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sevenpin63

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Changes to the USBC Awards.
« on: August 15, 2013, 11:38:49 AM »
I saw on the 11th frame.com that the USBC starting 2014/2015 season will only give out one LIFE TIME AWARD for a 300 game or a 800 series, and a 900 series. No more multiple awards.
Also no more 11 in a row award.

Discuss.
« Last Edit: August 15, 2013, 12:03:31 PM by sevenpin63 »

 

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Re: Changes to the USBC Awards.
« Reply #31 on: August 16, 2013, 01:30:17 PM »
This is also retroactive, meaning if you are an adult, who received one of these awards prior to August 1st, 2014, you cannot received an award for that score ever again.


Guess I'd better get busy on that 900 pursuit, since I am more than done on the others...

Happy Hunting, y'all!

Where do you think all the savings will go?

Whoa.. I just caught this.. so you're saying that we would need to get those honour scores and multiples done prior to 8/1/14 to get recognized for each one.

Wow... just wow.  :(

BL.

sevenpin63

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Re: Changes to the USBC Awards.
« Reply #32 on: August 16, 2013, 01:37:20 PM »
I see this as being the PERCEPTION of the USBC from the average bowler.

A lot of us on here have our rings and plaques, and even watches, so in some ways this doesn't bother us. But the average bowler see's this as something being taken away, and is the main reason why they stay in the sanctioned league. They don't see nor do they care what else the USBC does. They think well they have taken away awards, so why stay in a sanctioned league.

I cant help but feel this will come back to haunt the USBC, hope I'm wrong but time will tell.

sevenpin63

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Re: Changes to the USBC Awards.
« Reply #33 on: August 16, 2013, 01:39:50 PM »
This is also retroactive, meaning if you are an adult, who received one of these awards prior to August 1st, 2014, you cannot received an award for that score ever again.


Guess I'd better get busy on that 900 pursuit, since I am more than done on the others...

Happy Hunting, y'all!

Where do you think all the savings will go?

Whoa.. I just caught this.. so you're saying that we would need to get those honour scores and multiples done prior to 8/1/14 to get recognized for each one.

Wow... just wow.  :(

BL.


Yes, so you better hurry.

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Re: Changes to the USBC Awards.
« Reply #34 on: August 16, 2013, 02:50:25 PM »
The average bowler hasn't ever thrown an honor score and probably will not. So limiting them to one life time award doesn't effect them at all.

Once the proliferation of honor scores began I couldn't understand why they continued to give a ring per season. Most are probably just sitting a drawer somewhere.

The USBC is losing money like crazy and they are pulling money from the national tournament in order to keep afloat.

But if you don't want a standardized set of rules, support of team USA, local, state, and national tournaments, bonding of leagues, etc, etc, then do away with them.

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Re: Changes to the USBC Awards.
« Reply #35 on: August 16, 2013, 03:50:31 PM »
I've seen so many posts about this (especially on Facebook)  My main question to everyone that is complaining:

What do you really expect to receive for a $10 National Sanctioning Fee?  (please remember that national sanction is $10 the other portion is state fees)

I don't not get a whole lot for my $10 IMO, and when I renew online, my state loses their $1 as well, correct?

BTW, I agree with Riggs on the skin-in-the-game claim. If I am a new bowler, my card should be the bare costs. If I am bowling 5 leagues a week, have 40 honor scores to my name and so on, my card and participation should cost me more.

For every honor score going forward, since it won't be a 900, the only one I have left, I will donate the funds to something productive and beneficial to bowling (Would love to see the ability to have monies donated to your local/City/State/Association scholarship tournament, for example)

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Re: Changes to the USBC Awards.
« Reply #36 on: August 18, 2013, 06:09:40 AM »
The way it should be is no one directly pays a certification fee. It should be that bowling centers take a small amount out of each week's league fees and tourney fees and that goes to USBC and EVERY league bowler is automatically certified. And those like me who bowl a lot pay more. Every other week couples league bowlers pays way less.

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Re: Changes to the USBC Awards.
« Reply #37 on: August 18, 2013, 06:42:52 AM »
Riggs, that's a helluva idea and the best resolution I've heard. Because IMO if they don't come up with something else besides eliminating the awards and raising the fee, I think it's USBC's death knell.

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Re: Changes to the USBC Awards.
« Reply #38 on: August 18, 2013, 08:53:48 AM »
The way it should be is no one directly pays a certification fee. It should be that bowling centers take a small amount out of each week's league fees and tourney fees and that goes to USBC and EVERY league bowler is automatically certified. And those like me who bowl a lot pay more. Every other week couples league bowlers pays way less.

I think your onto something there Riggs. Now only if the higher ups would see it that way.

I wouldn't mind that at all, let the people who bowl a lot of leagues and tourneys pay more than the average bowler. Because this is exactly the problem we have on my twice a month Saturday night league. They look at it as they will never receive anything from the USBC so why join. And when they find out about this it will just make their feelings stronger.

It would make people like me pay more, but I use the service more I should pay more.
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sevenpin63

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Re: Changes to the USBC Awards.
« Reply #39 on: August 18, 2013, 10:11:45 AM »
Or something like this: I will be bowling on three leagues this winter, but I will only have to pay a one time fee.

How about I pay the full fee on one of my leagues, and a partial fee on my other two leagues. More money for the USBC and the one league bowler feels better about someone like me having more skin in the game.

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Re: Changes to the USBC Awards.
« Reply #40 on: August 18, 2013, 10:13:09 AM »
Riggs
A forward thinking idea, don't know if the people at HQ will like that.
But I do, great thought, hope it goes that way.
Bob
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Re: Changes to the USBC Awards.
« Reply #41 on: August 18, 2013, 12:22:01 PM »
The way it should be is no one directly pays a certification fee. It should be that bowling centers take a small amount out of each week's league fees and tourney fees and that goes to USBC and EVERY league bowler is automatically certified. And those like me who bowl a lot pay more. Every other week couples league bowlers pays way less.

That would most-likely kill your Local Association and also feed the BPAA's goal of being in charge of lane certifications and sanctioning.

I understand your angle on this as far as the more-casual bowler paying the same sanction fee as a competitive-seeking bowler, but do we really want the BPAA in charge of that stuff I mentioned? There would be no check & balance here...unless I am missing something.

 
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Re: Changes to the USBC Awards.
« Reply #42 on: August 29, 2013, 09:27:17 AM »
I think Riggs Idea is the best way to go. If people don't see the $20 come directly out of there Wallet then the think is free.(like Obama care) We have a local beat the champs tournament it cost 3 bucks to enter and it is for charity. we used to get about 50% participation. Once the league said they would pay for it. Everyone said ok all it does in reduce the prize money by $3 per person now we are 100%.

Every year bunch of guy's bitch about the sanction fee  and who are the 1st ones to be looking for there honor score award them!

Just my .02