Post by: fishbowler on February 16, 2009, 06:18:12 AM
thanks doug
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Post by: J_w73 on February 16, 2009, 04:38:38 PM
There is another section that gives you I think the specs to enter into the machine.. depends on the machine though.
http://www.bowl.com/sportbowling/pbaLaneConditions-Download.aspx
http://www.bowl.com/sportbowling/lanemachine_index.aspx
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Post by: 230-n-up-or-bust on February 16, 2009, 04:44:06 PM
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Post by: justdale on February 16, 2009, 04:48:12 PM
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Post by: SpareK on February 16, 2009, 04:48:40 PM
A/>A
Post by: fishbowler on February 16, 2009, 05:51:49 PM
can anyone provide last years usbc national pattern? can you send me the file?
send to dstanek57@yahoo.com
thanks doug
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Post by: T_Bone on February 17, 2009, 04:06:42 AM
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Post by: Belgarion on February 17, 2009, 05:39:57 AM
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Why do you think the USBC is waiting so long to release the pattern? The bowlers that get to go to Vegas in the later stages of the event get to practice all they want on the pattern while the bowlers in the first week pretty much have to guess. Just doesnt seem fair.
They wait mostly because they are still testing it (as far as I understand). With the lanes being brand new, and then the masters last week, it is difficult to design a shot until you know what it is going do with people out there. I believe they come up with a general idea, and tweak it the week before the tournament.
I am not a big believer in it giving you a large advantage if you bowl on it ahead of time. Oil, conditioner, lane surface, age, and having a team of 130s straight bowlers on your pair are all factors that you cannot reproduce completely outside of the tournament itself.
I think any shot that forces you to be accurate is a good practice point. Learning to control your break point from different angles on tight shots will help you just as much as being on the actual shot
Post by: riggs on February 17, 2009, 06:45:05 AM
The last few years the pattern has been posted the Wednesday or Thursday before the Saturday start day.
Post by: Belgarion on February 19, 2009, 12:23:36 PM
http://www.bowl.com/Downloads/pdf/2009%20USBC_open_championships_lane_condition.pdf
Post by: J_w73 on February 19, 2009, 12:34:24 PM
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Post by: neb5482 on February 19, 2009, 12:51:15 PM
Post by: WSUstroker on February 19, 2009, 01:05:07 PM
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What is the lane surface at nationals?
I'm pretty sure it's Brunswick ProAnvil Lane.
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Post by: KDawg77 on February 19, 2009, 01:15:57 PM
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Post by: rymacatthedisco on February 19, 2009, 01:28:59 PM
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Post by: Platinum Bowler on February 19, 2009, 09:17:06 PM
quote:I can't read graphs for crap. But if this is true, then wow..... Just wow...
few more loads it looks like, and more oil in the middle of the lane which is an awesome thing...
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Post by: DanH78 on February 19, 2009, 10:08:15 PM
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I can't read graphs for crap. But if this is true, then wow..... Just wow...
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The easiest place to see that is that last year total units were 24ml, this year it's 26ml. Also the total boards crossed is higher
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Post by: Stormkid84 on February 20, 2009, 07:59:20 AM
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Post by: rymacatthedisco on February 20, 2009, 10:21:36 AM
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Post by: backswing_aplenty on February 20, 2009, 11:19:19 PM
There will still be that fake shot on the gutter that 5% of the bowling world will be able to play. And the rest of us will be inside not getting it outside of 10.
Strong covers and inside lines FTW!
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Post by: DanH78 on February 21, 2009, 01:03:15 AM
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There's more overall in the pattern, not necessarily in the middle. You miss in it will still go high, you miss out it will stay out. I don't understand why USBC went with more volume. Do we need to sell more sponges? Was there not enough sales at the booths the last few years? Do they only want power players to score well?
There will still be that fake shot on the gutter that 5% of the bowling world will be able to play. And the rest of us will be inside not getting it outside of 10.
Strong covers and inside lines FTW!
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Post by: riggs on February 21, 2009, 05:42:14 AM
For those wanting to know how to attack the pattern, the Jasnau session is your best bet, IMHO:
http://77square.com/sweat/blog/frame11/entry_439912
Post by: rymacatthedisco on February 21, 2009, 09:08:05 AM
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Post by: Bogeyman on February 21, 2009, 01:35:06 PM
1. The lane surface is Brunswick Pro Lane. More friction than ProAnvil. Maybe someone who has bowled more on this surface may be able to give more feed back.
2. New balls seem to pick up more and more oil off the lane each year so more oil up front to help the ball get thru the heads longer.
3. Normal year to year adjustment to the pattern trying to make improvements to make it challenging but playable for as many as possible. Should play similar to most Nationals since the same group has set the pattern up for the last few years.
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Post by: backswing_aplenty on February 21, 2009, 08:28:01 PM
More oil means higher revs or slower speeds will have a better look. Teams can break them down correctly and still only the select few will be able to bring it back from no man's land.
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Post by: Bigmike on February 22, 2009, 09:12:58 PM
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From what I heard the reason for the added volume this year is because
1. The lane surface is Brunswick Pro Lane. More friction than ProAnvil. Maybe someone who has bowled more on this surface may be able to give more feed back.
The center here in C-Bus where they are hosting the PBA event in two weeks has the Pro Lane surface. When they were installing it, the owner was telling me more about it. The first panel or heads, is hard like normal pro-anvilane. the second panel is a little softer and then the next panel even more softer with the last panels being there softest. The concept is to make synthetics play like wood with the durability of synthethics. When they "wall" them up at this place, they get stoopid easy. They can be really challenging when he puts a flatter pattern down.
These volumes look like the softer speed guys will have a definite good look as the high rev guys usually throw quite a bit harder to control there downlane motion on normal conditions.
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