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Title: What are the chances?
Post by: northface28 on March 05, 2020, 08:18:17 PM
Of USBC’s being cancelled because of coronavirus. I have a major problem spending $800 to go to that shit hole Reno, NV. I can go to international destinations for a few hundred more.
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: ignitebowling on March 05, 2020, 09:49:41 PM
12,000-60,000 people of all ages die in the US from the flu every year.  That and heart disease is going to be a bigger risk to most bowlers then the cornavirus will be world wide.

Canceling is the trendy thing these corporations are jumping on.  So nationals should be safe.
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: TWOHAND834 on March 06, 2020, 07:12:02 AM
12,000-60,000 people of all ages die in the US from the flu every year.  That and heart disease is going to be a bigger risk to most bowlers then the cornavirus will be world wide.

Canceling is the trendy thing these corporations are jumping on.  So nationals should be safe.

Agreed!  President Trump has even put it into perspective in regards to the number of people who die every year from the common flu.  I turn 47 next month and I have had the flu once since I was a teenager and the only symptoms I had were a low fever and my body ached. 

You have more control than you think in whether or not you get the virus.  Keep some hand sanitizer handy and exercise proper hygiene.  Most of the people who have gotten the virus are individuals (mainly in their 50s and older) who have other health issues and weak immune systems.  Most of the deaths in Washington State are from a nursing care home.

I would think that the USBC would take precautions at the tournament site such as keeping the facility clean and having hand sanitizer stations scattered around the Stadium, or I would hope so anyway.   
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: Bowler19525 on March 06, 2020, 07:28:36 AM
I think what is causing the excessive panic is the mortality rate of the coronavirus compared to influenza.  3.9% for coronavirus vs. approximately 0.14% for the flu.  If you had the same number of people contract coronavirus as do the flu, the resulting deaths would be exponentially higher than what is seen with influenza.  Plus, there is a vaccine for the flu which helps to keep the mortality rate down.  We are a year or two away from a vaccine for coronavirus, so we have to do our best to keep it at bay until a vaccine is developed, manufactured, and distributed.

I agree the overall panic is a bit much, but I also understand why people are panicking.
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: Good Times Good Times on March 06, 2020, 10:42:16 AM
Stay away from the late night hookers out there boys.  And if you must indulge, strap up appropriately (including mask if needed).
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: SpinBowler300 on March 06, 2020, 10:55:12 AM
I'm not changing one thing in my life due to this virus. It's way over blown. The media is selling this and making money from it. That's the only reason it's as big as it is.

Remember how everyone thought they were going to die in a terrorist attack after 9/11? It's the same with this. You still have better chance of dying from a lightening strike or a car accident than either of those two.
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: sportcoupe on March 06, 2020, 11:27:06 AM
You kids do understand that "news" media companies are for profit, right?  If there is something that can be sensationalized enough to force a person to view the advertisement attached to this "news", the media companies are doing their job for their investors. 

Pandemic = $$$$$
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: BowlingForDonuts on March 06, 2020, 11:49:57 AM
Yes this is like 9/11 including the economic hit that is coming whether you panic or not.   My industry is usually the first to see a recession and having been through three of them now the red flags are flashing big time (jobs # today is a lagging indicator). People are a herd animal and once the herd starts stampeding look out.
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: northface28 on March 06, 2020, 12:02:35 PM
Stay away from the late night hookers out there boys.  And if you must indulge, strap up appropriately (including mask if needed).

This was the answer I was looking for. This confirms I’m not going if I can’t party with whores.
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: lilpossum1 on March 06, 2020, 12:16:20 PM
Like everyone else has said: wash your hands and don’t pick your freaking nose. The areas where this is spreading are the places with lower quality healthcare systems and denser populations where it is more apt to spread quickly. And a place right outside a biological testing facility, but that is a different subject all together. But here in the US, Canada, and other very modern countries, we don’t have much to worry about as long as we use common sense and personal hygiene
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: northface28 on March 06, 2020, 12:46:45 PM
Like everyone else has said: wash your hands and don’t pick your freaking nose. The areas where this is spreading are the places with lower quality healthcare systems and denser populations where it is more apt to spread quickly. And a place right outside a biological testing facility, but that is a different subject all together. But here in the US, Canada, and other very modern countries, we don’t have much to worry about as long as we use common sense and personal hygiene

Common sense and personal hygiene. Not exactly the strongest attributes for Americans.
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: northface28 on March 06, 2020, 12:48:45 PM
Looks like someone in Reno has tested positive and they have started to close schools.
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: BallReviews-Removed0385 on March 06, 2020, 01:18:17 PM

USBC wants your money, the hotels want your money, the 67 year old hookers want your money...   Let the tournament begin!!
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: bradl on March 06, 2020, 05:36:50 PM

USBC wants your money, the hotels want your money, the 67 year old hookers want your money...   Let the tournament begin!!

