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General Category => USBC Tournament => Topic started by: J_w73 on May 16, 2010, 12:39:47 PM
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My squad for doubles and singles starts at 9:30 am . How long is it taking people to bowl? Are they starting on time? What time do you get done and out of there?
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18 mph,350 rpm,PAP 5 1/2 x 3/8up, 15 deg axis tilt, varied rotational axis deg.. usually 45+
HighGame 300 x 4, High Series 808
Book Average 205,PBA Xperience 185
Edited on 5/16/2010 10:02 PM
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i also bowled at 930 there is 1 more sing/doubles squad at 1130 so 2 hours seemed to be sufficient. No we didnt start on time we started about 30 min behind
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I'm pretty sure you are supposed to begin at 9:20. Each doubles/singles squad is allowed 2:20 to complete their bowling.
The first three squads of the day (all minors) are scheduled for 7 a.m., 9:20 a.m., and 11:40 a.m.
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ok.. that is the info i was looking for guys. I didn't know if it took 2 hours or 5 hours ..
Trying to make it somewhere after and I just wanted to make sure I would be done in time.
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18 mph,350 rpm,PAP 5 1/2 x 3/8up, 15 deg axis tilt, varied rotational axis deg.. usually 45+
HighGame 300 x 4, High Series 808
Book Average 205,PBA Xperience 185
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ok.. that is the info i was looking for guys. I didn't know if it took 2 hours or 5 hours ..
Trying to make it somewhere after and I just wanted to make sure I would be done in time.
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18 mph,350 rpm,PAP 5 1/2 x 3/8up, 15 deg axis tilt, varied rotational axis deg.. usually 45+
HighGame 300 x 4, High Series 808
Book Average 205,PBA Xperience 185
Roughly 2 hours. Two doubles teams per pair, so 4 bowlers total.
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Do you bowl 3 games for doubles and 3 games for singles or do you just bowl 3 games and that counts for your doubles and singles score??
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18 mph,350 rpm,PAP 5 1/2 x 3/8up, 15 deg axis tilt, varied rotational axis deg.. usually 45+
HighGame 300 x 4, High Series 808
Book Average 205,PBA Xperience 185
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Do you bowl 3 games for doubles and 3 games for singles or do you just bowl 3 games and that counts for your doubles and singles score??
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18 mph,350 rpm,PAP 5 1/2 x 3/8up, 15 deg axis tilt, varied rotational axis deg.. usually 45+
HighGame 300 x 4, High Series 808
Book Average 205,PBA Xperience 185
You bowl 6 games total: 3 for Doubles, then you cross pairs and bowl 3 for Singles. Cross pairs means 1&2 goto 3&4, 3&4 goto 1&2, and so on up the house.
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Jorge300
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However long it takes, if you are late you will get a very nasty letter from the tournament committee about how you were late and if this is repeated you will be given squad times that do not effect other bowlers in future tournaments. We got this letter after Las Vegas and we were very offended. We did not daudle, we bowled as quickly as we could. We were late getting to our lanes and started. Yet we got a bull crap letter warning us not to be slow bowlers in the future. And we spent a lot of money to do so, with little hope of any coming back. We didn't need the crap letter from the tournament committee.
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However long it takes, if you are late you will get a very nasty letter from the tournament committee about how you were late and if this is repeated you will be given squad times that do not effect other bowlers in future tournaments. We got this letter after Las Vegas and we were very offended. We did not daudle, we bowled as quickly as we could. We were late getting to our lanes and started. Yet we got a bull crap letter warning us not to be slow bowlers in the future. And we spent a lot of money to do so, with little hope of any coming back. We didn't need the crap letter from the tournament committee.
I've heard they will try to rush you when they are the ones that started the squad late. After the 1st year debacle at the reno stadium they showed how horribly prepared and organized they are.
I think my Dad was supposed to bowl an 8 pm squad or something and didn't get on the lanes until 2:30 AM.
