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General Category => USBC Tournament => Topic started by: coop1760 on March 08, 2019, 08:30:37 PM

Title: Nationals lineup.
Post by: coop1760 on March 08, 2019, 08:30:37 PM
Just starting to prep for nationals and not sure what i should take or add to the arsenal this year.  Any and all help would be great thanks. 

Crux prime pin up
Halo pin up
Idol pin up
Winner solid pin up
Hyroad nano pin up
Furious pin up
Intense pin down
Pba60 pin up (basically the iq tour pearl)
Hot cell pin up
Natural pin down
Spare ball
Title: Re: Nationals lineup.
Post by: northface28 on March 08, 2019, 08:55:12 PM
Crux prime
Idol
Winner solid
Intense
Spare ball
Title: Re: Nationals lineup.
Post by: bullred on March 08, 2019, 10:21:15 PM
Having a good solid physical game, teamed with a strong mental game to adjust to lane conditions will replace most of your balls.   If you don't have the skills, all the balls you can drill won't get you there.  All the money you have in balls could have gone a long way in coaching.   Ball and drills won't replace good instruction and proper practise.   I used to love guys like you when I was in the business.
Title: Re: Nationals lineup.
Post by: northface28 on March 09, 2019, 07:06:10 AM
Having a good solid physical game, teamed with a strong mental game to adjust to lane conditions will replace most of your balls.   If you don't have the skills, all the balls you can drill won't get you there.  All the money you have in balls could have gone a long way in coaching.   Ball and drills won't replace good instruction and proper practise.   I used to love guys like you when I was in the business.

This, I was just trying to be nice.
Title: Re: Nationals lineup.
Post by: coop1760 on March 09, 2019, 07:17:41 AM
FYI you might want to know a little bit about the person you start to talk down to them.  I do get lessons from a very reputable coach.  I feel my physical game is up to par was just sending out a feeler about what everyone is taking to vegas this year.  So thanks for your input.
Title: Re: Nationals lineup.
Post by: DrBob806 on March 09, 2019, 12:08:23 PM
FYI you might want to know a little bit about the person you start to talk down to them.  I do get lessons from a very reputable coach.  I feel my physical game is up to par was just sending out a feeler about what everyone is taking to vegas this year.  So thanks for your input.

I'm heading out in late April, and haven't really figured out what I'm bringing yet, it's too early. I always take a plastic ball, a dull solid, something flippy, and a ball that "keeps me in play."

National is hit or miss for me. I've gone 15 times, and bowled really well 5 times, totally stunk about 4 times, and the other ones were just "so so" with a lousy couple games.

Knowing the shot before hand didn't really help me much, but I still wish they informed us of at least the lengths of the patterns. Ultimately, I think it's frame-of-mind that leads you to success. I read online somewhere, forgive me I don't know where, that the patterns were analyzed for the last 10 National tournaments, and they didn't really vary a whole lot as far as length and volume, just different surfaces and type of oil.

Good luck out there, you know they'll be tough.
Title: Re: Nationals lineup.
Post by: northface28 on March 09, 2019, 01:31:39 PM
Use a LOT (500) of surface in D/S and beat them up to the right.
Title: Re: Nationals lineup.
Post by: Impending Doom on March 09, 2019, 03:25:10 PM
Having a good solid physical game, teamed with a strong mental game to adjust to lane conditions will replace most of your balls.   If you don't have the skills, all the balls you can drill won't get you there.  All the money you have in balls could have gone a long way in coaching.   Ball and drills won't replace good instruction and proper practise.   I used to love guys like you when I was in the business.

This, I was just trying to be nice.

That's not your forte. Stick with what got you to the dance.
Title: Re: Nationals lineup.
Post by: ACES80 on March 10, 2019, 08:54:51 AM
PhysiX at 2000
Idol Pearl 3000
BlackWidow spare ball
Title: Re: Nationals lineup.
Post by: northface28 on March 10, 2019, 11:06:54 AM
Having a good solid physical game, teamed with a strong mental game to adjust to lane conditions will replace most of your balls.   If you don't have the skills, all the balls you can drill won't get you there.  All the money you have in balls could have gone a long way in coaching.   Ball and drills won't replace good instruction and proper practise.   I used to love guys like you when I was in the business.

