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jlee0924

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Training/practicing for a sport shot/tournament on THS?
« on: January 07, 2014, 11:15:18 PM »
I recently got back into bowling after a 8 year hiatus and have been averaging around 220-230 in various houses on their THS. As a pompous, ego-inflated tournament novice, I thought I would excel in a local tournament.

Absolutely wrong. Averaged only 167 on the tournament conditions. (The house used a 2009 USBC Junior Gold pattern...my first time bowling on a sport shot.) I had a harsh reality check that the THS has masked so much of my flaws. After the tournament was over, I practiced 5 games of open bowling on the tournament lanes and still could not even break 190.

I have heard time and time again how the conditions that the pros play on are much tougher conditions, and the myth of "I average xxx at a local league, better than what the pros shoot on tv; therefore, I must be good enough to be pro", but I didn't know it was going to be this tough. Extremely humbling, to say the least. I have that much more respect for PBA pros, amateurs, and the youth USBC tournaments now.

My question is, given that PBA experience/sport shot leagues aren't so accessible to me for the next couple years or so (due to geography/time), are there some practice tips using a THS for the time being? Can certain parts of the lane with THS be more challenging and can perhaps mimic a sport shot condition? (e.g. maybe the extreme outside near the gutter or the extreme inside and stay in the oil). How do competitive tournament bowlers and the pros practice on THS?

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A few things I learned:

1. I can't trust the scoreboard on THS anymore. The THS masks so many flaws I have in my shotmaking. I'll actually stop looking at the scores and focus more on shotmaking.
2. Might look into investing in a spare ball. Spareshooting is so key when it's hard to just even hit the pocket. Even 10 pins and 7 pins were extremely challenging because I got so used to my ball hooking at the last few feet of the lane to avoid the gutter. I will try relearning how to make spares again using a plastic ball.
3. Will start videotaping and reexamine my fundamentals.
4. Will avoid shooting around the 2nd arrow for my strike ball on THS...that track area is so money. Will start to get comfortable in other areas of the lane.

Any suggestions to add to this 'to-do list' for practicing for the next tournament? Any advice/discussion is welcome...thanks for all the great posts in the forum. I have learned so much here at the forums.


 

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Re: Training/practicing for a sport shot/tournament on THS?
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2014, 11:19:05 PM »
What was the scoring pace? You need to consider this when evaluating your performance.
Also, you need to yes learn the difference between a good shot & a bad one...not merely striking.
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Re: Training/practicing for a sport shot/tournament on THS?
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2014, 11:22:00 PM »
It seems like you have a good general idea. The best way to get used to it is bowling on tougher conditions. Try and find out if the center nearest you puts out a sport shot 1 or 2 days a week for a little while.
For me, my current center puts out a sport shot on 2 pairs Sunday and Monday mornings til the lanes are oiled again at night for leagues

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« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2014, 11:56:42 PM »
Great to see you want to improve.
#1:get that spare ball.
#2:Here is what I started doing for practice on THS; for 40-50 frames I use my plastic ball playing the gutter. Why? Because I need to execute/repeat the same release in order hit the pocket. I need to feel what a good release is and lock that into muscle memory.
#3: I then throw my resin ball for 10 frames to execute what I practiced.

Also work on your spares. Strikes for show, spares for Dough$$$$.

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Re: Training/practicing for a sport shot/tournament on THS?
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2014, 08:34:57 AM »
Like stated above..  Get a spare ball, and more importantly, learn to throw hard and straight at spares.  Another thing you can do on a house shot is take your weakest ball and move really deep inside to say 4th arrow or (wherever gives you the least amount of miss room). If your reaction is weak enough it will exaggerate your misses and you will be forced to make better shots. Don't pay too much attention to weak hits, just work on repeating and hitting your target.

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Re: Training/practicing for a sport shot/tournament on THS?
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2014, 09:34:22 AM »
I'm right there with you.  While my THS average has never been as high as yours, I still felt that I could compete at tournaments.  I've been to a few now and I have averaged 160s, so defeating and demoralizing.  I started practicing more, attended an IAB Bootcamp, and invested in my game and equipment.  I still cannot figure it out and my league average has dipped quite a bit.  I'm back to just having fun with the guys one night a week.  I may go to a few more tournaments, but dropping into a handicap division until my tournament average comes up.

That all being said:

Spares spares spares spares, it cannot be said enough.

Targeting is important, but it will be difficult to simulate the transition that will occur and staying ahead of that is what the pros do so well.

Basically you need to be able to consistently repeat shots.  Speed, Revs, rotation, it needs to be the same if you want to be able to make an educated decision on what needs to happen on the next shot.

When the lights go on at the next tournament and you step up on the approach, you need to "hit play".  Meaning no thinking about the past, no thinking about your feet, arm swing, shoulders, or knee bend...just breathe and bowl.  After each shot you can think about all of that stuff and think about how the ball reacted or didn't react and make adjustments.

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Re: Training/practicing for a sport shot/tournament on THS?
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2014, 09:47:52 AM »
Pay your dues.  That's how you get better.  All the practice in the world won't matter unless you get out and do it.

 

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Re: Training/practicing for a sport shot/tournament on THS?
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2014, 10:07:17 AM »
Pay your dues.  That's how you get better.  All the practice in the world won't matter unless you get out and do it.

