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General Category => USBC Tournament => Topic started by: duvallite on May 17, 2014, 06:48:54 PM
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I'm leaving for Reno in a couple of days, and am looking for opinions on if the surfaces I currently have will work. I'm taking the following 3 balls:
Sync - pin above ring, 4000 Neat pad
Nightmare - pin beside ring, P3 hole, 4000 Neat pad
Nomad - pin beside ring, hole 6" from pin (past VAL & below ML), 2500-4000
Neat pads
My specs: RH, 14-15 mph at pins (slightly speed dominate), low tilt 10 or less,
70+ rotation, PAP 4 1/2 over & 1/4 up
My normal shot is playing straight up the boards somewhere between 5-10, with maybe a slight swing shot if needed. Will these surfaces be okay, or do I need to take the Sync or Nightmare down lower?
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assuming you are righthand, you could have the nightmare with alittle more surface
but the danger there is that if all of you have some surface, you will burn up the heads to soon.
i would stay with what you have and deal with it early on, knowing the shot will open up and come to you
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I had 2 balls @ 4000 one @ 3000 and a pearl. And i used my marvel-s @ 3000 for Team and doubles.
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Thanks. I edited my post to also show my PAP. I'm leaning toward staying with the Sync & Nightmare both at 4000 so far. Both tend to burn up a bit on our local THS playing where i like to. Of course there the oil gets burned up quickly, and I haven't had the chance to ever try them on anything like the Open shot. Sounds like a roll of the dice.
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i would go to the USBC youtube channel and watch some of the teams, they talk about surfaces a little bit
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Most people use too much surface at nationals, or on any flat pattern for that matter. There is no way to open up a fresh long pattern and create the kind of out angle that most scratch bowlers on house shots are use to. Spend your time working on squaring up while still keeping your arm swing loose. I don't have much hand, and could play up 8-10 board with a weak pearl ball. It worked and carried very well because I have a low axis rotation. Lower axis rotation ( more end over end roll ) is great on tournament patterns because it does not over react to the dry, or skate too much through the heads.
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I would leave them where you have them. Unless you're going to try to play the gutter (which I wouldn't suggest) you should be fine playing in the 7-10 area. There's plenty of hook out there this year.
I would also suggest you bowl the BJ tourney before bowling in the actual Open. Although I felt like the BJ really didn't play that close to the stadium lanes, it will at least give you a good idea of what's going on.
We put out the team pattern at home before going and even though we have AMF Hpl lanes and a Kustodian machine, it played very similar to the team event in Reno. The minors pattern is definately the more difficult of the two.
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I just came back. You will need more surface. 2000 or even 1000. Even at that, your balls will get lane shine pretty fast.
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I wouldn't go too crazy on surface for what you're going to throw . . that being said, I might take a sponge to do a little grooving, a LITTLE mind you. The shot holds up extremely well, but no matter what, trying to create angle is a really bad idea. On the fresh the ball stays in the skid phase way too long. If you burn a track, then you start getting TOO early. Just groove a little shot, stick with something at 3k or 4k, and keep your angles tight. It plays wet, but that also means you've got a LOT more push through the middle than you normally do on sport patterns.
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I'd want one ball at 360/1000 for the fresh. Probably the Nightmare.
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3000 surface will suffice for both events. I had a Mx10 and Zero at 3000 and it was plenty of surface to get down lane, read the mids, recover and hit.