So we bowled this past weekend and had the 11:30 pm doubles and singles shift. We come out from the squad room and we are on the last 3 pairs being used, 43-48, they are fresh. But just 5 pairs to our left there are three empty pairs that were bowled on the prior team shift, why would they not use those and put bowlers on the fresh? Cleary about everyone wants to bowl on a little of the burn. I ask the gentleman from our squad room and his answer was "I really don't know."" Maybe it would have caused some confusion to move your names to the other pairs." Confusion, why weren't they being used to begin with? Any ideas from anyone?

Sure seems to me that the majority of the scores always seem to be higher in the doubles and singles events. Which would sure lead me to believe that once they have been broken down a little that it seems to get better. Always has for me. Maybe I'm in the minority. Still back to my original question, why would they leave 3 empty pairs in the middle of the house that had been used in the team squad empty and use 3 fresh pairs instead? 1 of those pairs had a loaded team on it. Maybe didn't want someone to use that pair because of a different condition?

Yes they are assigned. They had our dates wrong when we checked in. Had us bowling on sun and mon and not sat and sun. Their mistake. Still doesnt answer why those 3 pairs set empty in the middle of a squad. Those were the only 3 not being used. Im sure usbc spent countless dollars and manpower to come up with a reason not to use those lanes.

I would rather bowl on what the rest of the shift is bowling on, that seems pretty reasonable to me. Bowling on a pair that had lets say a classified team on it is a chance you take. But bowling on fresh because they decided to not use certain pairs for whatever reason just doesnt make alot of sense. I've followed pairs that had plastics going down it, still better than the fresh. Why is it that I'm the only one who thinks it seems odd that they had those team pairs sitting empty. Never seen it before at Nationals, and I've gone for 14yrs straight.

i can't answer as to why those pairs were vacant, but i agree with you 100% with you wanting to bowl on "broken down" lane conditions. otherwise everybody would be looking for 7a.m. doubles. i'd bet a lot of money that is the least popular squad, not mainly because of the time. furthermore, how many eagles have you seen come out of bowlers rolling on fresh for team, then fresh for s's & d's.

when these conditions are properly worn in, they become very easy. that's when you see the spikes in scores.

look at how many times you see a sub-par peformance in the team event, then somebody whacks them the next day because they drew a good pair.

hopefully this post settles that argument.

For sure -- some day hopefully EVERY squad will be on fresh oil!

 

I would take fresh over what we had last year -- 4 Classified teams shooting 2,300 ... ended up with 9,600 team all-events. Contrast that with the year before when we had "perfect" cross of decent track players in front of us and shot 10,300.

 

And I might rather have fresh this year anyway considering what the pattern appears to be on the fresh. Most of the top level players bowl on a burn squad and so far team scores are pretty high while minors leaders are just 1,447, 814 and 2,177 -- relatively low when compared to 3,439 in team.

 

Still trying to get my arms around that contrast. Tells me managing the fresh is VERY key.

 

I'm well aware of you are at the mercy of who crosses in front of you. I"m saying I would rather take my chances with that then be put on fresh after a team squad when they leave 3 pairs empty that were bowled on in the team event. My complaint is that all of our doubles and singles squad should have been on a little burn if they would have used all the lanes that the 8:30 team shift used. Only our 3 pairs of doubles and singles were put on the fresh. The question is why not put us on the 3 pairs that they let sit empty from the previous team squad.

Now, if I read your post correctly, everyone was on the burn and that three pairs that were on the fresh were not assigned.  I think that's fair because everyone is bowling on the same burn and no has an "advantage" by being on the fresh.