Post by: sevenpin63 on February 04, 2011, 09:37:43 AM
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Post by: sevenpin63 on February 06, 2011, 07:23:28 PM
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Post by: sstaz on February 06, 2011, 07:48:11 PM
Post by: THEICEMAN on February 07, 2011, 06:43:39 AM
sevenpin:
Look for them to post the pattern about March 1st, just before the tournament starts by a couple days. It's never earlier than that. Will be interesting as when we where out last year as well as quite a few others the rumor was getting thrown around we would see USBC blue pattern this year. I think it will end up similar to last year. A little more hook, playable if you all work together and keep up with transitions, and cover your spares.
THEICEMAN
Post by: shipper50 on February 07, 2011, 06:49:15 AM
Your in for the bowling experience of your life. Spares are the name of the game at the Nationals. I have seen guys who say they average 2teens in league go out and not break 1600.
Shipper
Post by: sevenpin63 on February 07, 2011, 01:03:21 PM
Ok thanks I will keep an eye out for when they announce the pattern.
As far as spares go, I don't miss to many makable spares, so I should be ok there.
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Post by: Crankenstein300 on February 07, 2011, 02:23:14 PM
It's not as bad as people are making it out to be. You just can't be a one dimensional bowler. I played up the outside on the fresh last year with good success. You just couldn't swing out to it with much success.
As someone mentioned they will post the shot right before the tournament and it can be downloaded to the later oilers.
Post by: charlest on February 07, 2011, 05:41:16 PM
I hope you shoot straight at spares with a polyester ball. If you're thinking of throwing a hook at them, as many people do on a house shot, you might not be so happy doing that at Nationals. The oil pattern is really different, very close to a true sport pattern for strike shots as well as spare shots.
"None are so blind as those who will not see."
"Some bowlers are crazy as pickled cats."
Post by: sevenpin63 on February 07, 2011, 05:54:00 PM
Well I am left handed and spares on the left side I do shoot a straight plastic ball at them, but pins on the right side I do hook into them, but I can shoot straight at them if need be.
I am versatile as I can play straight up the boards or swing the ball or play a inside shot.
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Post by: charlest on February 08, 2011, 08:09:20 PM
I have not been to Nationals in 2 years but I doubt if the patterns have changed a lot - still basically a sport pattern. This means that you really need to shoot all spares with plastic. This doesn't mean you won't get lucky and find an area that allows playing a hook at any spare, be it left or right sides for a lefty or a righty, but the odds are against it. I have seen tons of people, good bowlers, throwing their normal house shot hooking spare ball at spares and missing tons of easy 1 and 2 pin spares. They get very frustrated.VERY quickly. Do yourself a favor and start practicing using plastic/polyester at all spares, left side and right side. It will make life at Nationals much more satisfying.
"None are so blind as those who will not see."
"Some bowlers are crazy as pickled cats."
Post by: shipper50 on February 09, 2011, 07:41:00 AM
How about posting a report when you get back and tell us what you shot and was it anything like you thought it would be?
Shipper
Post by: sevenpin63 on February 09, 2011, 01:26:18 PM
Will do, but it will be a while as I don't go until early June.
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Edited by sevenpin63 on 2/9/2011 at 2:44 PM
Post by: atltnpnr on February 11, 2011, 03:17:15 AM
Early June is when I will be out there, 2nd- 5th .
Bowling is like life. Sometimes you are the ball. Other times you are the pins.
Post by: sevenpin63 on February 11, 2011, 01:05:13 PM
I will just miss you as I will be there from the 9th to the 12th.
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Post by: Jorge300 on February 15, 2011, 01:29:44 PM
We bowl the 2nd and 3rd I believe, so will be out there the same time as you.
Jorge300
Post by: Jorge300 on February 15, 2011, 01:34:18 PM
Seven,
Sorry for the late reply, but let me add something to what others have said. For the past 2-3 years, it hasn't been a sport type shot.....it has been an actual sport compliant shot. A true sports pattern. Scores have actually gone up, mainly because of the fact that the heavier concentration of oil has allowed those who work together to actually open up the lanes and post some better scores. We've also seen that for D/S the pattern not drying out quite as much and allowing the record setting scores of the past few years. From what I have seen and read, the way to score is to get at least 5 guys, but better off 10 guys, who will work together to open a hole in the oil that will allow you to move left and create area for the 2nd and 3rd games. As for D/S, it is still a crap shoot, dependant on who you follow.
Jorge300
Post by: sevenpin63 on February 15, 2011, 01:52:06 PM
Maybe this will be good but we will see. But I do tend to bowl better on more and long oil.
I bowl 2 leagues and I average better on the house that puts down 40 to 42 feet of oil, than compared to the house that puts down 35 to 38 feet of oil. More control and not as much snap on the back end helps my game.
Thanks everyone for your replies. 
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Post by: Jorge300 on February 17, 2011, 08:20:31 AM
Seven, I wish you the best of luck. But, it is more then just more oil. I can't say what your houses do, but even if it if 40-42 ft of a THS shot, you will see a big difference at Nationals. The big thing needed, which sadly I was lacking last year, is consistantcy. You have to repeat shots, especially at the beginning of team event. Also, the USBC Open start with a totally fresh shot for team event, so you potentially (since I don't know your style of bowling) could see some snap at the start since the backends are clean. Your best prep would be to see if the house that puts out the longer oil would put down the actual USBC pattern for you, once it is released. While your house can't duplicate it 100% exact, it will give you some idea of how the lanes will react and if you bowl enough, how they will transition. But, also keep an open enough mind to see what ball reaction you have at the stadium once you are there, and make moves/adjustments off of the line you threw in your hometown practice sessions.
Jorge300
Post by: Good Times Good Times on February 17, 2011, 08:28:43 AM
Everyone should just go practice on a 1:1 completely flat US Open pattern. Then you'll have an idea of "what it's like" to have to be SOOO consistant and accurate. Reward good shots, and errant "spray" shots will be exposed. I'm not saying the shot in itself is the same, what I am saying is it would be good practice and preparation and should give some idea of how precise shot making will have to be to score.
Check the ego at the door.
GetOffMe10Pin
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Post by: shipper50 on February 23, 2011, 12:36:21 PM
Has the shot been posted yet? I can't seem to find anything on the usbc site as it takes forever for it to load for me.
Shipper
Post by: milorafferty on February 23, 2011, 12:53:37 PM
Bowl.com has a statement that says Lane conditions will be available March 1st.
Post by: shipper50 on February 23, 2011, 03:31:40 PM
Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shipper