This, I was just trying to be nice.

That's not your forte. Stick with what got you to the dance.

Temporary lapse in judgement.
Title: Re: Nationals lineup.
Post by: bullred on March 11, 2019, 12:57:42 AM
Sometimes the truth is hard to accept.  Spent years drilling for guys who were looking for a miracle in a ball.  Most did not want to accept they were deficient in the skills necessary to be a winner.  Most of you guys are doomed to be the pro shop's wet dream.
Title: Re: Nationals lineup.
Post by: milorafferty on March 11, 2019, 02:25:48 AM
Pro-shop owners(current and former) sure talk a lot of shit about their customers. This attitude is obvious to those customers in case you didn't know.
Title: Re: Nationals lineup.
Post by: Steven on March 11, 2019, 11:51:51 AM
Sometimes the truth is hard to accept.  Spent years drilling for guys who were looking for a miracle in a ball.  Most did not want to accept they were deficient in the skills necessary to be a winner.  Most of you guys are doomed to be the pro shop's wet dream.

Yes, the truth can be difficult.....


Unfortunately, there are too many old time drillers who still live their glory days of the past. They live in a fantasy world of Rubber and Urethane, and never understood why even with great bowler skill, reactive resin changed all the rules. You can see the bitterness of not understanding why time has passed them by.
 
Try taking just one ball to Nationals or any PBA event and show how you'll dominate with nothing more than your superior skill set. I'd buy a ticket to watch that disaster.
Title: Re: Nationals lineup.
Post by: Jesse James on March 11, 2019, 12:59:29 PM
Sometimes the truth is hard to accept.  Spent years drilling for guys who were looking for a miracle in a ball.  Most did not want to accept they were deficient in the skills necessary to be a winner.  Most of you guys are doomed to be the pro shop's wet dream.

Wow! I'm not sure why you chose to pick on Northface!! I was in Vegas for one of the Nationals events gone past, and watched this dude bowl! I didn't realize who it was at the time, but after I got home, got on Ball Reviews and talked about my experiences at South Point....I put two and two together and realized that the guy I was admiring was HIM!! That Dude can bowl!! You are clearly barking up the wrong tree!! If you were referring to the original poster......then I humbly apologize for my comments!
Title: Re: Nationals lineup.
Post by: Average Joe Reviews on March 12, 2019, 08:27:44 PM
Having a good solid physical game, teamed with a strong mental game to adjust to lane conditions will replace most of your balls.   If you don't have the skills, all the balls you can drill won't get you there.  All the money you have in balls could have gone a long way in coaching.   Ball and drills won't replace good instruction and proper practise.   I used to love guys like you when I was in the business.

Fortunately for the bowling community you are not in the business anymore.  :)
Title: Re: Nationals lineup.
Post by: Geigs on March 12, 2019, 09:40:58 PM
Ouch! those are some harsh words bullred. Coop, crux prime @2000, idol@2000. Pba60@ 4000 and Spare ball. If you have room for 5, hyroad nano. I like smooth surfaces, no polish. Bring a fresh 1000 grit abralon pad in case you need more surface.
Title: Re: Nationals lineup.
Post by: BowlingForDonuts on March 12, 2019, 10:05:41 PM
Sometimes the truth is hard to accept.  Spent years drilling for guys who were looking for a miracle in a ball.  Most did not want to accept they were deficient in the skills necessary to be a winner.  Most of you guys are doomed to be the pro shop's wet dream.

Yes, the truth can be difficult.....


Unfortunately, there are too many old time drillers who still live their glory days of the past. They live in a fantasy world of Rubber and Urethane, and never understood why even with great bowler skill, reactive resin changed all the rules. You can see the bitterness of not understanding why time has passed them by.
 
