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Joebowler98

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Art of Breaking Down a Pair to make a shot?
« on: February 28, 2008, 03:01:51 AM »
I have heard that many of the top teams commit to "break down their pair" to make a shot. Anyone care to share their stragedy for doing this?

 

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Re: Art of Breaking Down a Pair to make a shot?
« Reply #76 on: April 07, 2008, 08:27:01 AM »
We were proof this year that lane management is no guarantee of anything. I still think we had the right plan and just got a bad pair but maybe way out (or something else) would have been better. Regardless, you are going to manage the lane WITH EVERY SHOT YOU THROW - the only question is rational management or haphazard management. And whatever you do you still have to adjust to it and keep adjusting to it and make good shots.

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Re: Art of Breaking Down a Pair to make a shot?
« Reply #77 on: April 07, 2008, 11:17:48 AM »
Why waste your time making a shot if you know how to bowl. If you need a specific shot or lane condition to bowl good. Then you are not a bowler. You are a just another common house hack bowler. In other words you a are a mama's boy bowler that is always whining.

Jorge300

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Re: Art of Breaking Down a Pair to make a shot?
« Reply #78 on: April 07, 2008, 11:46:23 AM »
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Why waste your time making a shot if you know how to bowl. If you need a specific shot or lane condition to bowl good. Then you are not a bowler. You are a just another common house hack bowler. In other words you a are a mama's boy bowler that is always whining.


You obviously have never bowled on anything other then an easy house shot. Teams like Riggs' and others that win eagles and are consitantly at the top of the leaderboard use this approach. The PBA Pros use this approach, you just don't see it because all the practice happens before the show starts. Calling people like this "mama's boy bowlers" is a joke and shows how little you know about the game.

The truth is, as Riggs has stated in the past, every shot thrown on a lane changes the characteristics of that lane, when there are 10 guys on a pair you choices are A) break them down in a random pattern by having everyone play different areas and hope that the lanes are playable or B) Break them down in an organized fashion by having everyone play around the same area. The best way to higher scores is to choose B.
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Re: Art of Breaking Down a Pair to make a shot?
« Reply #79 on: April 07, 2008, 02:52:26 PM »
I use this approach in all leagues.  Your ultimate goal whether you like to admit it or not should be to win.  In my house shot league now, there are a large gap of bowlers, some that average 230 and some that average 130 and a lot in between.  So, when I am up against a stacked team that has an average game of 1100, I like to do what I can to help my team and hurt the other team.  I take a sanded down Fear Factor, sanded with Storm's red scuff pad, a ball I only use on the oilest of conditions because I can make the ball do anything I want as far as hook goes and use it in practice to break in a groove for the other players on my team that like to play similar lines to me, which is 2 of them plus me.  We all like to play the outside part of the lane, which means use 5 as our breakpoint.  So, I try to keep the oil out there and not break it down by playing inside of that in practice where most of the other team plays, which is usually around 10.  So, I will throw the Fear Factor with a lot of hook and straight down to slop around the oil so it breaks down quicker and forces the other team to move.  Then what I will do is take that ball at the end of practice and throw it in my own line and start to make a groove.  The other players groove who are around 10 has already started to break down and my groove is starting to get grooved when practice is over.  

So, to answer the questions, no none of those ways are illegal or unethical, it is simply to gain a competitive advantage on the other team.  In bowling gaining a competitive advantage in practice is not illegal.
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Re: Art of Breaking Down a Pair to make a shot?
« Reply #80 on: April 07, 2008, 03:28:07 PM »
Why do people assume something or say things without knowing the person or persons. Bowling is bowling. My statement expresses that if you know how to bowl. You can bowl in any type of lanes or conditions that is put down the lane or whatever changes or transitions happens on the lanes. I personally have bowled in the so call sport shots and it is just a matter of observation of how your ball release reacts and make the necessary adjustments. I did pretty good during the sport shot league. Learned how to adjust for my own type of release. But you will always find bowlers that starts to whine because they cannot make the shot. I am not saying that they are bad bowlers. If somebody is making a shot I just follow in their footsteps and use what they have made. The mama's boy expression is just for the whiners. Like you said, either use plan A or plan B and stop the whining.


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Why waste your time making a shot if you know how to bowl. If you need a specific shot or lane condition to bowl good. Then you are not a bowler. You are a just another common house hack bowler. In other words you a are a mama's boy bowler that is always whining.


You obviously have never bowled on anything other then an easy house shot. Teams like Riggs' and others that win eagles and are consitantly at the top of the leaderboard use this approach. The PBA Pros use this approach, you just don't see it because all the practice happens before the show starts. Calling people like this "mama's boy bowlers" is a joke and shows how little you know about the game.

The truth is, as Riggs has stated in the past, every shot thrown on a lane changes the characteristics of that lane, when there are 10 guys on a pair you choices are A) break them down in a random pattern by having everyone play different areas and hope that the lanes are playable or B) Break them down in an organized fashion by having everyone play around the same area. The best way to higher scores is to choose B.
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Re: Art of Breaking Down a Pair to make a shot?
« Reply #81 on: April 08, 2008, 01:34:26 AM »
I have not read everything but I thank god that the loacl people are just bowling... taking their ball and hitting the pocket.

Well it is strategy and might be "ok" to do as described above yet imho it is not right... but right and right is not always the same.

The other advantage I have here is that I play THS... everytwhere.... even the trickier patterns offer a drier outside... sometimes with OOB but never have faced a true flat.

The other thing is that lots of people here play with very few revs.... grinding the oil away for them is only helping them.. No need to do that.

and if the spot is broke... I move in two or three boards and I am back in the pocket... THS...

Sorry folks but all that talk about how to make the game more difficult for the opponent leaves me one question... does it make it easier for you?
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