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lefty50

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Heard it in the booth.....
« on: June 15, 2011, 03:26:33 AM »
I just got home last night from this year's trip to Reno, my 22nd year doing Nationals.  It's always interesting to listen to the commentary given by those who run the booths.  Some of it is interesting, some outlandish, but it's always entertaining.  This year's crop of comments was particularly entertaining, so much so that I thought I would share a few of the highlights for consideration.  Some of these comments are so strange that I feel the need to promise you up front these were actual statements told to me by the booth staffers.  Believe me, you can't make this stuff up!  I have suppressed names and companies in order to protect the innocent...

 

"_________" is an absolute jerk.

 

"Dual angles are complete marketing hype and have no value whatsoever."

 

"You need to listen to me.  I have worked for this company for 20 years, and I have lunch with the guy who owns the company.  I don't know and can't tell you any of the Rg's or differentials in any of our equipment because none of it matters".

 

"There is no such thing as mass bias.  Stop and think about it.  A bowling ball is round, how can it have a mass bias"? I PROMISE he said and meant mass bias, this was NOT a cgnomaddah comment or discussion. We were talking about the 6-3/4 MB location.

 

In answer to my comment that a particular polished ball I was considering was well known for over/under OOB and needed to have the surface adjusted... "No, that's wrong, you never want to change the surface on a polished ball.  You will affect the reaction that it was designed for.  If you do not like the OOB of a polished ball, then buy a solid ball in the first place".

 

After hearing this year's group of comments, I am more convinced than ever that I did the right thing when I stopped buying balls at Nationals many years ago.

 

 

 


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lefty50

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Re: Heard it in the booth.....
« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2011, 06:56:19 PM »
That's fine my friend, but you are too nice. The guy most of this is attributable too was a complete ass, condescending and rude.


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Re: Heard it in the booth.....
« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2011, 02:05:22 PM »
I bet I can narrow it down.  (see picture below)

 
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.147990335238418.22660.109735225730596
 
Edited by TrackGuy on 6/17/2011 at 2:07 PM
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lefty50

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Re: Heard it in the booth.....
« Reply #18 on: June 17, 2011, 02:40:56 PM »
Track, I sent you a PM.....


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Edited by lefty50 on 6/17/2011 at 2:42 PM
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dR3w

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Re: Heard it in the booth.....
« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2011, 01:45:16 PM »
I just got back today, and I was thoroughly unimpressed by someone in that facebook photo.  In addition, last year someone else in that photo was an arrogant butt to my friend.   I hold nothing against Storm/Global, but these guys really are doing those companies a disservice.   

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lefty50

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Re: Heard it in the booth.....
« Reply #20 on: June 20, 2011, 03:05:20 PM »
I'll go this far... Storm's got a real customer service issue in the booth.


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Pinbuster

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Re: Heard it in the booth.....
« Reply #21 on: June 20, 2011, 03:40:59 PM »
Lets be honest.

 

If you are running a successful proshop business at home you couldn't go to Nationals for 4 months of the year.

 

Many of these guys are not the best and the brightest.


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jhutch769

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Re: Heard it in the booth.....
« Reply #22 on: June 22, 2011, 01:47:51 PM »
As far as I know, they are not employed by the companies that stock their booths.  They are independent business owners/pro shop operators..
 
Can anyone explain the relationship of the pro shop to the ball company or are they actually staffed by (Storm/Brunswick/Ebo) paid employees.. 


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Dogtown

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Re: Heard it in the booth.....
« Reply #23 on: June 22, 2011, 02:03:12 PM »
To my knowledge, they are all staff.


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Stan

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Re: Heard it in the booth.....
« Reply #24 on: June 22, 2011, 03:17:53 PM »
My understanding is that one distributor owns all the booths and he hires people to staff them. 


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Balldoctor

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Re: Heard it in the booth.....
« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2011, 09:30:58 PM »
Most Booths are manned by independent contractors. Some are owned and operated by
the Ball Company. 


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abrown

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Re: Heard it in the booth.....
« Reply #26 on: June 22, 2011, 10:22:48 PM »
i used to throw only storm and then couldnt score with them so went elseware and all i hear from my buddies who throw storm only is oh you cant score with this or that and now i bowl better and more consistant with what i throw. now is one brand better NO its all a matter of match up with the layout, cover and weight block ive tried my favorite layout and couldnt get a reaction outta a ball no matter the cover. and as far as the dual angle all its ever did for me was make a really good dry lane ball. and having met Pinel i thought well ya gottta know him to understand him. i myself am not afraid to change cover to meet a lane requirments fro me so that guy tells ya that hasnt bowled a tournament shot or hes got tooo many optiones if he wont change cover cause i dont know one company that has a ball for every single transition in the lane if they did they would win every tournament.


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riggs

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Re: Heard it in the booth.....
« Reply #27 on: June 23, 2011, 07:25:10 AM »
I can only speak to Storm (as I am a Storm staffer) but the Storm booth employees in Reno are NOT employees of Storm. 


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kidlost2000

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Re: Heard it in the booth.....
« Reply #28 on: June 23, 2011, 08:03:41 AM »
"and as far as the dual angle all its ever did for me was make a really good dry lane ball "
 
The dual angle layout is a method to consistently drill bowling balls and not a specific drill pattern. What ever your favorite "layout" is on a certain ball you can use the dual angle method to drill the exact layout on any other ball you buy, and be exact every time.


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SKIDSNAP

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Re: Heard it in the booth.....
« Reply #29 on: June 23, 2011, 08:11:00 AM »

 unless the core and covers are different and then the "exact" layout rolls differently and your customer complains



kidlost2000 wrote on 6/23/2011 8:03 AM:
"and as far as the dual angle all its ever did for me was make a really good dry lane ball "

 

The dual angle layout is a method to consistently drill bowling balls and not a specific drill pattern. What ever your favorite "layout" is on a certain ball you can use the dual angle method to drill the exact layout on any other ball you buy, and be exact every time.


Be good, or be good at it.


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kidlost2000

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Re: Heard it in the booth.....
« Reply #30 on: June 23, 2011, 01:20:00 PM »
It is still the same layout, it does not say all bowling balls on this layout will be the same. If customers think plastic and anything else with the same layout will be the same then yes you have a problem. Nothing can fix stupid. In this persons case "the dual angle layout method" made the ball a "spare ball" even though every ball can be retraced to show what its dual angle layout is.
 
SKIDSNAP wrote on 6/23/2011 8:11 AM:

 unless the core and covers are different and then the "exact" layout rolls differently and your customer complains



kidlost2000 wrote on 6/23/2011 8:03 AM:
"and as far as the dual angle all its ever did for me was make a really good dry lane ball "

 

The dual angle layout is a method to consistently drill bowling balls and not a specific drill pattern. What ever your favorite "layout" is on a certain ball you can use the dual angle method to drill the exact layout on any other ball you buy, and be exact every time.


Be good, or be good at it.




Be good, or be good at it.
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…… you can't  add a physics term to a bowling term and expect it to mean something.
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