Okay, I absolutely have to draw the line here.

The 67 year old hookers are in Carson City. The 55 year old hookers are in Reno.  :P

BL.
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: BallReviews-Removed0385 on March 06, 2020, 06:54:34 PM

Thanks for the clarification.  They may be 55, but they look like 67.  There's also the waitress who calls you "Hon". 8)
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: ignitebowling on March 06, 2020, 10:31:08 PM
Watching the news the virus was in Washington state 6 weeks before they knew it was there.  Then it followed with how the mortality rate can't factor the number of people who've had it and never knew or had been tested.

Mainly affects elderly,  and those, with breathing issues. 


People may experience:
runny nose
sore throat
cough
fever
difficulty breathing (severe cases)
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: lilpossum1 on March 07, 2020, 12:03:24 AM
Like everyone else has said: wash your hands and don’t pick your freaking nose. The areas where this is spreading are the places with lower quality healthcare systems and denser populations where it is more apt to spread quickly. And a place right outside a biological testing facility, but that is a different subject all together. But here in the US, Canada, and other very modern countries, we don’t have much to worry about as long as we use common sense and personal hygiene


Common sense and personal hygiene. Not exactly the strongest attributes for Americans.
Point taken lol. While I agree mostly, there is a still a thing called herd immunity which basically says that if enough people are vaccinated against a disease, it will protect a few that are unable to be vaccinated. While I don’t want to star the whole anti vax argument, the same principle applies here. We have a higher population here that will follow the personal hygiene rules than other countries so it is less likely to run rampant here, or be as severe. I could see it going apes#*t in lower income neighborhoods if it enters one though for those very reasons
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: Bavant on March 07, 2020, 02:48:55 AM
I'm not changing one thing in my life due to this virus. It's way over blown. The media is selling this and making money from it. That's the only reason it's as big as it is.

Remember how everyone thought they were going to die in a terrorist attack after 9/11? It's the same with this. You still have better chance of dying from a lightening strike or a car accident than either of those two.

I work in the emergency room of a medical facility and in no way do we consider this an over blown crisis. Don't let whatever negative feelings you may have about the media cause you to make unsafe decisions...the outcome is uncertain but this threat is 100% real.
 
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: morpheus on March 07, 2020, 08:40:50 AM
I'm not changing one thing in my life due to this virus. It's way over blown. The media is selling this and making money from it. That's the only reason it's as big as it is.

Remember how everyone thought they were going to die in a terrorist attack after 9/11? It's the same with this. You still have better chance of dying from a lightening strike or a car accident than either of those two.

I work in the emergency room of a medical facility and in no way do we consider this an over blown crisis. Don't let whatever negative feelings you may have about the media cause you to make unsafe decisions...the outcome is uncertain but the threat is 100% real.
 
Don’t argue with the “fake news” crowd...let natural selection take its course.
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: Bavant on March 07, 2020, 10:21:29 AM
I'm not changing one thing in my life due to this virus. It's way over blown. The media is selling this and making money from it. That's the only reason it's as big as it is.

Remember how everyone thought they were going to die in a terrorist attack after 9/11? It's the same with this. You still have better chance of dying from a lightening strike or a car accident than either of those two.

I work in the emergency room of a medical facility and in no way do we consider this an over blown crisis. Don't let whatever negative feelings you may have about the media cause you to make unsafe decisions...the outcome is uncertain but the threat is 100% real.
 
Don’t argue with the “fake news” crowd...let natural selection take its course.

Unlike a lightening strike or a car accident their decision(s) can endanger others.
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: morpheus on March 07, 2020, 11:18:11 AM
I'm not changing one thing in my life due to this virus. It's way over blown. The media is selling this and making money from it. That's the only reason it's as big as it is.

