BallReviews
General Category => USBC Tournament => Topic started by: thewhiz on May 27, 2017, 11:43:27 PM
-
Sure lock
No rules
No Rules pearl
Eternal cell
Timeless
Wreck em
Unhinged
Tropical breeze
Pitch black
Only taking 3. My pso said to take urethane. Not sure about that.
-
Things you would factor in, what you shoot your spares with and your style. Rev rate,ball speed and LH or RH
-
If you're bowling the BJ, def take urethane, up 5 is in play. The BJ is stupid easy.
-
Rev rate in the 300's. Ball speed 16 mph. Norm duke Walter Ray type of player. Not much hand.
-
3? I'd say Sure Lock, Eternal Cell, Pitch Black.
-
3? I'd say Sure Lock, Eternal Cell, Pitch Black.
I second Dooms motion.
The eternal might be best at 2k no polish....
-
I think the sure lock is a good choice. Then the no rules pearl, can adjust surface if needed. Then the timeless as long as you can shoot spares with one of those balls. If not substitute the pitch black for the timeless
-
What about taking an iq tour solid. I can always get one by the time I leave.
-
An IQ Tour Solid would be a better choice than the Timeless. Then you would have a strong solid(sure lock),a pearl ( no rules pearl) that if needed could adjust surface. And a predictable mid range solid (IQ Tour). 3 balls, that if needed with surface adjustments would cover the conditions in Vegas.
-
I just got back from there a couple of weeks ago and my stats are similar to yours. An IQ Tour Solid, pin down at 2000 grit surface, was money for me in team event. If I could only have gotten out of my way my scores would have been better.
For D/S I used a Menace at 500 grit, based on your list I would take the Sure Lock and add lots of surface to it. I had one good game in Singles (268), but quickly came back to earth with a 138 the next game. If I had been paying better attention, I would have jumped inside (same ball) instead of continuing to play off of the corner.
I took a Pitch Black for a spare ball and also because of a gut feeling about team event. Ultimately it was used for corner pin spares...I left more than I thought I would.
My suggestion what to take:
Sure Lock at 500 grit
IQ Tour Solid at 2000 grit
Pitch Black
-
If you're bowling the BJ, def take urethane, up 5 is in play. The BJ is stupid easy.
Isn't the BJ still held on the minor's pattern? and if so, that should tell everyone how to play minors..
BL.
-
If you're bowling the BJ, def take urethane, up 5 is in play. The BJ is stupid easy.
Isn't the BJ still held on the minor's pattern? and if so, that should tell everyone how to play minors..
BL.
No, lanes play different in the South Point center vs plaza. The regular South Point center has a lot of friction
-
A plastic ball for 98% of your spare leaves.
Team has more friction then expected and urethane is a great option to blend out the over under.
Singles/doubles has very little friction and lots of oil between 2nd arrow and the gutter. Also lots of oil up front. If you don't have a group of bowlers working together to try and open up the shot prepare for 6 games of suck.
-
A plastic ball for 98% of your spare leaves.
Team has more friction then expected and urethane is a great option to blend out the over under.
Singles/doubles has very little friction and lots of oil between 2nd arrow and the gutter. Also lots of oil up front. If you don't have a group of bowlers working together to try and open up the shot prepare for 6 games of suck.
I just got back from Vegas, and I concur wholeheartedly. Dbls and sgls was unnecessarily tough for me because of other players spraying balls all over the place! I had an initial decent game with a 213 and then the carrydown happened and it was downhill from there!
-
A plastic ball for 98% of your spare leaves.
Team has more friction then expected and urethane is a great option to blend out the over under.
Singles/doubles has very little friction and lots of oil between 2nd arrow and the gutter. Also lots of oil up front. If you don't have a group of bowlers working together to try and open up the shot prepare for 6 games of suck.
I just got back from Vegas, and I concur wholeheartedly. Dbls and sgls was unnecessarily tough for me because of other players spraying balls all over the place! I had an initial decent game with a 213 and then the carrydown happened and it was downhill from there!
Had that happen in team after game two. Singles/doubles we had two medium rev players playing together, 3 very low rev players, and one no thumb medium/high rev player.
Never moved from a 5 board area and made very small adjustments when the oil moved around down lane taking away the small bit of friction. We were the first squad of the day. I think as the day goes on they warm up a little and may give bowlers a little better chance.
It was also the first of April with temps in the low 70s, I'd imagine the heat is now a factor. We were sweating in that place when it wasn't hot outside.
-
I was one of the lucky ones, used 1 ball in teams. Swerve GT w/compound and a Sideswipe Solid(2000) in dbls/sin. I was able to control the break point by changing hand positions. But there were people on my pair in dbl/sin that did experience the reaction you are mentioning.
