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General Category => USBC Tournament => Topic started by: mrwizerd on April 09, 2016, 10:29:50 PM
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I am heading to Reno next month and have a question for surface prep for one of the balls I am taking. My arsenal will consist of: Menace at 3000, IQ Tour Solid (pin under ring) at 4000, IQ Tour Solid (pin over ring) at 4000 and a plastic ball.
The ball I am concerned with is the IQ Tour Solid (pin under ring). Should I keep the surface at 4000 or put something else on it such as 2000? My concern is with having the same surface on both IQ's and even with different layouts it not making much difference in reaction.
Thoughts?
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whatever you do, go there with the expectation that you may have to adjust the surface once practice is over.
always go to the lanes to shiny, adjust as needed
if you take something to dull and cant use it, its a boat anchor in the bag
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sorry.....no surface adjustments once balls go through inspection. They can be touched only by a dry towel.
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Early on, you will need a ball that is smoother, because the back ends are very clean and have a tendency to hook violently at the end of the pattern. Later in the shift, you can switch to a shinier ball.
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I have friends who just returned from Reno
they were allowed to adjust surface during practice
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You can adjust surfaces until practice is over.
I just sent out my stuff.
Most surface I have ever sent out in over 20 years.
Ice oil can be very slick.
Ball needs to slow down quicker either by drilling or surface prep.
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sorry.....no surface adjustments once balls go through inspection. They can be touched only by a dry towel.
not true
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I sanded a ball in the back area....no issues but then again maybe they knew how bad I was so it would not matter
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I don't think you can change the surface after the ball as been weighed in . I don't see the usbc letting bowlers changing the surface during practice because of the mess that could be made .
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According to rule #9 from the usbc tournament page. You can alter ball surfaces up until competition begins.
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Just got back tonight, you can adjust surface up until the first ball is rolled in competition just like every other tournament. They even announce this to be the case.
I will never understand why some people go online and say things they have no idea about. Who does that benefit?
Anyway, there is a ton of back end this year, I would recommend taking balls that are either weaker in drilling or overall strength. I struggled during team using strong equipment out of sheer stupidity or arrogance, used a Breeze at 1000 for doubles/singles to average 175. Not terrible for my first time and not executing properly on spares.
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I will find out in June . But in the past 27 ABC/ USBC tournaments I don't remember being able to adjust the surface during warm ups but I take stuff with different surfaces so no need to adjust mine.
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Within the last few years, the rule was changed to allow surface changes up until practice ends. After that, it's a no-go. You don't see a whole lot of changes taking place these days, but I think that's because many people are used to the old rules.
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At 38 feet, and fairly flat, the back ends are going to boom pretty good out of the gate even on ice oil. As with all flatter, medium to shorter patterns the difficulty is much more in managing the transitions than getting lined up initially.
We are playing on the team pattern in my singles league right now, and regardless of equipment anything outside of 8 board at the break point is a total teaser. You may think you have a good look in practice out there, but you wont get to the 3rd frame without a washout.
Turning to equipment, I have tried a Burgundy Hammer at 4000, an IQ tour solid at 2000, a Viral Solid in box condition, a Pitch Blue at 4000, and an old Cobalt Vibe in box condition. My best look was with the Cobalt Vibe playing between 15 and 17 at the arrows and keeping the break point inside 10 board. I also think the Viral with an earlier rolling layout would be effective if I knocked a bit more shine off the ball. I am going to try my Paradox hybrid at 4000 next week along with the Viral after adjusting the surface.
Another thing that seems to transcend equipment choice is getting good projection with decent ball speed. At 17 mph through the heads I had the slowest speed of anybody who had a decent look. Two or three guys shot pretty good last night playing similar angles to me. None were using much surface
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According to rule #9 from the usbc tournament page. You can alter ball surfaces up until competition begins.
It looks like USBC changed the rule for this year. I'm pretty sure I saw that in the past it defined competition as the start of practice. Which is weird because normally the start of competition is the first ball thrown for score(by anyone). I'm glad they changed the rule to be in line with the USBC league rule book.
http://usbcongress.http.internapcdn.net/usbcongress/bowl/tournaments/pdfs/usbcopenchamp/2016/OC2016Rules.pdf
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I am also on these patterns in my league. Best these leagues will do for you is to get you to sharpen your fundamentals, grip pressure, targeting, etc
No way these league conditions can predict where you should play or even the correct equipment
Even the practice lanes and BJ tournament in Reno are different than the event patterns
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You never go to nationals expecting to line up or use equipment that might have worked on the tournament pattern at home. However, you can still tell a lot. Length of oil and outside volume really tell a lot. For example, 7 loads 2 to 2 pretty much guarantees that a total ob develops outside even though 38 feet often lets you play outside.
In the end it is all about transitions on flat patterns. I have never had trouble finding a place to play out of the gate. It is about how quick the carrydown develops, and which way to move when it does
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watch the latest livestream from yesterday
those guys pretty much showed what a good plan can do
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jfj9CIIFiv8
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just got back
they are tough
I would go see Bob or Dan in the EBI booth, they know what is working best
cheap cost to get some knowledge and adjust surfaces
I used a legion solid in team at 1000 and it was pretty good
In S/D, I could have used something stronger which I had left at home
Swerve or even paradox
the lanes are slick as heck, back ends really aren't as snappy as I thought they would be and its flat out a tough shot, very little miss room no matter where you play them