Remember how everyone thought they were going to die in a terrorist attack after 9/11? It's the same with this. You still have better chance of dying from a lightening strike or a car accident than either of those two.

I work in the emergency room of a medical facility and in no way do we consider this an over blown crisis. Don't let whatever negative feelings you may have about the media cause you to make unsafe decisions...the outcome is uncertain but the threat is 100% real.
 
Don’t argue with the “fake news” crowd...let natural selection take its course.

Unlike a lightening strike or a car accident their decision(s) can endanger others.

Now that everyone is entitled to their own facts, you’re wasting your time...you can’t fix stupid
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: Impending Doom on March 07, 2020, 11:49:25 AM
Whew, at least I have another reason to not go. Not being practiced isn't my reason, I don't wanna die!!

Where's next year at again??
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: MI 2 AZ on March 07, 2020, 03:29:32 PM
This is one tough virus.  It can apparently affect buildings too.

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A hotel in China that was being used to quarantine people with coronavirus has collapsed, the BBC reports. Officials say roughly 35 people have been rescued from the rubble, leaving as many stuck inside. Tweeted video footage shows rescue workers laboring amid dust and dim lighting to find more people. USA Today notes that no reason was given for the collapse of the Xinjia Express Hotel in Quanzhou, which occurred just after 7pm local time. A man who lives across the street says he was having dinner when he heard what sounded like an explosion, and ran to the balcony to see the whole building crumble.

One woman says her relatives, including a sister, were under quarantine at the Xinjia Express. "I can't contact them, they're not answering their phones," she said. "I'm under quarantine too [at another hotel] and I'm very worried, I don't know what to do. They were healthy, they took their temperatures every day, and the tests showed that everything was normal." City officials had converted the hotel's 80 rooms to a quarantine facility after the new virus cropped up in December. Quanzhou is in the province of Fujian, which had 296 coronavirus cases as of Friday. Some 101,000 people are said to have contracted the virus worldwide.





Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: milorafferty on March 11, 2020, 09:21:21 AM
How is it that USBC has not made an announcement one way or the other? The Open starts in 10 days, yet not a single word from Murphy. Professional sports teams are playing to empty arenas/stadiums, but Chad is too busy to issue some kind of release?

Way to prove what a clueless asshole you are chad.

Honestly, I think this is being hyped by the media into more than it really is, but USBC needs to be out in front publicly about it.
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: mwl001 on March 11, 2020, 09:43:56 AM
We chatted about this at league last night... my opinion was can the USBC afford NOT to have this tournament?!?  I think the answer to that is no.  I guess we'll see.
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: TWOHAND834 on March 11, 2020, 10:25:55 AM
Yesterday I saw on TV where the average age for those that have died from this is 80 years old.  The medical experts here in Tampa are saying most everyone that does get this will experience nothing more than that of a common cold IF you have a strong immune system. 

To Milos point.  The media is way over-hyping this.  When Ebola and Swine Flu hit during Obama's term; way more people died from those than Corona and yet Corona is getting way more publicity than either Ebola and Swine Flu.  PLUS......it took dumbass 6 months to do anything about it.  Trump starting making changes within 3 weeks.  HUGE difference.  So here in the US, it isnt spreading at nearly the rate of China and other countries.

I do agree that Chad needs to say something and not pretend like this virus isnt an issue.  Let's face it.  There is always going to be that one idiot that has it and shows up and before you know it; Reno will be all over the news. 
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: bowl868 on March 11, 2020, 10:37:58 AM
Considering how the USBC operates... I'm guessing it will be held unless Reno gets locked down.  Here is how the USBC is handling the Intercolliegiate Singles and Team sectionals this weekend which my son is participating in:

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USBC is continuing to monitor the coronavirus situation and is relying on the direction of expert public health officials. At this time, all our events and schedules remain including this week’s Intercollegiate Singles and Team Sectionals.

 

Neither the NCAA COVID-19 advisory panel, made up of leading public health and infectious disease experts in America, nor the CDC or local health officials have advised against holding sporting events. In the event circumstances change, we will make decisions accordingly. USBC also is receiving athlete safety updates from the U.S. Olympic and Paralympic Committee (USOPC).

 

USBC Collegiate member schools and athletes also should consult with their own campus health leadership and follow any school-specific recommendation. USBC respects that decisions and policy related to travel and event participation may be different for each school and individual athlete. USBC will refund entry fees for any school or athlete who chooses to withdraw from these events.

