Author Topic: My Experience (Read 8112 times)

Strapper_Squared · « **on:** March 17, 2012, 02:32:00 AM »

Quick report. Bowled the team event tonight. I found the conditions to be nearly impossible. Decided to start outside. Had absolutely zero area. Miss a board outside and missed the head pin right... Missed two plus boards and it was ditch. Going the other way, zero hold. Anything slightly projected off left absolutely took off.
After starting terrible, moved inside and found nothing there.
Several 230+ average bowlers on the pair, high set was 570, and drastically dropped off from there (into the 400's)..

I don't even know what to say right now. Frustrating and disappointing... Not really looking forward to s/d.

S^2

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Edited by Strapper_Squared on 3/17/2012 at 0:33 AM

tburky · « **Reply #106 on:** March 23, 2012, 06:49:15 PM »

tog831 wrote on 3/23/2012 2:11 PM:I don't know if i am hi-jacking this thread,but my question is, who wants to bowl on a reverse block pattern.

You never see a reverse block during the regular season,why is the usbc using this dumb ass pattern.I would rather see a flat 50 foot shot .

Even if i could practice on a reverse block i would not bowl on it.I have been to many of these places,the last two Reno and Las Vegas are my last ones i am ever going too bowl unless the pattern is changed.Just my two cents.

The pattern males you think it is a reverse block when you don't play the pattern properly. I can assure you they are not going to make the pattern easier since you threatened that you are not ever going to bowl the nationals.

Edited by tburky on 3/23/2012 at 4:51 PM

bhsbigcountry · « **Reply #107 on:** March 23, 2012, 07:39:10 PM »

I feel like I have a pretty good understanding of lane conditions, lane play and ball selection/surface prep and my question is show me the proof where the outside is oiled more than middle of the lane?

By the looks of the tapes from the first 7 and 15 feet it seems to me there is still more oil in the middle. Even at 37 feet of the 39 foot pattern there is still a slight difference in the amount of oil from out to in. But then again I may be wrong??

tog831 wrote on 3/23/2012 5:18 PM:while i respect peoples opinion on this subject if you oil the out side boards heavier than the middle it is a reverse block.If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it must be a duck.

Shawn Naumann

Edited by bhsbigcountry on 3/23/2012 at 5:41 PM

Greazygeo · « **Reply #108 on:** March 23, 2012, 08:22:26 PM »

I just bowled Mon/Tue 19th and 20th. Its not a reverse block shot at all. There is oil on the outside of the lane where on a THS there isn't. It was quite difficult, but there was a shot when you hit it. Instead of 15 boards of area you had 1.

tog831 wrote on 3/23/2012 5:18 PM:while i respect peoples opinion on this subject if you oil the out side boards heavier than the middle it is a reverse block.If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it must be a duck.

r534me · « **Reply #109 on:** March 24, 2012, 02:03:55 AM »

Keep in mind there is a track area that will dictate how the ball will roll and it's not likely to be outside. Plus, other bowlers are pulling oil off the lanes with their balls creating a hook spot.

edit: #Tog - have you noticed how they played the U.S. Open? Almost no one plays the outside on it because they are aiming at the 3 pin and trying not to go away the pocket.

tog831 wrote on 3/23/2012 2:11 PM:I don't know if i am hi-jacking this thread,but my question is, who wants to bowl on a reverse block pattern.

You never see a reverse block during the regular season,why is the usbc using this dumb ass pattern.I would rather see a flat 50 foot shot .

Even if i could practice on a reverse block i would not bowl on it.I have been to many of these places,the last two Reno and Las Vegas are my last ones i am ever going too bowl unless the pattern is changed.Just my two cents.

Edited by r534me on 3/28/2012 at 9:13 AM

bass · « **Reply #110 on:** March 24, 2012, 10:03:34 AM »

I also bowled on the 19th and 20th.

The shot might "feel" like a reverse block but it isn't.

To have success at this tournament;

1) you need to know your equipment.

2) know your teammates games and equipment.

3) be flexible in where you can/want to play on the lanes.

4) maximize every break you get.

5) don't miss spares.

This will increase your all events score by 75-100 pins.

People also have to remember that more than likely you will be out of your normal routine i.e. sleep patterns, eating habits along with drinking habits.

Trying the local fare is fun but do it in moderation.

Myself I am allergic to shellfish so while I would love to experiment with the local foods I do not want a visit the local hospital to be apart of my trip.

A "calmer" hand and keeping the game simple should increase your scores also.

Almost all things are better when they come from Texas.Except maybe the USBC. LOL

strikeking · « **Reply #111 on:** March 24, 2012, 02:05:21 PM »

Some "bowlers" are just waking up to the fact that real bowling is not just standing left and flinging it right. In my humble opinion, THS has ruined the sport. As has the "hook in the box" balls.

Strikeking

shipper50 · « **Reply #112 on:** March 26, 2012, 10:09:24 AM »

I couldnt agree more with the words below.

Shipper

strikeking wrote on 3/24/2012 12:05 PM:
Some "bowlers" are just waking up to the fact that real bowling is not just standing left and flinging it right. In my humble opinion, THS has ruined the sport. As has the "hook in the box" balls.

Strikeking

mainzer · « **Reply #113 on:** March 27, 2012, 07:21:20 PM »

I agree with the first part of that statment I do not agree with the second half, Hook in a box means nothing if it is not used on the proper conditions, drilled properly, released properly etc. In that sense yellow dots were far simpilar to use than the modern gear. For older bowlers the use of the newer equipment is beyond their reach they don't even understand how much the sport has changed with that type of equipment.

