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chrisleftwich

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What does everyone think about 2011 Pattern
« on: February 28, 2011, 02:08:29 AM »
Pattern has been posted a day early.  What does everyone think?  How are you going to play this pattern compared to last year?


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Re: What does everyone think about 2011 Pattern
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2011, 10:36:34 AM »
where is the shot posted? been looking can't find it.


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Re: What does everyone think about 2011 Pattern
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2011, 10:39:13 AM »
Lot....LOT more volume up front a foot longer.  My guess is scores will be lower as the end of the pattern has a much smaller ratio of oil to last year.

 

If I had a guess there will be more of a look playing in this year, and there will be NOTHING right of 5.


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Re: What does everyone think about 2011 Pattern
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2011, 10:57:33 AM »
I also think that the pattern will play a little more inside and the breakpoint will be around 10 most likely.  Alley is putting it out tonight, so I get to practice on the pattern.  I leave for Nationals on Wed, so glad it came out a day early. 

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Re: What does everyone think about 2011 Pattern
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2011, 02:04:51 PM »
Will have a blog up with some initial thoughts in the next couple of hours.


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Re: What does everyone think about 2011 Pattern
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2011, 05:18:26 PM »
I like the fact that there's noticeably less conditioner at the end of the pattern from a side-to-side perspective.  The cushion should be a little right of what it was last season with the normal OOB for errant shots.  If you play with moderately surfaced equipment around 10-7-ish during warm-ups, I think you might be able to create a nice little bounce area.

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Re: What does everyone think about 2011 Pattern
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2011, 07:21:33 AM »
In seeing the pattern yesterday I let Super Bowl here in Appleton know about it, and the manager and head mechanic spent the afternoon getting it set up.  Last year I felt as did others in our group they did a pretty good job getting it close to the look that was at the stadium so I'm trusting they did the same this year.  I threw an Anarchy at box drilled 4x4x2 straight up 8-9 with my left foot on 23. (I'm wide through the shoulders as Riggs will attest ;o))

The league only plays 4 per pair so obviuosly transition will come faster and more frequently on the big stage.  What I saw was a little wiggle room (free hook) to the right similar to last year.  Not a ton but a little, but I did see more hold "in".  Last year from the start there was no hold until you burned a hole in the pattern, but there seems to be some there this year.  We also had a Reign of Fire and a Nano on the pair.  I get my Nano tomorrow and am ancious to try this piece next week.  Didn't really find a need to move for the four games but after the first two I wanted to try a little stronger hand position and more tilt to see the look and moved two left and threw up 10.  Still had a good look.  Shot 190-225-225-212.  The 190 I left a 10 on the first ball and in moving left came to a DEAD stop and missed it.  Missed a seven a few later that I went too far right and hooked across the face, and got careless in the 10th with a double up and left a 2-8-10 for another open.  The 225's I had where clean, and the 212 I had a blower 7-10 on a shreader and a 9 pin in the 6th that I olayed and hooked across the front of between 6 strikes.

The 850 was about 10th high out of about 30 bowlers and there was one more 8 below me.  Some struggled as expected.  I bowled with Marn Stern who goes out with Dirty's crew next week and she came out with a 240+

got a little loose the next two games but finished with a duece.  In talking with a few others near by who seemed to be doing well the feeling was they where similar to last year and there did seem to be some hold from the start. All felt as I do as mentioned earlier transition will happen quicker and more often but if you are on it early and can keep up they should be very playable.  It will be interesting to hear what the guys that go out first see and report.  We head out two weeks from today...  Good luck everyone!!

 

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Re: What does everyone think about 2011 Pattern
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2011, 10:32:53 AM »
You talked the lane man into putting out the Nationals shot for a regular league night?  Did the rest of the league know it was going to be a much different shot than usual?  Most "good" bowlers would love a chance to throw on it, especially with enough bowlers on the pair to simulate the tournament, but most "house" bowlers would burn you at the stake if you changed their shot, especially without notice.