 

We encourage concerned participants to check the CDC website for the latest information.

 

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/index.html
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: bradl on March 11, 2020, 12:04:47 PM
How is it that USBC has not made an announcement one way or the other? The Open starts in 10 days, yet not a single word from Murphy. Professional sports teams are playing to empty arenas/stadiums, but Chad is too busy to issue some kind of release?

Way to prove what a clueless asshole you are chad.

Honestly, I think this is being hyped by the media into more than it really is, but USBC needs to be out in front publicly about it.

The same way that David Stern or whoever is running the NBA at this time also hasn't made an announcement? That's what lead LeBron James to say that he "wasn't going to play" to an empty arena, but then backtracked on that statement.

The Elk Grove Unified School District here in Sacramento hit the panic button a bit too hastily a week or so ago and immediately closed every school in their school district because a distant relative of a student - not the student themselves - may have tested presumptive positive for COVID-19. They effectively moved their entire spring break to this week instead of their planed time, which screwed over all their activities, including the state basketball tournament.

With only one case in Washoe County (Reno) and Douglas County (Carson City), the "non-announcement" would basically mean "nothing to see here, move on, continue as planned". The NCAA is doing the same. So I'd say to continue as planned and if it changes, they will announce it.

Gov. Sisolak already has plans in place for the casinos and what they need to do for the hotels, so they're set there. What you need to worry more about is if any of those casinos are owned by MGM, as they announced that they are shutting down all of their buffets effective 3/15/2020 because of COVID-19. So eat up fast, otherwise you're stuck with fast food!

BL.
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: milorafferty on March 11, 2020, 12:24:11 PM
How is it that USBC has not made an announcement one way or the other? The Open starts in 10 days, yet not a single word from Murphy. Professional sports teams are playing to empty arenas/stadiums, but Chad is too busy to issue some kind of release?

Way to prove what a clueless asshole you are chad.

Honestly, I think this is being hyped by the media into more than it really is, but USBC needs to be out in front publicly about it.

The same way that David Stern or whoever is running the NBA at this time also hasn't made an announcement? That's what lead LeBron James to say that he "wasn't going to play" to an empty arena, but then backtracked on that statement.

The Elk Grove Unified School District here in Sacramento hit the panic button a bit too hastily a week or so ago and immediately closed every school in their school district because a distant relative of a student - not the student themselves - may have tested presumptive positive for COVID-19. They effectively moved their entire spring break to this week instead of their planed time, which screwed over all their activities, including the state basketball tournament.

With only one case in Washoe County (Reno) and Douglas County (Carson City), the "non-announcement" would basically mean "nothing to see here, move on, continue as planned". The NCAA is doing the same. So I'd say to continue as planned and if it changes, they will announce it.

Gov. Sisolak already has plans in place for the casinos and what they need to do for the hotels, so they're set there. What you need to worry more about is if any of those casinos are owned by MGM, as they announced that they are shutting down all of their buffets effective 3/15/2020 because of COVID-19. So eat up fast, otherwise you're stuck with fast food!

BL.


And since there ARE a lot of things closing around the country, then let everyone know that the tournament is still on.

What's so hard to grasp about that concept?
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: northface28 on March 11, 2020, 04:27:29 PM
Lot of amateur MDs in this thread.
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: milorafferty on March 11, 2020, 04:34:34 PM
Lot of amateur MDs in this thread.

Yea, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn once. Not last night, but it should still apply.  ;D
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: ignitebowling on March 11, 2020, 05:22:08 PM
Lot of amateur MDs in this thread.

As good as any ive seen on the news lol
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: northface28 on March 11, 2020, 05:55:29 PM
Lot of amateur MDs in this thread.

As good as any ive seen on the news lol

Problem with that is no one here has medical credentials. Based off some of the grammar here I’d argue some of these same guys  are not qualified to pump gas or bag groceries. Yet, somehow, on ballreviews.com are pseudo medical professionals.
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: lilpossum1 on March 11, 2020, 06:32:14 PM
Lot of amateur MDs in this thread.

As good as any ive seen on the news lol

Problem with that is no one here has medical credentials. Based off some of the grammar here I’d argue some of these same guys  are not qualified to pump gas or bag groceries. Yet, somehow, on ballreviews.com are pseudo medical professionals.

