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TWOHAND834

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Just Returned from Reno
« on: May 11, 2013, 10:30:03 PM »
For the first time in as long as I can remember, my look was god awful.  Going in, there was the unknown of how your ball is going to roll with the new Ice oil.  Now I know why they call it Ice.  For the first 30-35 feet, my ball rolled like it was on ice.  Even with my Enigma at 2000 abralon fresh from the booth, the ball would not read the pattern and would not bleed any energy before it got to the end of the pattern.

I had that ball at 3000 and did bowl at Showcase earlier in the day.  At 3000, the ball was longer than I wanted.  So when I went to the EBI booth, I specified a fresh 2000 pad and the ball looked pretty dull.  So I figured I was good to go. Ummmm....not so much.  Ball would still not read the pattern.  I fought the reaction and left 5 splits the first game for 120.  Yep......a fantastic 120.  Biggest reason for me shooting a 120, was that I tried to do what was best for the team and stay right.  Any other team I would have moved a little farther left.  But we just cant stress enough the "right way" to break them down......SMH. 

By the third game of team event, my look got increasingly better.  However, there is this thing called carry and I just didnt have it.  I started 3rd game going strike, pocket 7-10, stuff 9, stuff 9, strike, stuff 10 and shot 179ish to shoot in the 480s I believe.  For the first time I went in with the "team first to break them down correctly" mentality and all it did was break me down.  By far the worst nationals score wise I have ever had and it wasnt even close. 

In Minors:  had a pretty decent look but still not great.  I shot 203 clean the first game and thought that it was more like it and something I could build on.  Ummmmm......not so much.  Had a few guys start out playing 4th arrow (idiots) and by the end of doubles, track was hooking alot and middle was already going away.  Needless to say, the new oil did not hold up much at all.  Track was very fried up by the end of doubles with singles still to go.  Seemed like every 3 frames, I had to do a 3 and 2 move to keep the ball off the nose.  By the end of singles, I was playing 27-28 at the arrows and just praying I had the speed to get the ball to push and stay right of the headpin.

All in all I believe I shot in the 1550-1560 area.  I went 480, 504?, and 550.  If I had to do it all over again, here is what i would do:   Take a ball with a 2000 abralon finish but with a 2 inch pin to PAP to control the backend for team event and a ball at 4000 with polish also with a 2 inch pin to PAP for minors. 

The people I saw with the best look were guys with very end over end type of ball roll and coverstocks with quite a bit of surface; more towards 1000 abralon as opposed to 2000 or more.  The best look I saw my whole trip was a guy throwing a DV8 Marauder Madness at 1000 abralon with about a 450 rev rate playing up 5-6-7 around 18mph.  He made the lanes for team event look really easy.  After that he moved in to about 10-11 with a Diva at what looked like box finish.  Guys with alot of tilt had a really hard time because their equipment wanted to go 50 feet before doing much of anything.  If I do go back to Reno next year, I am specifically punching up two balls with 2 inch pins with this new oil.   

As far as how different the Showcase Lanes are to the lanes upstairs, they were closer to being similar than what we saw last year in B.R.  We had way more hook on the team event lanes than what we saw on the Showcase Lanes.  This year, the ball reactions were much closer to being exactly the same. 

Highlight of the trip.......I got to watch the Legend bowl the Journal....Robert Mushtare.  LOL!!!!  Not only that, but bowling the same squad at the Journal was another 900 Series guy, Tony Roventini.  Got to see 2 guys with certified 900s bowl along side Matt McNeil and also saw Tish Johnson at the Journal as well my last night there.
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Jorge300

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Re: Just Returned from Reno
« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2013, 04:03:04 PM »
Thirtyclean,
      It is always tough if you have to cross with a team that isn't your own. That's why most of the teams trying to do well come with a group of 10, so they have all 10 guys committed to the plan.
 
      As far as doing what you need to do to score well. I do disagree with that somewhat, in team anyway. In team event, everyone should be doing what they need to so for the team to score well. If it means one person has to play a line that isn't their A game, or even their B game and sacrifice a few pins of individual score in order for the team as a whole to do better, then they should be willing to do that. In that event, you make money off of the team score, not individual scores. So if one guy shoots 750, but his line causes the rest of his teammates to shoot 550 you still wind up minus 50. Where as if he plays a line that favors his teammates more, he may only shout 680, but if his teammates now shoot 600 each, you go from minus 0 to plus 80. That means a lot of money in his and his teammates pockets at the end of the tournament. And I doubt that person would lose much in the way of bracket money as well, as 680 is still a great score to put up.
 
And you may not have thought you were moving oil around, but you were. When a ball rolls down the lane, it effects the oil. Most of the time, it is the oil being sucked off the lane and into today's new coverstocks. But with Ice, it doesn't absorb as quick as the old oil did, so the lanes don't breakdown as quick. But the oil still has to go somewhere when the ball rolls down the lane. You can try this at home. Take a small mirror and put some water on it. The mirror would be today's synthetic lanes, and the water the oil. If you have one roll a marble through the water and watch what happens. Some of the water moves down with the marble, but it will also spread out to the sides more. That is what the oil is doing on the lane. It is much more dramitic with the mirror/water experiment than what happens on a lane. But everytime a shot is thrown down a lane, the oil is effected, it moves, it disappears. And at the USBC Open, especially the last 2 years, if people move inside too quick, ahead of others on their team, oil is pushed out into the other's lines that can have negative consequences for those trying to play straighter. Add the fact that you have a classified team crossing with you and oil will be pushed everywhere on the lanes.
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