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Re: What does everyone think about 2011 Pattern
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2011, 12:19:40 PM »
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It's a PBAX league. Last week they had out last years pattern as was the plan last night until I saw this years posted already mid morning and gave them a call.  And your right, trying it on a regular league would leave some very unhappy campers...........2 more weeks left in the league season and the pattern will run to the end of the season.

 

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Re: What does everyone think about 2011 Pattern
« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2011, 02:11:54 PM »
Iceman,
 
   What day does Dirty's team bowl?? We bowl the 13th and 14th and would like to go and watch them. 
 
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Re: What does everyone think about 2011 Pattern
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2011, 04:21:48 PM »
Stand on 23 to play straight up 8 or 9 ??? Now thats funny stuff.
 



THEICEMAN wrote on 3/1/2011 8:21 AM:
In seeing the pattern yesterday I let Super Bowl here in Appleton know about it, and the manager and head mechanic spent the afternoon getting it set up.  Last year I felt as did others in our group they did a pretty good job getting it close to the look that was at the stadium so I'm trusting they did the same this year.  I threw an Anarchy at box drilled 4x4x2 straight up 8-9 with my left foot on 23. (I'm wide through the shoulders as Riggs will attest ;o))


The league only plays 4 per pair so obviuosly transition will come faster and more frequently on the big stage.  What I saw was a little wiggle room (free hook) to the right similar to last year.  Not a ton but a little, but I did see more hold "in".  Last year from the start there was no hold until you burned a hole in the pattern, but there seems to be some there this year.  We also had a Reign of Fire and a Nano on the pair.  I get my Nano tomorrow and am ancious to try this piece next week.  Didn't really find a need to move for the four games but after the first two I wanted to try a little stronger hand position and more tilt to see the look and moved two left and threw up 10.  Still had a good look.  Shot 190-225-225-212.  The 190 I left a 10 on the first ball and in moving left came to a DEAD stop and missed it.  Missed a seven a few later that I went too far right and hooked across the face, and got careless in the 10th with a double up and left a 2-8-10 for another open.  The 225's I had where clean, and the 212 I had a blower 7-10 on a shreader and a 9 pin in the 6th that I olayed and hooked across the front of between 6 strikes.


The 850 was about 10th high out of about 30 bowlers and there was one more 8 below me.  Some struggled as expected.  I bowled with Marn Stern who goes out with Dirty's crew next week and she came out with a 240+


got a little loose the next two games but finished with a duece.  In talking with a few others near by who seemed to be doing well the feeling was they where similar to last year and there did seem to be some hold from the start. All felt as I do as mentioned earlier transition will happen quicker and more often but if you are on it early and can keep up they should be very playable.  It will be interesting to hear what the guys that go out first see and report.  We head out two weeks from today...  Good luck everyone!!


 


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Re: What does everyone think about 2011 Pattern
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2011, 05:52:51 AM »
Think Dirty's team is March 11-12.


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Re: What does everyone think about 2011 Pattern
« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2011, 06:29:11 AM »
Stealth....I'm extremely wide shouldered, so yep left foot on 23 to throw up 8-9 and I walk a pinch toward my target.  At the foul line I'm sliding about 6 boards to the right.  To throw up the rail I usually am standing about 18.

Scott, as Riggs said...Dirty's crew is bowling the 11th and 12th.

 

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Re: What does everyone think about 2011 Pattern
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2011, 03:06:47 PM »
Ok this may be a stupid question but I don't understand all this lingo they are using for this lane condition.
What does this REVERSE OIL and FOWARD OIL mean and all the other terms they are using, can some one explain this to me.
Because when I look at this pattern the way they have it laid out, it almost looks like your typical Christmas tree pattern but I must be wrong cause I don't think they would put that easy of a shot down. Other wise just throw it out to the gutter and let it come back into the pocket, cause it looks dry out there.
 


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