I have medical credentials! They aren’t MD though lol
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: ignitebowling on March 11, 2020, 08:12:28 PM
Don't need medical credentials when looking at the numbers.  The pushed fear doesn't match the threat.  It's very scary what the news is doing and how the rest of the world is reacting. China got what they wanted but it's hurting them financially
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: northface28 on March 11, 2020, 08:46:48 PM
I can’t believe the NBA season has been suspended and all travel from Europe is banned.

Look at the media sensationalizing over a common cold.
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: BallReviews-Removed0385 on March 11, 2020, 09:24:08 PM
The Jazz center, Ruby Gobert, has tested positive for the virus, which has been the apparent reason the NBA has suspended basketball until further notice.  During the past few weeks the Jazz had games throughout the Eastern Conference and other games closer to home.  He was not at the arena to play tonight in OKC, and who knows how recently he contracted the virus, and from whom did he catch it?  As of now both teams (Jazz and Thunder) are quarantined in the arena in Oklahoma City.

I will be surprised if he is the only player that ends up with the virus, especially among his own teammates.  This is appropriate action considering the numbers of people who might be affected.  I hope the teams will be considerate of all the hourly employees who depend on those jobs to make ends meet. 

This thing will continue to evolve with no one having all the answers for quite some time.  Best wishes to all people everywhere being affected by this pandemic.
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: northface28 on March 11, 2020, 09:41:41 PM

The Jazz center, Ruby Gobert, has tested positive for the virus, which has been the apparent reason the NBA has suspended basketball until further notice.  During the past few weeks the Jazz had games throughout the Eastern Conference and other games closer to home.

I will be surprised if he is the only player that ends up with the virus, especially among his own teammates.  This is appropriate action considering the numbers of people who might be affected.  I hope the teams will be considerate of all the hourly employees who depend on those jobs to make ends meet. 

This thing will continue to evolve with no one having all the answers for quite some time.  Best wishes to all people everywhere being affected by this pandemic.


Fake news, the media is making this up. Ignitebowling says so himself.
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: MI 2 AZ on March 11, 2020, 11:21:18 PM
Remember this as you travel to the Open Championships:


Three security screeners at a Northern California airport have tested positive for the new coronavirus, the Transportation Security Administration confirmed in an email late Tuesday.

The transportation security officers, all of whom work at Norman Y. Mineta San Jose International Airport, are the first confirmed cases of the COVID-19 virus within the agency, according to a union official with TSA Council 100.

The identities of the three screeners have not been released.

"The officers are receiving medical care and all TSA employees they have come in contact with over the past 14 days are quarantined at home," the TSA, which is part of the Department of Homeland Security, said in a statement.

"Screening checkpoints remain open and the agency is working with the CDC, as well as the California Department of Public Health and the Santa Clara County Public Health Department to monitor the situation as well as the health and safety of our employees and the traveling public."

The three officers would have come into contact with thousands of passengers passing through the airport's security checkpoints, TSA union officials say.



....

Wonder how they are going to track who (passengers) came into contact with them?

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Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: northface28 on March 12, 2020, 09:02:26 AM
Don't need medical credentials when looking at the numbers.  The pushed fear doesn't match the threat.  It's very scary what the news is doing and how the rest of the world is reacting. China got what they wanted but it's hurting them financially

I wasn’t sure before. Now I am sure, you’re a fucking idiot. From bowling to this and everything in between. You’re contrarian for the sake of being so and think you’re “so smart” when in actuality all you do is smell your own farts because you think you’re so “sharp”.

This is global pandemic. People with far greater knowledge than you have said as much. The WHO has declared as much. But being the lead rope-dick that you are continues to spread misinformation.

Pat yourself on the back because only you matter. You're so thought provoking with your insight to whats going on. Fear mongering and propaganda in full force. The numbers tell a different story.  The one thing the news tries to avoid giving.

https://informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/covid-19-coronavirus-infographic-datapack/?fbclid=IwAR16rI58nmbgg8ATABT205X3gEN7EmB7m7qurfqPG4yMQWPLsSCifEiXkyY




Ok, kidlost2000. People FAR smarter than you disagree. Who to believe? Professionals who stand to lose millions or some casual on ballreviews.com who elbows and hops on every shot?
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: Good Times Good Times on March 12, 2020, 09:08:02 AM