To Tog81 or whatever the screen name is. Quit whining and just bowl. Be a man learn to change your game to meet the pattern because that is what the sport is about adjusting. Probably the same guy that refuses to golf at a golf course that has a water hazard.

strikeking wrote on 3/24/2012 12:05 PM:
Some "bowlers" are just waking up to the fact that real bowling is not just standing left and flinging it right. In my humble opinion, THS has ruined the sport. As has the "hook in the box" balls.

Strikeking

MainzerPower

Russell · « **Reply #114 on:** March 28, 2012, 10:22:10 AM »

lol...oh the irony of your statement....(reverse block)

tog831 wrote on 3/28/2012 8:02 AM:Mainzer what a clue less half wit you are.You couldn't recognize a water hazard if it hit you in the tail.

Little known fact: In Russian "Hope" and "Change" translate to "Tax" and "Spend"

Good Times Good Times · « **Reply #115 on:** March 28, 2012, 10:53:20 AM »

Thats exactly what I was thinking! LOL

Russell wrote on 3/28/2012 8:22 AM:
lol...oh the irony of your statement....(reverse block)

tog831 wrote on 3/28/2012 8:02 AM:
Mainzer what a clue less half wit you are.You couldn't recognize a water hazard if it hit you in the tail.

Little known fact: In Russian "Hope" and "Change" translate to "Tax" and "Spend"

GetOffMe10Pin

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bowlingnut07 · « **Reply #116 on:** March 28, 2012, 11:58:13 AM »

i just got back myself and had a blast.

didnt bowl well and i figured i wouldnt . this shot is very difficult and gives a person virtually

no room to miss. miss left of your mark and ur gonna miss the headpin BIG time.

miss right and ball dont move. That was in both squads. singles and doubles we bowled.

3rd shift and the heads were totally burned up even urathane and plastic hooked alot.

i shot 563 in team with 250.00 in brackets got 515.00 back , there just wasnt any big scores in that squad.

never shot a 200 game either and im a 230 avg bowler at home. and this isnt a complaint

but the statement about league bowlers being shut out is pretty accurate. i loved the challenge

and will go back next year. the reality is alot will not go back. one guy in the team squad before us threw his shoes off in game 2 and threw his balls in the trash and walked out screaming THIS IS BS!! lol was crazy

« **Reply #117 on:** March 28, 2012, 12:45:54 PM »

Thanks for the report, bowlingnut. I have practiced twice on the pattern and it's demanding, but not impossible. I go in 3 weeks and plan on it being difficult, but like you, I love the challenge of tough conditions. Trying to keep the adrenaline in check is always tough at Nationals so I tend to increase the revs and get plenty of splits as a result.

I find it hilarious that the bowler tossed his stuff in the trash and left. He may regret it when he returns home to league play and needs to purchase new shoes, etc.

Lane Carter, Strike Zone Pro Shops - Salt Lake City, Utah

Allstar Lanes

Brunswick Regional Staff

The opinions expressed are solely those of the writer and not of Brunswick Corporation.

bhsbigcountry · « **Reply #118 on:** March 28, 2012, 05:38:03 PM »

notclay wrote on 3/28/2012 10:45 AM:

Thanks for the report, bowlingnut. I have practiced twice on the pattern and it's demanding, but not impossible. I go in 3 weeks and plan on it being difficult, but like you, I love the challenge of tough conditions. Trying to keep the adrenaline in check is always tough at Nationals so I tend to increase the revs and get plenty of splits as a result.

I find it hilarious that the bowler tossed his stuff in the trash and left. He may regret it when he returns home to league play and needs to purchase new shoes, etc.

Lane Carter, Strike Zone Pro Shops - Salt Lake City, Utah

Allstar Lanes

Brunswick Regional Staff

The opinions expressed are solely those of the writer and not of Brunswick Corporation.

You got it right by saying its demanding but not impossible. They are tougher than last year but are not impossible. If they were impossible why have a few guys out there (including a good friend of mine Matthew Tuckfield) shot 300? Why is 785 Leading singles, 1429 leading doubles, and 3401 leading team? I know all about opening up a pattern with team and what not but still if they were impossible why these scores?

Its the same as I said before. Its harder than the house china that so many out there have grown used to. So when House shot Harry goes and bowls where he/she doesnt have free hook to the right and hold in its an automatic response that they are "impossible" and there is no area to miss and all those same excuses. It just kills me reading over and over how impossible they are this and hard they are that. They should be hard and if you dont want to come back and bowl because your ego was bruised becuase you didnt average 220+ then why are you bowling in the first place? If you dont practice and want to learn how to bowl on any condition why should the rest of use that do spend time learning the game bow down to you to make you feel good??

Shawn Naumann

mainzer · « **Reply #119 on:** March 28, 2012, 07:27:26 PM »

Did he seriously erase his posts??

MainzerPower

ccrider · « **Reply #120 on:** March 28, 2012, 07:52:42 PM »

Yep. Maybe the USBC could come up with a button like this for the whiners that thought they could bowl who went to Louisiana and were forced to see the harsh reality that they are "housebowler harry." Push a button, erase your score and nobody knows just how bad you really are.

mainzer wrote on 3/28/2012 5:27 PM:
Did he seriously erase his posts??

MainzerPower

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