Try taking just one ball to Nationals or any PBA event and show how you'll dominate with nothing more than your superior skill set. I'd buy a ticket to watch that disaster.

Bah all you need is a OG LT-48 the older gentleman yelled at the clouds.
Title: Re: Nationals lineup.
Post by: Pinbuster on March 13, 2019, 05:52:30 AM
RotoGrip -  Uproar
Storm     - T-Road Pearl (scuffed with green scotchbrite pad)
Columbia - Blue Dot
Ebonite   -  Total NV
Title: Re: Nationals lineup.
Post by: jumba98 on March 17, 2019, 12:40:26 AM
Hammer Statement Solid
AMF Pure Adrenaline
White Hot Badger
AMF Nitehawk Stealth
Hammer b/w urethane
Title: Re: Nationals lineup.
Post by: Remmah on March 17, 2019, 09:53:36 AM
Code X !Q Tour Original Hyroad Fever Piitch
Title: Re: Nationals lineup.
Post by: Forza76 on April 02, 2019, 06:36:22 AM
My pending lineup:

Jackal Rising
Jackal Ghost
Forge
Forza GT
Octane Carbon

Trying to get possibly a Hydra or Combat Tank in place of the Carbon since team event is probably 38-39ft. and last year the lanes transitioned to where my Carbon was just too strong in the friction.
Title: Re: Nationals lineup.
Post by: mrwizerd on April 02, 2019, 08:59:33 AM
My current lineup with surfaces:

Crux Prime (1000 or 500...still deciding)
Physix at 1000
Phaze 2 at 1000
IQ Tour Solid at 2000
Pitch Black at whatever is currently on it

If you read my earlier thread, I am not expecting much organized lane breakdown hence the stronger surfaces.  My Pitch Black is for corner pin spares, e.g. 6 & 10's, and a last ditch effort if I am completely lost...a very likely scenario.
Title: Re: Nationals lineup.
Post by: BeerLeague on April 02, 2019, 09:18:53 AM
This game has become to dependent on equipment.  You could have the best game in the world but you can never outbowl bad ball reaction. 

For nationals, take 3 balls you trust, plus a spare ball if you need one and bring various abralon pads and polishes.  You will not be hooking the ball coast to coast and the name of the game will be controlling the midlane.  Bring a big solid, a medium solid and a pearl you can work the surface on.  Assym vs sym cores .... who cares.  You are going to play defense quite a bit until the shot opens up.  If you are bowling with a bunch of recreational house bowlers  who refuse to play the shot as it is intended, it could be a long day.
Title: Re: Nationals lineup.
Post by: spmcgivern on April 02, 2019, 11:28:15 AM
This game has become to dependent on equipment.  You could have the best game in the world but you can never outbowl bad ball reaction. 

One could argue that to have the best game in the world you must know how to prevent bad ball reaction.  Whether that is changes in physical release, knowing which zone to play, or know which ball to throw.

There are numerous bowlers with great physical games, but until they gain experience on multiple patterns (or at least the national's pattern) they will be guessing on what to do.  They may get lucky but the more experience the better chance at a good result.
Title: Re: Nationals lineup.
Post by: storm making it rain on April 02, 2019, 11:46:27 AM
Still a while out (end of May I'm going) and will wait to get some feedback from some people that go earlier but:

Statement Solid
Triton Elite
Pink Widow
Rhodman Pearl
Destiny Solid
Urethane Spare Ball
Title: Re: Nationals lineup.
Post by: Good Times Good Times on April 02, 2019, 12:59:30 PM
Phaze II @ 1000 or 2000
IQ Tour Solid @ 2000
Idol Pearl @ 4000
Plastic

And then I have a decision to make between the Hyper Cell Fused at @ 2000 for an Asym look OR an OG HyRoad @ 4000..........

That's a super hard decision for me.....