Michael T. Osterholm is an American public health scientist and a biosecurity and infectious disease expert. Osterholm is the director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy (CIDRAP) at the University of Minnesota and a Regents Professor, the McKnight Presidential Endowed Chair in Public Health, a Distinguished Teaching Professor in the Division of Environmental Health Sciences, School of Public Health, a professor in the Technological Leadership Institute, College of Science and Engineering, and an adjunct professor in the University of Minnesota Medical School, all at the University of Minnesota. He is also on the Board of Regents at Luther College in Decorah, Iowa.
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: northface28 on March 12, 2020, 09:18:10 AM

Michael T. Osterholm is an American public health scientist and a biosecurity and infectious disease expert. Osterholm is the director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy (CIDRAP) at the University of Minnesota and a Regents Professor, the McKnight Presidential Endowed Chair in Public Health, a Distinguished Teaching Professor in the Division of Environmental Health Sciences, School of Public Health, a professor in the Technological Leadership Institute, College of Science and Engineering, and an adjunct professor in the University of Minnesota Medical School, all at the University of Minnesota. He is also on the Board of Regents at Luther College in Decorah, Iowa.


Delete this, the only expert needed on the matter, ignitebowling aka kidlost2000, is already here.
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: ignitebowling on March 12, 2020, 10:14:30 AM
Is there a problem that I changed my user name years ago?  You keep crying kidlost like a bad ex who needs to be served an order of protection because they can't let go.  Good luck surviving the corona-pocalypse. Stay home where you are safe.
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: TWOHAND834 on March 12, 2020, 11:40:10 AM
Fact is that China allowed this to spiral out of control for only reasons they know.  They lied about the numbers and tried to initially ensure us it was under control when in fact the true numbers were exponentially more than what they led on to.  There are 6 known strains and this one just happens to be one never seen before. 

While this is spreading faster than a California wildfire; the death rate is only around 1% and the average age is 80 years old.  Of all the confirmed cases here in Florida, only 2 are under the age of 60.  One person is 29 and that person got it while in Italy.

China is completely responsible for not containing this as well as letting foreign leaders to believe it wasn't as bad as it was.  Yet, the Fake News is striking fear in to Americans and telling us it is Trump's fault which is completely asinine.  Had China been more forthright in the severity of the virus from day 1; I would be willing to bet it would not be spreading around the world and in to the US in the manner that it has and lives could have been saved.
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: bradl on March 12, 2020, 11:57:27 AM
Fact is that China allowed this to spiral out of control for only reasons they know.  They lied about the numbers and tried to initially ensure us it was under control when in fact the true numbers were exponentially more than what they led on to.  There are 6 known strains and this one just happens to be one never seen before. 

While this is spreading faster than a California wildfire; the death rate is only around 1% and the average age is 80 years old.  Of all the confirmed cases here in Florida, only 2 are under the age of 60.  One person is 29 and that person got it while in Italy.

China is completely responsible for not containing this as well as letting foreign leaders to believe it wasn't as bad as it was.  Yet, the Fake News is striking fear in to Americans and telling us it is Trump's fault which is completely asinine.  Had China been more forthright in the severity of the virus from day 1; I would be willing to bet it would not be spreading around the world and in to the US in the manner that it has and lives could have been saved.

No-one is claiming that the virus is Trump's fault. They are criticizing his HANDLING - his response to the virus. That is totally on him. You don't have a major medical issue happen to the entire country, and then keep the experts you need to provide recommendations to you and what the full magnitude of the issue is outside of a meeting you called because you mark the meeting as CLASSIFIED.

Yes, Trump did that.

Trump went on record saying that " this is nothing/it will blow over/it will be gone by April.

Yes, Trump did that.

Trump bans travel to/from Europe except the UK? In Italy's case, fair enough, but no other country in Europe has any cases as extreme as Italy. In fact, the next worse for COVID IS THE UK.

Yes. Trump did that.

And as if COVID isn't going to come in from any other country? You know... Japan, S. Korea, or China, since it all started there?

Yes.. Trump did that.

So yes, Trump deserves all the flack he's getting on his handling and responses to COVID-19. That's all on him, and isn't asinine; that's his own muck-up, and he bloody well owns that.

BL.
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: ignitebowling on March 12, 2020, 12:11:46 PM
Not here to go political on this for blame etc. Other then China lol it's all them

Anyone watch Joe Rogans expert?  Maybe the first 3mins???

