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Jorge300

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Pattern Release broadcast
« on: February 26, 2015, 05:27:11 PM »
Has anyone seen any information on this? The tournament is starting up pretty soon and I haven't seen anything advertised about this as of yet. Thanks.
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Re: Pattern Release broadcast
« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2015, 03:13:58 PM »
And you would still get beat even if you practiced on the pattern.  The guys that are at the top every year are just plain better bowlers.

The difference would be less. Which is why they shouldn't release the pattern.  Let the greats be great reading the condition as they see it not practicing on it months in advance.
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Re: Pattern Release broadcast
« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2015, 03:20:21 PM »
If they do not release the pattern you will have people crying that special teams get the pattern or people close to HQ get the pattern. If you release it, it stops all that talk. If you want to practice on the pattern bowl later. Everyone has the ability to pick the dates they bowl.

I do agree that the pattern should be released earlier but this is how they are doing it now and if someone wants to practice on the pattern either go later in the year or do the team practice session they are hosting on site.
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Re: Pattern Release broadcast
« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2015, 10:41:10 PM »
For what it's worth the pattern should be released to everyone. If the pattern isn't released there always will be a handful that knows and therefore have an advantage.

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Re: Pattern Release broadcast
« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2015, 02:52:23 AM »
it's 3/4 and the tourney starts 3/7. the pattern will be released in "early march" (still) according to the lane condition link. i guess that's any time before 3/15.........

maybe they are trying to scratch together enough money for conditioner. WD40 and a mop will work just fine, guys

on another note, the patterns are usually very similar and while i can read and understand the nuances, there's still probably only about 10% of the bowlers that care

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Re: Pattern Release broadcast
« Reply #20 on: March 04, 2015, 08:13:06 AM »
I will go back to my original guesstimate. Flat oil, break point around 10 at the tracer with no bump on the gutter unless you are left handed.

Go ahead and list that for the next several tournaments.
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Re: Pattern Release broadcast
« Reply #21 on: March 04, 2015, 08:55:13 AM »
I will go back to my original guesstimate. Flat oil, break point around 10 at the tracer with no bump on the gutter unless you are left handed.

Go ahead and list that for the next several tournaments.

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I wonder if the incremental changes they make each year are offset by the incremental differences in topography from the tournament location and any house that puts out the shot.

If you can practice on any of the previous tournament's shots, or better yet, all of them, then you should be plenty prepared for the earlier dates.  Once the shot is released, then practice on it up until your scheduled date.

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Re: Pattern Release broadcast
« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2015, 09:00:08 AM »
I will go back to my original guesstimate. Flat oil, break point around 10 at the tracer with no bump on the gutter unless you are left handed.

Go ahead and list that for the next several tournaments.

You say that...but I am right handed and I shot 256 the last game of singles playing straight up 2-3. You can't swing it to there, but there are many times there has been a shot outside over the years.
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Re: Pattern Release broadcast
« Reply #23 on: March 04, 2015, 09:10:54 AM »
You had 2-3, that is cute.

The lefties I watched and bowled with had 7 to the gutter and more room then anything I had seen by any right handers. It is consistent every year if you watch some of the different big name groups with any lefties.
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Re: Pattern Release broadcast
« Reply #24 on: March 04, 2015, 09:37:32 AM »
You had 2-3, that is cute.

The lefties I watched and bowled with had 7 to the gutter and more room then anything I had seen by any right handers. It is consistent every year if you watch some of the different big name groups with any lefties.

Part of the reason theres an all power house left-handed team going this year.
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Re: Pattern Release broadcast
« Reply #25 on: March 04, 2015, 09:44:31 AM »
I will go back to my original guesstimate. Flat oil, break point around 10 at the tracer with no bump on the gutter unless you are left handed.

Go ahead and list that for the next several tournaments.

You say that...but I am right handed and I shot 256 the last game of singles playing straight up 2-3. You can't swing it to there, but there are many times there has been a shot outside over the years.

So did I, playing 23 at the arrows to 10 at the breakpoint. 

Moral of the story:  they will be flater oil, multiple angles patterns, ball selection will be volume dependent. 
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Re: Pattern Release broadcast
« Reply #26 on: March 04, 2015, 10:40:35 AM »
You had 2-3, that is cute.

The lefties I watched and bowled with had 7 to the gutter and more room then anything I had seen by any right handers. It is consistent every year if you watch some of the different big name groups with any lefties.

Dude, chill out a little. I wasn't getting a right vs left thing, but obviously you have some deep-seeded issues you need to work out on your own. My point was you were wrong. There is a shot outside and there has been many times in the past, even on the right side of the lane. Take your hatred of lefties to your own thread.
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Re: Pattern Release broadcast
« Reply #27 on: March 04, 2015, 12:37:15 PM »
There always a shot out side just don't swing it. Ask Eugene McCune! I'm sure you can play that outside line but gotta be precise or lots of ten pin will be on it's way due to the angle.

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Re: Pattern Release broadcast
« Reply #28 on: March 04, 2015, 12:54:24 PM »
This is a good topic, as it is drawing in the pitting of "is this line 'available'?" VERSUS "does this line give me the largest room for error?".

This is the crux (no pun intended but still lol) of the concept of reading the lanes.  This is what those that rise to the top pair with God given talent.
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Re: Pattern Release broadcast
« Reply #29 on: March 04, 2015, 12:58:32 PM »
You had 2-3, that is cute.

The lefties I watched and bowled with had 7 to the gutter and more room then anything I had seen by any right handers. It is consistent every year if you watch some of the different big name groups with any lefties.

Dude, chill out a little. I wasn't getting a right vs left thing, but obviously you have some deep-seeded issues you need to work out on your own. My point was you were wrong. There is a shot outside and there has been many times in the past, even on the right side of the lane. Take your hatred of lefties to your own thread.

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Re: Pattern Release broadcast
« Reply #30 on: March 04, 2015, 01:33:22 PM »
You have to remember this is a non-reno year. So the lanes are brand new and (from bowling on new lanes before in this tournament) seem to play tighter and not give as much room. (The track in RENO is beat up... at least on the right side.)

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