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riggs

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Hackin' in Albuquerque
« on: April 05, 2008, 01:26:13 AM »
Turbo 2-N-1 Grips #1                                    
Mc Dowell    183  241  190    614
Richter      196  168  216    580
Richgels     214  192  226    632
Myers Jr.    192  225  188    605
Shady        204  211  226    641
Total        989  1037 1046  3072  


I am not sure if I can offer much help to anyone with this report.

After we bowled the practice session with Jasnau I thought we had a good chance for 3,250 or better and we pretty much broke them in the same way (up 8-10) we did with Jas but you could see right away that it was tighter to the right with less hook overall. And once the oil got down the lane there really was very little miss room right even though we got few practice balls to the right so didn't put much carrydown there. That was the tightest I have seen the back-ends at Nationals in my career, I think.

You can see by Bowlers' Edge scores how hard they were/can be. Yet between our two teams was an Arizona team that played WAY out around 5 in practice and opened them up big time. They were just throwing it right and getting return big time. One of their guys had about 740 and hammered brackets. (We made a small profit.) They had a thumbless guy that threw it about 23 mph I estimate (no lie) - he has some messengers you could not believe. One flew up on the sweep when it came down and traveled across the sweep!!!!! Didn't hit anything but friggin' amazing!

So perhaps playing out is the best way to break them down?? Or maybe our pair was not a good pair?? I honestly don't know but I suspect that playing way out might be the answer IF if you have enough revs to really break them down. In retrospect I think we needed to have really Ab'd our balls down to fresh 1,000 before we bowled. I know mine had too much lane shine and I needed more surface, IMHO.

We also had horrible carry - nothing more than a 4-bagger for any of us. Only one game over 226. Final tally for just our team was 8 solid 9s, 3 stone 7s, 1 solid 8 and uncountable mixer 7s. Very few ring 10s, though. And, of course, Mac's legendary finish on 26 already has been recorded on several cell phones - his last game was XXX then a solid 9 on lane 26, X on 25, 5-7-10 on 26 , X on 25, 4-6-7 on 26 , mixer 7 on 25 (costing him the 1-5-9!), and 9/8 in the 10th for 190. FRY!

Satan was struggling with his mechanics all night and went back to the room to stab needles in his eyeballs when we got done. Gail had 605 that should have been a ton more. Same for Shades with his 641. My 632 felt like a 550 in ball reaction because I never felt like I had anything where I knew whatmy ball was going to do after the first seven frames. My only ball with enough surface was the SECRET AGENT and that ball was not a move in and give it away ball. I needed way more surface on SPECIAL AGENT and high pin GRAVITY. After grinding for about a game and making everything for about a dozen frames I went to a rolling, shiny, low pin GRAVITY and just tried to hug the oil line. That got me a very uncomfortable 226 the last game. I do not know how many times I went from in the pocket to punching the face the next shot on a lane with a good shot. Shades and Gail had the same thing happen several times. Yet it was easy to move too much and 2-pin or miss the headpin. Very strange ball reaction - never saw the return from the right that you can see in the DVD of Gaines' team playing at the DVD booth.  Maybe they broke them down further out???

We had 18 opens and only two were pure misses - my clean miss of the 3-6 (way to focus Jeff!) in the third frame of the first game and Satan missed a 10-pin. Rest were splits/washes or a couple 3-6-9-10 or 3-6-10 leaves.

After starting about 10 most of us ended up around 20 to a little inside 20. Satan and Gail with very strong CELLs were the only ones who could really give it away to the right and get any return and even that was iffy. Both John Wittkowske and Brian Thyes bowled GREAT on our other team and had just 614 and 594. John was locked the first 18 frames or so and then lost his look. Brian was a bit iffy to start then hardly missed the hole the last 25 frames and never got crap out of it. He really should had MUCH more.





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Re: Hackin' in Albuquerque
« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2008, 10:27:27 AM »
I had one GRAVITY pin over bridge and one pin under middle finger both with key very strong. I think a smoother rolling ball than the GRAVITY is better this year. Same with SHIFT. (BTW, I had 715 in singles last year with SHIFT - just forget last year - it is nothing like this year.)

Go with smooth rolling stuff with a ton of surface - CELLs, SPECIALs, SECRETs. Or at least take your GRAVITY surface way down.

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Re: Hackin' in Albuquerque
« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2008, 08:44:41 AM »
i just got back sunday.

heres my impression of the shot

Team
I rolled my special agent, pin under ring and had a nice smooth ball reaction, but outside of 10 was pretty much ob. I tried to play 16-12 with some success, shot 208, 203. lanes dried up a touch the last game, so i moved in to 18-12 and shot 210 for 621. If you didnt get the ball through the heads far enough, the ball does check early and if you pitch it out it couldnt recover unless you really strap on it. Couple bad shots but kept the ball pretty much in play to score ok.