Coronavirus according to them:  480,000 projected deaths worldwide,  with 96 million projected to be infected. Which is a mortality rate of .0005. The CDC list influenza with 242,000-690,000 deaths worldwide each year. Overreacting to corona or under reacting to the flu?
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: ksucat on March 12, 2020, 12:30:10 PM
Collegiate sectionals just got postponed.  Tournament is definitely in jeopardy.  See blurb from bowl.com below.

ARLINGTON, Texas – The United States Bowling Congress (USBC) is postponing the Intercollegiate Singles and Team Sectionals scheduled for March 13-15. Competition at all locations is postponed indefinitely.

USBC made this decision after reviewing the actions of universities and national governing bodies to postpone or cancel collegiate events due to COVID-19 safety concerns.

USBC will continue to monitor conditions in the coming weeks and consider options for rescheduling the intercollegiate events. USBC will continue the previously announced policy to refund entry fees for any school or athlete who chooses to withdraw from these events.
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: 3835 on March 12, 2020, 12:31:22 PM
Both - many people don’t get a flu shot and completely dismiss or under react to the flu. Conversely most folks are overreacting to COVID 19. We need to average our reactions out.
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: ignitebowling on March 12, 2020, 12:32:40 PM
It will likely be canceled next.  Considering the international competitors factor along with elderly bowlers it's probably going to be announced sooner then later
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: northface28 on March 12, 2020, 12:36:41 PM
12,000-60,000 people of all ages die in the US from the flu every year.  That and heart disease is going to be a bigger risk to most bowlers then the cornavirus will be world wide.

Canceling is the trendy thing these corporations are jumping on.  So nationals should be safe.

This post didn’t age well.
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: ignitebowling on March 12, 2020, 12:54:16 PM
12,000-60,000 people of all ages die in the US from the flu every year.  That and heart disease is going to be a bigger risk to most bowlers then the cornavirus will be world wide.

Canceling is the trendy thing these corporations are jumping on.  So nationals should be safe.

This post didn’t age well.

I updated my number with the experts.   Doesn't appear coronavirus is going to pass flu or heart disease. Keep us posted
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: milorafferty on March 12, 2020, 12:57:50 PM
Fact is that China allowed this to spiral out of control for only reasons they know.  They lied about the numbers and tried to initially ensure us it was under control when in fact the true numbers were exponentially more than what they led on to.  There are 6 known strains and this one just happens to be one never seen before. 

While this is spreading faster than a California wildfire; the death rate is only around 1% and the average age is 80 years old.  Of all the confirmed cases here in Florida, only 2 are under the age of 60.  One person is 29 and that person got it while in Italy.

China is completely responsible for not containing this as well as letting foreign leaders to believe it wasn't as bad as it was.  Yet, the Fake News is striking fear in to Americans and telling us it is Trump's fault which is completely asinine.  Had China been more forthright in the severity of the virus from day 1; I would be willing to bet it would not be spreading around the world and in to the US in the manner that it has and lives could have been saved.

No-one is claiming that the virus is Trump's fault. They are criticizing his HANDLING - his response to the virus. That is totally on him. You don't have a major medical issue happen to the entire country, and then keep the experts you need to provide recommendations to you and what the full magnitude of the issue is outside of a meeting you called because you mark the meeting as CLASSIFIED.

Yes, Trump did that.

Trump went on record saying that " this is nothing/it will blow over/it will be gone by April.

Yes, Trump did that.

Trump bans travel to/from Europe except the UK? In Italy's case, fair enough, but no other country in Europe has any cases as extreme as Italy. In fact, the next worse for COVID IS THE UK.

Yes. Trump did that.

And as if COVID isn't going to come in from any other country? You know... Japan, S. Korea, or China, since it all started there?

Yes.. Trump did that.

So yes, Trump deserves all the flack he's getting on his handling and responses to COVID-19. That's all on him, and isn't asinine; that's his own muck-up, and he bloody well owns that.

BL.


Yea, yea. We get it. Everything Trump is bad and everything Obama is AWESOME!

I can guess who you voted for...

Here is a bit of info for you, both sides suck.
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: TWOHAND834 on March 12, 2020, 01:40:13 PM
Fact is that China allowed this to spiral out of control for only reasons they know.  They lied about the numbers and tried to initially ensure us it was under control when in fact the true numbers were exponentially more than what they led on to.  There are 6 known strains and this one just happens to be one never seen before. 

