyone down with B.S. about stupid crap.

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Re: 3720!
« Reply #51 on: July 04, 2014, 02:30:59 AM »
rico, I didn't say the shot was walled up. I said the team, with the help of a companion team broke down the shot and put up a great score. We have all seen this happen before. Both teams never seem to tear it up at the same pace. My point that many of these cro magnons don't seem to get is, and there is nothing is wrong with it, but they break the lanes down to make them more scoreable. I just wonder what the difference is between this and shooting a high score on a THS is where the lane man does the same thing. How is making the lanes easier different from bowling on lanes that are already easier?

itsallaboutme, have you watched when these scores are being shot? Once the shot is burned in they sure don't look like they are constantly making adjustments. To an imbecile like you, I guess when scores like these are being shot, you still think 900s and huge team scores happen on tough shots. That's just not true or the purists wouldn't always get upset when it happened.

So milo, you numbnuts, who said what this team did was wrong or illegal? It was great bowling. It's just that a moron like you can't figure out the lanes were manipulated to yield a high score and how is that different than bowling on a THS that was manipulated by the lane man? Take your fat butt and and bowl on the same shot without help and see how you shoot. That was my point doomas, put a bunch of league hacks on that same pair and do you get the same result?

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Re: 3720!
« Reply #52 on: July 04, 2014, 06:43:30 AM »
When they make lanes and a conditioner that won't break down for 10 guys to bowl 30 games on a pair then none of this will be argued.  Until then they will be making constant adjustments even if your untrained eye can't notice them. 

I never said the lanes were easy or hard.  The lanes are not easy to start and good bowlers that play together can make the condition easier for themselves as they bowl.

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Re: 3720!
« Reply #53 on: July 04, 2014, 09:09:11 AM »
I just wonder what the difference is between this and shooting a high score on a THS is where the lane man does the same thing. How is making the lanes easier different from bowling on lanes that are already easier?

Volume. 

On a THS there is a significant amount of volume (on most THS') in the middle and the outsides are dry.  What good bowlers do is create that dry on the outside (by working together) and use that hook spot but that DOES NOT mean there is the volume in the middle and the pattern is (left-to-right) NOT FLAT.

Don't be under the illusion that middle has the same volume and transition that the middle of a THS would have.  A THS middle would, IMO most cases, hold up a lot better through the block. 

I'm not 100% sure that hits the crux of your question but that is my take.
« Last Edit: July 04, 2014, 09:33:18 AM by Good Times Good Times »
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Re: 3720!
« Reply #54 on: August 25, 2014, 02:11:24 PM »
Not the bowlers fault that the balls plow a hole through the super high volumes of oil that are necessary because of the high friction balls.  I don't know any of these guys except for Pete, who is a heck of a player.  My guess is they all play relatively straight like Pete.  If you are a relatively straight player there is a great shot right up 8-10 board in team without doing anything systematic to open them up, other than not moving off the shot and blowing them up inside as most of the young guys do.  I shot 695 in team with a 195 my last game.  Only problem I had was everyone else on my team was inside me all night, and my last game the adjustment got tricky.

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Re: 3720!
« Reply #55 on: August 25, 2014, 04:25:55 PM »
Nobody plays as straight as Pete...the guys got on it pretty good...Pete just stayed right of them
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