Singles/Doubles
Watched the teams in front of us and saw most of them trying to play outside of 10, needless to say, neither team shot 900 any game, but they did open up the outside to give a lil miss room right. Started out playing 22-12 226-256 then the heads started to hook a lil and shot 191, but moved in to 25 and left 2 good 7 pins that came in light for 682. Moved over to our singles pair, playing 22-12 and threw my first shot kinda bad and washed out, then stoned a 9 and struck out for 268, followed by 247 247 for 762 (4-9 in the 10th the last game that could have fell or at least left me one or the other)

I basically played them very close to last year, but you just gotta pick up the transition when it happens and it makes a HUGE difference who you follow in doubles/singles.

Throw good shots and they are very scorable, you just cant spray it all over the place, which is how bowling should be.

All in all a good showing, profitted about $3000 in brackets and probably another $4000-$5000 in prize money, plus if 191 makes it by the super brackets, I have a good chance to win some big money


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Re: Hackin' in Albuquerque
« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2008, 09:04:16 AM »
Awesome bowling....if you don't mind me asking, how much did you invest in the regular brackets.  What kind of finish did you have on your equipment?  1000, 2000, polish?  Thanks


quote:
i just got back sunday.

heres my impression of the shot

Team
I rolled my special agent, pin under ring and had a nice smooth ball reaction, but outside of 10 was pretty much ob. I tried to play 16-12 with some success, shot 208, 203. lanes dried up a touch the last game, so i moved in to 18-12 and shot 210 for 621. If you didnt get the ball through the heads far enough, the ball does check early and if you pitch it out it couldnt recover unless you really strap on it. Couple bad shots but kept the ball pretty much in play to score ok.

Singles/Doubles
Watched the teams in front of us and saw most of them trying to play outside of 10, needless to say, neither team shot 900 any game, but they did open up the outside to give a lil miss room right. Started out playing 22-12 226-256 then the heads started to hook a lil and shot 191, but moved in to 25 and left 2 good 7 pins that came in light for 682. Moved over to our singles pair, playing 22-12 and threw my first shot kinda bad and washed out, then stoned a 9 and struck out for 268, followed by 247 247 for 762 (4-9 in the 10th the last game that could have fell or at least left me one or the other)

I basically played them very close to last year, but you just gotta pick up the transition when it happens and it makes a HUGE difference who you follow in doubles/singles.

Throw good shots and they are very scorable, you just cant spray it all over the place, which is how bowling should be.

All in all a good showing, profitted about $3000 in brackets and probably another $4000-$5000 in prize money, plus if 191 makes it by the super brackets, I have a good chance to win some big money


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Re: Hackin' in Albuquerque
« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2008, 09:31:51 AM »
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Re: Hackin' in Albuquerque
« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2008, 05:57:37 PM »
I got in 80 in team, 50 and 50 in doubles/singles, so $1800 and got back $1670 and $2985.  plus $250 in singles super brackets and $200 in doubles super brackets.

Used a pin under ring special that i had at 1000 and threw at the bowlers journal, then took it up to 4000 abralon to try and give some pop on the backend and seemed to work great at both places.
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Re: Hackin' in Albuquerque
« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2008, 10:20:06 AM »
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My look in team was similar to Riggs last night.  Started at about 12 with my box condition cell, and had to make rapid moves, ending up about 18 by the third game befor totally losing my look with that ball and going to a pearl fury.  The last game I got very comfortable with the Fury but only shot a clean 208 with every ball in the pocket and one double.  In fact I shot 602 with four doubles and only two opens.  

I expect to start about 18 in dbls using either my Fury or a new
Gravity Shift tonight.


Thanks for the report Bob...Good Luck tonight in D/S.

I am going to try the same ball there myself, Cell OOB right now. May try to bring it down to 1000 or 500 Ab to really dig into the oil and smooth out the reaction, we'll see how it works this weekend, PBA regional on Scorpion.
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Re: Hackin' in Albuquerque
« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2008, 01:08:19 PM »
Riggs, I watched most of your team shift and I'm not sure you were aware of something. For the last game at least there was dead wood coming down with the rack by the 6-pin.Thats why every time the 6 was left it spotted it way right.But it was also spotting it left on the first ball cycle. That could explain part of the bad carry on the right lane

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Edited on 4/10/2008 1:14 PM

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Re: Hackin' in Albuquerque
« Reply #23 on: April 10, 2008, 02:53:53 PM »
We did know that. Not sure why the guy didn't pull it out of there when he was respotting the pins.
But bad carry wasn't just that - was told Rakauskas had a 5-7-10, 5-7 and 8-10 on lane 26 in their singles. Something was just funky with that lane.