While this is spreading faster than a California wildfire; the death rate is only around 1% and the average age is 80 years old.  Of all the confirmed cases here in Florida, only 2 are under the age of 60.  One person is 29 and that person got it while in Italy.

China is completely responsible for not containing this as well as letting foreign leaders to believe it wasn't as bad as it was.  Yet, the Fake News is striking fear in to Americans and telling us it is Trump's fault which is completely asinine.  Had China been more forthright in the severity of the virus from day 1; I would be willing to bet it would not be spreading around the world and in to the US in the manner that it has and lives could have been saved.

No-one is claiming that the virus is Trump's fault. They are criticizing his HANDLING - his response to the virus. That is totally on him. You don't have a major medical issue happen to the entire country, and then keep the experts you need to provide recommendations to you and what the full magnitude of the issue is outside of a meeting you called because you mark the meeting as CLASSIFIED.

Yes, Trump did that.

Trump went on record saying that " this is nothing/it will blow over/it will be gone by April.

Yes, Trump did that.

Trump bans travel to/from Europe except the UK? In Italy's case, fair enough, but no other country in Europe has any cases as extreme as Italy. In fact, the next worse for COVID IS THE UK.

Yes. Trump did that.

And as if COVID isn't going to come in from any other country? You know... Japan, S. Korea, or China, since it all started there?

Yes.. Trump did that.

So yes, Trump deserves all the flack he's getting on his handling and responses to COVID-19. That's all on him, and isn't asinine; that's his own muck-up, and he bloody well owns that.

BL.


I said had Trump known the real numbers from the start he could have made his decisions sooner and helped to contain the virus.  China informed him the virus was not spreading nearly a rapid as it was.  China bold faced lied about the whole thing and yet he was monitoring it from the start.  Can you imagine if he would have taken 6 months to make a decision like someone else did during the Ebola and Swine outbreaks?  Thats all I am saying. 
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: BallReviews-Removed0385 on March 12, 2020, 04:32:44 PM
This pandemic will probably continue to grow, and we will learn more about it daily. 

Let's hope some people will avoid any unnecessary health problems by being aware of how it's transmitted.  I also believe this is not a panic stage, but no one seems to have all the answers yet. 

May common sense help get everyone through this life changing event, unscathed if possible.
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: SVstar34 on March 12, 2020, 04:36:42 PM
FloBowling just sent an email that the Masters has been postponed to a later date and both the Open and Women's Championship delayed until May 1st at the moment
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: northface28 on March 12, 2020, 04:41:51 PM
FloBowling just sent an email that the Masters has been postponed to a later date and both the Open and Women's Championship delayed until May 1st at the moment

Say it louder, for the people in the back.
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: milorafferty on March 12, 2020, 04:48:49 PM
FloBowling just sent an email that the Masters has been postponed to a later date and both the Open and Women's Championship delayed until May 1st at the moment

And yet still not a peep from Chad...
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: milorafferty on March 12, 2020, 04:50:24 PM
I spoke too soon, it's now on the main page.


https://www.bowl.com/News/NewsDetails.aspx?id=23622334320 (https://www.bowl.com/News/NewsDetails.aspx?id=23622334320)
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: milorafferty on March 12, 2020, 04:56:49 PM
But Chad is still an asshole....  ;D
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: ignitebowling on March 12, 2020, 06:23:33 PM
Was referring to the plague numbers.  Wasn't going to Reno so that won't affect my bowling plans
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: tommygn on March 13, 2020, 08:20:38 AM
From the CDC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNo5ZDvKuHg


I've got my popcorn ready.
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: Pinbuster on March 18, 2020, 07:39:33 AM
Nationals now delayed to May 23 extended to August 29.
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: sport300 on March 18, 2020, 11:00:18 AM
Bowl.com does not reflect that.
Do you have a source at the usbc?
That change would now affect my dates.
   Thanks.
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: HankScorpio on March 18, 2020, 11:16:03 AM
Bowl.com does not reflect that.
Do you have a source at the usbc?
That change would now affect my dates.
   Thanks.

https://bowl.com/News/NewsDetails.aspx?id=23622334326
Title: Re: What are the chances?
Post by: sport300 on March 18, 2020, 11:17:16 AM
I scrolled around some more & found the update.
  Thanks.