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Title: Bring a dry lane ball???
Post by: Centers on December 29, 2005, 02:47:30 PM
I have bowled 5 of these and never have I ever used my dry lane ball.  Would it be smart to just leave it at home, or has someone actually needed it.
Title: Re: Bring a dry lane ball???
Post by: agroves on December 29, 2005, 10:51:44 PM
I've only been once, used solid resin and particle.  I've heard from others to leave the weakest stuff home.

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Title: Re: Bring a dry lane ball???
Post by: TWOHAND834 on December 29, 2005, 11:04:39 PM
ALWAYS take a complete arsenel to out of town tournaments.  It never hurts to have it just in case.  You have so many bowlers now that want to throw the dull reactives and particles that you never know just how fast the shot will hold or burn up.  Better to be safe than leave it at home and realize at the last minute the ball you need is sitting at home.
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Title: Re: Bring a dry lane ball???
Post by: Centers on December 30, 2005, 12:23:43 AM
well, here is what Im thinking, between now and then (June) I will be taking 4 bowling balls, my Track Rule GP2, Silver Streak Pearl, Triton Elite and my White Dot, unless I get a new toy.  I do also have a Sensor/C that I use for dry lanes, but every year that I take a 'dry lane ball' it always takes up room.  I've never had problems with the ball not hooking, nor hooking too much.  It just seems the more balls I take, the bigger troubles I get into.

Edited on 12/30/2005 1:14 AM
Title: Re: Bring a dry lane ball???
Post by: Goof1073 on December 30, 2005, 06:43:36 AM
I've needed a weaker resin ball (Storm Too Hot) at Nationals before and had to play really deep with it.  Ofcourse that had to do with our crappy team squad time and the amount of play on the lanes.  But if you are on an earlier squad I have yet to see a need for anything weaker than a medium oil ball, but that's me.
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Title: Re: Bring a dry lane ball???
Post by: Charles on January 02, 2006, 12:53:02 PM
Here is my plans: Big Time, Overtime, The One, Big Time Pearl, Morich WMBII,Ice, and Spare Tire. Could leave the Ice at home but like stated, why take the chance?
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Title: Re: Bring a dry lane ball???
Post by: LuvThatWhiteDot on January 02, 2006, 03:26:51 PM
Here's what I'll take in April:

Smokin' Inferno
Big Hit Pearl
El Nino X-It (although I'm thinking of getting a ball for heavy oil, so stay tuned)
White Dot

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Title: Re: Bring a dry lane ball???
Post by: AmfTrack on January 02, 2006, 08:48:23 PM
I have played very deep at nationals with a tour extra drilled to go pretty straight.  In the 3 years i have been to abc's I would call the conditions med.-dry to dry. The shot is still very hittable with a a weaker ball though.  I would def. recommend taking whatever you normally take when you are going to a tournament that you are unsure of what the condition will be.
Title: Re: Bring a dry lane ball???
Post by: Strapper_Squared on January 03, 2006, 11:10:06 AM
I've had just the opposite experience at nationals.  I typically fight over reaction and lack of oil most every time I bowl...  all three times I have been at nationals, we drew fresh shots for singles...and of course fresh oil for team event.  All three years, I ended up using my strongest equipment and wished that I had something a little stronger...  I would say take the strongest equipment and a spare ball...  if you get out there and need something for dry lanes.... buy it.  They usually have reasonable prices.. especially for dry lane equipment .

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Title: Re: Bring a dry lane ball???
Post by: KDawg77 on January 03, 2006, 11:19:02 AM
You won't have the need for tradition urethane, but a weaker ball is good. I shot fairly well with a black PURE Hammer on the second day.
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Title: Re: Bring a dry lane ball???
Post by: Centers on January 09, 2006, 11:26:03 AM
The way it sounds, I need to take something that is strong for the dry lanes.  Something like a Beast, Power Groove or Hot Rod. Either that or just polish up my Triton Elite so that it doesn't have the big back end that it has.
Title: Re: Bring a dry lane ball???
Post by: northface28 on January 09, 2006, 11:36:40 AM
Careful, polish can sometimes enhance backend.
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Title: Re: Bring a dry lane ball???
Post by: DOconTEX on January 15, 2006, 11:16:29 PM
My best year was Albuquerque 2000, 1868 using an old Ebonite Puma.  Even arcing pearl.  Knoxville did well in doubles and singles with an Ebonite Tornado, a weak reactive playing 25 to 12 (inside 4th arrow is usually not my game).  Last couple of years I have used a Dynothane Thing on the fresh and a V2 Dry on D/S.  I have done 13 of these and never had to use my strongest stuff, usually medium or weak balls.  

This year I will take the Thing, the Tornado, a Blue Dot, A V2 sanded, and the V2 Dry.  The Recharge, the Thing Lives and my other aggressive stuff stays home.  Nothing that is really aggressive on the back ends - I get in too much trouble with those kinds of balls.
Title: Re: Bring a dry lane ball???
Post by: NOTHUMB on January 16, 2006, 02:38:50 AM
Everyone has there beliefs but I feel it has more to do with your style and what you are willing to play.

My dad insists on playing straight up 10 or straight up 8 and rely on pinpoint accuracy and perfect speed (which worked in Billings and hasnt worked since). He has less hand so he needs some strong equipment to get the ball to finish (usually strong particle with predictable drilling).

I play as deep as I can with something that will clear the heads. Or if I find some carry down (which I did on one of my pair in S and D the last time in Reno) something that will read early and then set. My 2 best balls the last 3 years have been a strong arc drilled Ebonite Tornado (great length, Ill create the flip), and a more rolly sanded Tour Power.

