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bowl400

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New Classified All Events Leader
« on: June 29, 2010, 12:13:23 PM »
161 Sport average after averaging deuce the previous two years, hmmmmm....
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dogman666

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Re: New Classified All Events Leader
« Reply #31 on: July 06, 2010, 11:32:20 AM »
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Lifetime Averages

pretty basic especially with USBC sanctioned leagues
 


Interesting concept but guys like me and older would be factoring in averages in the 160-170 range to go along with the 200's as equipment became stronger.  Essentially it would give me an advantage over say a 22 year old who has only seen strong equipment.
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Jorge300

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Re: New Classified All Events Leader
« Reply #32 on: July 06, 2010, 11:33:51 AM »
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two words

Lifetime Averages

pretty basic especially with USBC sanctioned leagues



And I have 3 words for you in return: Uncertified Sports Leagues.

Our summer league is a great example. For the last 4 years we have bowled on PBA, Kegel Sport, USBC Open, or other USBC tournament patterns. We have not certified as a sports league, so no one has to pay for the additional membership.  Now we are a Summer League, so no real issues. But there are winter leagues out there doing the same thing. So we have Bowler A, joins one of these leagues and brings down their average, it won't take too long to get a lifetime average under 180. Plus, many more tournaments are deciding to go unsanctioned so the scores aren't reported to the USBC. This won't catch the people who want to cheat the system.

I agree with Mr. Thomas, use their USBC lifetime average and cash made. Look back at their 1099's to see how much they made in brackets, and what is their lifetime average at the Open. If someone wants to through away money for many years (for both them and their team) then so be it. And the reason I say to look at 1099's is to catch the guy who rolls 650 in team, cashed well in brackets, then throws 300 in Singles (where he isn't hurting anyone) to keep his average down.

I still see no reason to DQ this man, as of now.
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Re: New Classified All Events Leader
« Reply #33 on: July 06, 2010, 11:53:46 AM »
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two words

Lifetime Averages

pretty basic especially with USBC sanctioned leagues



And I have 3 words for you in return: Uncertified Sports Leagues.

Our summer league is a great example. For the last 4 years we have bowled on PBA, Kegel Sport, USBC Open, or other USBC tournament patterns. We have not certified as a sports league, so no one has to pay for the additional membership.  Now we are a Summer League, so no real issues. But there are winter leagues out there doing the same thing. So we have Bowler A, joins one of these leagues and brings down their average, it won't take too long to get a lifetime average under 180. Plus, many more tournaments are deciding to go unsanctioned so the scores aren't reported to the USBC. This won't catch the people who want to cheat the system.

I agree with Mr. Thomas, use their USBC lifetime average and cash made. Look back at their 1099's to see how much they made in brackets, and what is their lifetime average at the Open. If someone wants to through away money for many years (for both them and their team) then so be it. And the reason I say to look at 1099's is to catch the guy who rolls 650 in team, cashed well in brackets, then throws 300 in Singles (where he isn't hurting anyone) to keep his average down.

I still see no reason to DQ this man, as of now.
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Our house does the same on all of the competitive leagues, because why pay a ridiculous sport fee?