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18 mph,350 rpm,PAP 5 1/2 x 3/8up, 15 deg axis tilt, varied rotational axis deg.. usually 45+
HighGame 300 x 4, High Series 808
Book Average 205,PBA Xperience 185
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However long it takes, if you are late you will get a very nasty letter from the tournament committee about how you were late and if this is repeated you will be given squad times that do not effect other bowlers in future tournaments. We got this letter after Las Vegas and we were very offended. We did not daudle, we bowled as quickly as we could. We were late getting to our lanes and started. Yet we got a bull crap letter warning us not to be slow bowlers in the future. And we spent a lot of money to do so, with little hope of any coming back. We didn't need the crap letter from the tournament committee.
I've heard they will try to rush you when they are the ones that started the squad late. After the 1st year debacle at the reno stadium they showed how horribly prepared and organized they are.
I think my Dad was supposed to bowl an 8 pm squad or something and didn't get on the lanes until 2:30 AM.
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18 mph,350 rpm,PAP 5 1/2 x 3/8up, 15 deg axis tilt, varied rotational axis deg.. usually 45+
HighGame 300 x 4, High Series 808
Book Average 205,PBA Xperience 185
Don't let this bashing influence you. I severely doubt the 8:30 Team Squad got started at 2:00AM....now it might have been the 11:30 D/S squad hat got started that late, but even that seems like a stretch. Squads can be a little late, sometimes even 30-45 mins sometimes, but I haven't heard of one that was 2 1/2 hours late. If you are there to bowl when it is your turn, and not waiting for 5 lanes each way, there is no reason you can't get done in the time alotted.
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Jorge300
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The only 2AM start I can remmeber I think was in Baton Rouge when I think they had some sort of tanker spill that moved everyone back. 30 minutes late would be about the worst you sould expect.
I was going to mention that.....there was a train derailment and a tanker car spilled something toxic. The tracks run right next to the convention center. They had to evacuate the center for hours. So some people had to actually come back at a later date, and some got stuck bowling at like 2:00 AM, people that didn't or couldn't make it back later. But JRudd is right 30-45 mins is usually the most extreme you will see, unless there is something unforeseen like a lane breakdown or the train derailment.
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Jorge300
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However long it takes, if you are late you will get a very nasty letter from the tournament committee about how you were late and if this is repeated you will be given squad times that do not effect other bowlers in future tournaments. We got this letter after Las Vegas and we were very offended. We did not daudle, we bowled as quickly as we could. We were late getting to our lanes and started. Yet we got a bull crap letter warning us not to be slow bowlers in the future. And we spent a lot of money to do so, with little hope of any coming back. We didn't need the crap letter from the tournament committee.
I've heard they will try to rush you when they are the ones that started the squad late. After the 1st year debacle at the reno stadium they showed how horribly prepared and organized they are.
I think my Dad was supposed to bowl an 8 pm squad or something and didn't get on the lanes until 2:30 AM.
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18 mph,350 rpm,PAP 5 1/2 x 3/8up, 15 deg axis tilt, varied rotational axis deg.. usually 45+
HighGame 300 x 4, High Series 808
Book Average 205,PBA Xperience 185
Don't let this bashing influence you. I severely doubt the 8:30 Team Squad got started at 2:00AM....now it might have been the 11:30 D/S squad hat got started that late, but even that seems like a stretch. Squads can be a little late, sometimes even 30-45 mins sometimes, but I haven't heard of one that was 2 1/2 hours late. If you are there to bowl when it is your turn, and not waiting for 5 lanes each way, there is no reason you can't get done in the time alotted.
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Jorge300
It was definately in the AM. It was the first year at the bowling stadium and it was a cluster F. Maybe it was the 11:30 squad..long time ago
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18 mph,350 rpm,PAP 5 1/2 x 3/8up, 15 deg axis tilt, varied rotational axis deg.. usually 45+
HighGame 300 x 4, High Series 808
Book Average 205,PBA Xperience 185
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I did bowl opening weekend of the Stadium in 1995, and our 10:30 PM team squad started around 1:00 AM. I remember that we were so late that two of our teammates decided to go gamble instead of waiting and got so carried away that they didn't make it back to the stadium until we were walking down the aisle!
This year our 8:30 PM team sqaud was mostly on time (maybe 5 minutes late) but our 11:30 PM minors started at 12:15 AM. I've bowled 11:30 PM minors in most years, but this is the latest that I recall starting.