In the end its about style and what your game allows and what you will allow your game to do. I find the inside to be the most predictable line but you need a ball that matches that predictability.
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Title: Re: Bring a dry lane ball???
Post by: charlest on January 16, 2006, 09:47:00 AM
Many, many times the ABC/USBC plays like a reverse block, but you kind of have to be prepared for anything because almost everything than can affect the lanes has at one time of day, at one time of the year in one part of the country.

A friend, with medium speed and medium revs recently told ne that he has used a Lane #1 XXXL as his strike ball for 2 of the 3 events 2 years ago. I've seen it dry but never that dry.

Like NOTHUMB says, a lot, A LOT depends on your style.

I'd definitely suggest, if you have TRUE medium revs, a medium light oil ball with extra length and extra backend for playing a 4th arrow shot that must go no further right than the 10 board all the way down the lanes. Very often, but not always, the out of bounds begins, for the right side, at the 10 board. SO, you taregt the 12 board as a breakpoint, giving yourself a margin of error of 2 boards. (After all most of us are not PBA quality consistent.) Where you target at the arrows depends on the ball and your delivery.

I'd also suggest a dry lanes ball and a meidum-heavy oil ball, JUST IN CASE, both drilled for control. I've hardly ever seen wide open shots like we get in normal house leagues.

If you intend to bowl the BJI or the BTM tourney, you might want to bring a hevay oil ball. SOmetimes they oil heavy; sometimes you get dry-ish. Also a crap shoot.

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Title: Re: Bring a dry lane ball???
Post by: solid9 on January 16, 2006, 04:45:00 PM

I think you need to keep an open mind when you go to this tournament. Yes the shot will in all likely hood end up inside. With that in mind, rememeber last year the lanes tightened up more than expected, so the shot they put down changed from what was expected, this year you will have the same type of surface, the same type of general wheather and 1 year of experience on this surface.
Title: Re: Bring a dry lane ball???
Post by: janderson on February 03, 2006, 06:17:20 PM
quote:
If you intend to bowl the BJI or the BTM tourney, you might want to bring a hevay oil ball. SOmetimes they oil heavy; sometimes you get dry-ish. Also a crap shoot.


The BJI and 40 framer have been bowled on a house shot the last two years with no rumor or signs of change.  Conditions will depend on that house.

The BTM has been a 42 foot flat (thus sport-compliant) pattern of slightly above average volume (in my opinion).  If you're worried about a flood, bowl a later shift.
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Title: Re: Bring a dry lane ball???
Post by: Bowling Barista on February 04, 2006, 05:56:10 PM
I don't know what situation you're talking about, but I always have to switch to my drylane ball to pick up the 10 pins, but perhaps that's just my inexperience talking.
Title: Re: Bring a dry lane ball???
Post by: bobbabouy66 on March 21, 2006, 04:01:28 PM
I'll be rolling into town with this Arsenal:

Storm Trifecta, Storm Diablo, Storm X-Factor Ace, Lane 1 Tsunami, Lane 1 H20, and my new plastic spare ball which I have yet to purchase!!
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Title: Re: Bring a dry lane ball???
Post by: charlest on March 21, 2006, 08:03:06 PM
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I have bowled 5 of these and never have I ever used my dry lane ball.  Would it be smart to just leave it at home, or has someone actually needed it.


Depends on what You mean by dry lane ball. With you ball speed, you might not need it; with your rev rate, yo umight need it, depending on where you play.

Just got back (Tues, 3/21). The lightest oil ball I brought was a Visionary Blue/Green Centaur, sanded to 2000 grit. I used it for singles, doubles and last game and a half of team. STarted off with a CrunchTime for the first game and a half. Played 4th arrow out to 9 board at 48 feet for breakpoint. By the end of singles I was standing 40 and playing inside 4th arrow, using 10 board as breakpoint.

Outside (Boards 1-8) got slightly more oily after team event; but it's not a true out of bounds. They oil before each team event (2:30 PM & 8:30 PM) and have one sngl/dbl event after each team event. There are 3 sngls/dbls in the morning on fresh oil.

Oil, as I see it, is medium-light transitioning fairtly quickly to a light oil pattern. The heads stay oiled, but the backend is HUGE, all the time. A teammate who I'd describe as stroker/tweener left a STONED 7-9 using a BLue Dot on first shot of singls/dbls; he never recovered from the shock  of that. (Neither have I; that sight will stay with me for a long time.) This is one time I'd strongly advise that, if you have any hand at all, drill a medium-light oil control ball with a control drilling. I NEVER suggest that. (Usually a control ball can be drilled strong.) The condition is a Stroker's paradise!

Oh, on eother thing: unless you have high ball speed, there's very little pull or tug rroom, but I had 2-4 boards of swing room.

Your mileage may vary!
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Title: Re: Bring a dry lane ball???
Post by: Sharpie on March 26, 2006, 05:32:01 PM
I just bowled nationals and used my roto grip rs1 playing down 7 on the left side.
Title: Re: Bring a dry lane ball???
Post by: janderson on March 31, 2006, 10:03:21 AM
Bowled nationals, BJI, BTM, and 40-framer last week.

Used "normal" equipment for nationals and did well.  The BTM extended the pattern another 6 feet to a total length of 48 feet (including buffing) and heavy volume, and it plays like a long, heavy pattern.

The BJI/40-framer was the sahara desert.  I ended up using only plastic (for all shots) and had to swing it 15 boards on top of that.  Still scored pretty well, despite that.

The nationals pattern, according to the head mechanic, is setup to yield an inside/outside shot.  You can play down and in off the gutter if you don't have a ton of hand and can roll the ball.  The standard nationals inside shot is also there.  You can play it either way, but you'll still need to execute well to score well.
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