Unfortunately, this is so true.  Some people think you can practice for sport shots on a THS but to become truly proficient, you will need to practice on sport shots.  Whether that means getting lanes oiled for you or competing in more tournaments, you will need to bowl on various sport shots.

Spare shooting - Like others, I suggest getting a spare ball.  But not only do you need to practice shooting spares, you also need to know how to shoot all possible pin combinations.  What I mean is how do you approach each spare.  Should you shoot washouts from the right side or left side?  How should you approach a 3-6-10 or 3-6-9-10 (right handed)?  What are the affects of long and short oil on your spare shooting?  This is very important.  If you can go into a tournament with a definite plan on how to shoot your spares, you can eliminate some of the stresses of shooting them.

Equipment - I don't know how you bowl or how your equipment is set up, but it can have an effect on your success.  Especially on the extreme patterns (very long or very short).

Mindset - Lastly, eliminate any perceptions of your performance based on score.  Like JustRico said, judge your performance by how you threw the ball and executed.  If you can break it all down to executing each shot as its own entity and eliminate any lasting emotional carryover from the result you will have a better mindset.  It should be a process of several individual shots.

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Re: Training/practicing for a sport shot/tournament on THS?
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2014, 10:19:07 AM »
I have been fortunate or unlucky depending on how you look at it!

On medium and very long sport shots I have often outscored my league averages.  Sometimes by a considerable amount.

I have taken 3 steps plus 1 to be able to do this(I claim no ability at Cheetah).
1.  Spare ball and lots of what I call sweet sixteen practice back and forth across the face of the pins.
2.finding balls that are too weak to carry in league for most of the medium length shots.
3.  For very long oil shots I find balls I can slow down, rev up, point with and match backend to the available backend.

Fortunately for me though I never did practice on a sports shot before I shot my first high 6 on the first one I saw, I heard them describe the jump off the back.  Took a weak ball that was essentially too dead for league.  Moved deep inside during the warm up(near the 4th arrow for a lefty).  Made sure my arm never swung out into the out of bounds.

Fortunately my local bowling tournaments decided after some lucky lefty won some local tournaments handicap tournaments to flood every tournament shot that I played on, I learned how to point on various lines in the 5 to 9, 4 to 8, 5 to 10 area week after week and found the balls that worked best on this.  High rgs with some good diff and various surfaces!  Some of the tournament organizers said the shots were up to 50 feet.  Balls that were used for these FTL long flat oil shots were Track Spell, Brunswick Demolition Zone, and a Brunswick Battle Zone.  The last one often shocked people!

Note the longer patterns were not Shark which I perceive as needing to be played inside with a pretty strong move at the back.

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PS many consider me back in those times to be rev heavy and slow.  Now I am getting  faster and my league average is steadily rising on a high friction shot.
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Re: Training/practicing for a sport shot/tournament on THS?
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2014, 04:43:53 PM »

The only thing I can think of is to try different lines regardless of where your ball ends up and regardless of score.  I'd suggest lines that keep you closer to the pocket even if it goes Brooklyn on the THS.  Your eyes need to be accustomed to seeing different angles so next time it doesn't freak you out when you don't necessarily find friction outside and need to move inward.  In other words assume you only have 3-5 boards of recovery on the back end instead of 12-15 boards...

Becoming good with a spare ball is important, but generally speaking, if you throw polyester at spares it won't matter whether the lanes are oiled this way or that way.  Your lines should be the same since the ball goes straight.


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Re: Training/practicing for a sport shot/tournament on THS?
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2014, 04:58:11 PM »
Like stated above..  Get a spare ball, and more importantly, learn to throw hard and straight at spares.  Another thing you can do on a house shot is take your weakest ball and move really deep inside to say 4th arrow or (wherever gives you the least amount of miss room). If your reaction is weak enough it will exaggerate your misses and you will be forced to make better shots. Don't pay too much attention to weak hits, just work on repeating and hitting your target.

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Re: Training/practicing for a sport shot/tournament on THS?
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2014, 06:13:39 PM »
First issue is understanding what a good shot is...practicing improperly is as damaging as anything. Secondly, as stated, get a spare ball...changing your release & tempo is not optimum especially in the 10th.
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Re: Training/practicing for a sport shot/tournament on THS?
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2014, 04:34:39 PM »
Thanks everyone for all the great advice! Definitely much appreciated and I have been training hard by bowling with my videocamera, shooting 2-3 games per practice session shooting only at the 7 or 10 pin, and practicing on areas of the lanes that I am not comfortable with (deep inside, extreme outside) to become a general better bowler.

JustRico - You're right, I'm starting to discern what a good shot vs. bad shot is now. After every shot, I ask myself "did I hit my mark/arrow + or - 1 board?" and "did it feel consistent in terms of speed/revs as my last shot?" and don't pay attention to the pindeck or scoreboard at all now.

9orbetter - I like your practice idea...and that's what I've started doing now on THS.

northface28 - I agree...when I'm angry at the 10 pin and try to take it down with the fastest shot I can shoot (almost like I'm at some carnival and trying set a record), I always miss it and adds insult to injury haha. I was pretty shocked to find that I have been releasing my ball at a 10 o'clock position (I'm a righty) instead of a 1 or 2 o'clock position (almost like a lefty's hook ball) after reviewing my video for 10 pin spares...no wonder why it hooks at the end! Video reveals so much and gives a reality check.

Thanks again everyone