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In 1998 at the Stadium, a squirrel got in a transformer and knocked out power to a swath of downtown as the team squad in front of ours was late in game 3, with some folks done. Power was out at the Stadium for so long they started informally talking to us about options such as bowling team the next night. Power did finally come back on and we ended up starting a little before 1 a.m. Many guys form first squad did not stick around to finish their third games! That was the first year we''d put together our 10-man 2-team setup.
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Edited on 5/24/2010 11:45 AM
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Does anybody think that the drinking policy has added to or created a late squad problem?
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"Don't worry about voting to ram this bill down their throats. The stupid, idiotic American voters will forget by the time November comes around."
No, it's not the alcohol but the prima donnas who need three lane courtesy that put the squads behind. We bowled this past weekend and finished in plenty of time bowling next to guys in the classified division. No one jumped up on anybody else and everyone was ready to bowl.
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No, it's not the alcohol but the prima donnas who need three lane courtesy that put the squads behind. We bowled this past weekend and finished in plenty of time bowling next to guys in the classified division. No one jumped up on anybody else and everyone was ready to bowl.
Nutsforbowling, if that's the case, why don't they schedule a little more time for each squad? Also do you mean to say that with beer drinking allowed there aren't more bowlers needing to take pee breaks?
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No, it's not the alcohol but the prima donnas who need three lane courtesy that put the squads behind. We bowled this past weekend and finished in plenty of time bowling next to guys in the classified division. No one jumped up on anybody else and everyone was ready to bowl.
Nutsforbowling, if that's the case, why don't they schedule a little more time for each squad? Also do you mean to say that with beer drinking allowed there aren't more bowlers needing to take pee breaks?
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I did see guys drinking during team event, and with the pace that would allow someone enough time between frames to go to the bathroom. We bowled d/s at 11:40 am, so I didn't see anybody drinking around me, except for water and sodas. I did have to go during doubles, and I just waited until after doubles and had to wait a frame or two to switch to singles.
I will say this. Our pair was the last one to start on the low end of the house, and after we finished I countes at least 5 pairs that were still going, some with at least half a game to go. I don't know all the reasons why, I just know that some guys piddle around when it's thier turn to bowl and are slow on the approach also, it's just part of bowling now.
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Does anybody think that the drinking policy has added to or created a late squad problem?
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"Don't worry about voting to ram this bill down their throats. The stupid, idiotic American voters will forget by the time November comes around."
No, it's not the alcohol but the prima donnas who need three lane courtesy that put the squads behind. We bowled this past weekend and finished in plenty of time bowling next to guys in the classified division. No one jumped up on anybody else and everyone was ready to bowl.
This is right, those guys needing 2 lanes need to be told to step up and bowl, I dont know how many times i walked up and a guy two lanes down backed off, about the 4th time I walked off thrust my ball on the rack and politely told him if he needed two effing lanes then take them, then proceeded to tell the lane monitor to tell this guy to get his head out of his azz and bowl, they clearly tell you in the squad room , "1 lane courtesy", usually i just say, "oh I didnt know we were doing two lane courtesy, thanks for telling me" usually loud enough to embarass the guy
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A little history, the current schedule of teams at 2 & 8:30 has not been in place very long. In the early days the team events were back to back at about 7 & 10:30 pm. I was on a shift scheduled for the 10:30pm one year and did not start until well after midnight. Not sure if it was Reno or not but we didn't finish until around 3am or so with D/S scheduled for early the next day. The present schedule was incorporated after many negative feed back sessions. There is now a built in break period to allow catching up and fresh oil for each team event which was not the case early on. They discovered that by splitting the D/S up they could stay close to on time. More time is lost in D/S than team events due to the rapid pace and when your bowling bad there is little incentive to keep rushing.
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I worked at the doubles and singles house for our state tournament over the weekend. We had squads that ran over 4 hours to bowl 6 games with 6 bowlers on a pair. That is absolutely stupid that you cannot finish 6 games in under 3 1/2 hours with 6 people on a pair of lanes. I was working brackets, so it had an effect on me because the bowlers who did finish in a timely manner were hounding me for their bracket winnings. I couldn't payout until the slowpokes finished up. The tournament staff needs to stay on top of this type of stuff and remind the bowlers that it isn't league night and you can't go outside twice a game to cop a smoke.