-
Had that happen in team after game two. Singles/doubles we had two medium rev players playing together, 3 very low rev players, and one no thumb medium/high rev player.
Never moved from a 5 board area and made very small adjustments when the oil moved around down lane taking away the small bit of friction. We were the first squad of the day. I think as the day goes on they warm up a little and may give bowlers a little better chance.
It was also the first of April with temps in the low 70s, I'd imagine the heat is now a factor. We were sweating in that place when it wasn't hot outside.
[/quote]
Last week was amazingly beautiful, all week long. Most of the week's temps were at 78 degrees! Had one day when it went up briefly to 98 degrees....then a coldfront came through and brought it back down to 71 degrees!! Very pleasant indeed.
As for the lanes breaking down gradually........NOT!!! They wouldn't let it happen! It was an absolute refrigerator in there all week long. I heard, and saw many a spectator complaining about how cold it was in there, and our spouses had to wear blankets the whole time we were bowling! Of course we didn't notice it much, but it was evident they wanted that shot to hold up!
-
Wow....
-
Just FYI. I'm sure you're right in that they wanted the shot to hold up, but (and forgive because you probably already know this, but others may not...) All of Vegas is kept cold and bright. Carpets are loud, lights are on, and it's colder than $%^&... It's all about keeping customers awake and playing...
-
Had that happen in team after game two. Singles/doubles we had two medium rev players playing together, 3 very low rev players, and one no thumb medium/high rev player.
Never moved from a 5 board area and made very small adjustments when the oil moved around down lane taking away the small bit of friction. We were the first squad of the day. I think as the day goes on they warm up a little and may give bowlers a little better chance.
It was also the first of April with temps in the low 70s, I'd imagine the heat is now a factor. We were sweating in that place when it wasn't hot outside.
Last week was amazingly beautiful, all week long. Most of the week's temps were at 78 degrees! Had one day when it went up briefly to 98 degrees....then a coldfront came through and brought it back down to 71 degrees!! Very pleasant indeed.
As for the lanes breaking down gradually........NOT!!! They wouldn't let it happen! It was an absolute refrigerator in there all week long. I heard, and saw many a spectator complaining about how cold it was in there, and our spouses had to wear blankets the whole time we were bowling! Of course we didn't notice it much, but it was evident they wanted that shot to hold up!
[/quote]
That's nice. They must have had the ac on low while we were there lol. It was early April so that maybe why. I just remember thinking I'd hate to be here in June or July if it's this warm bowling in April.
-
We bowled the first week of May. It was in the 90's outside and mid 60's inside. The spectators had jackets, blankets, etc.
If I were doing it again, I would use more surface. I had a solid at 2000 and a solid at 1000. The surface helps the book hook in doubles/singles and controls the change of direction in team.
It didn't help that the 1000 surface ball had an interchangeable thumb break at the scale
room. I never got a good feel trying to add enough tape in that ball to use it.
-
I am so excited to head to my first Nationals. I am somewhat in limbo on what to bring. Right now taking 4 balls with my Hyper Cell, Impulse Solid, Primal Rage or my polished Legion Solid, and my Black Hammer. Anyone got any suggestions on what to take? I am somewhat a power stroker not really a cranker, PAP 5-5/8 1-3/4 up, speed around 15-17, rev rate around 400.
-
I am so excited to head to my first Nationals. I am somewhat in limbo on what to bring. Right now taking 4 balls with my Hyper Cell, Impulse Solid, Primal Rage or my polished Legion Solid, and my Black Hammer. Anyone got any suggestions on what to take? I am somewhat a power stroker not really a cranker, PAP 5-5/8 1-3/4 up, speed around 15-17, rev rate around 400.
Nothing with polish, it will just sit in your bag collecting dust. I used an IQ Tour Solid at 2000 grit for Team event and a 500 grit Menace for D/S events.
-
I am so excited to head to my first Nationals. I am somewhat in limbo on what to bring. Right now taking 4 balls with my Hyper Cell, Impulse Solid, Primal Rage or my polished Legion Solid, and my Black Hammer. Anyone got any suggestions on what to take? I am somewhat a power stroker not really a cranker, PAP 5-5/8 1-3/4 up, speed around 15-17, rev rate around 400.
Nothing with polish, it will just sit in your bag collecting dust. I used an IQ Tour Solid at 2000 grit for Team event and a 500 grit Menace for D/S events.
Oh okay. I mit just do HC(1000), Impluse Solid(2000), Legion Solid(3or4K), and Black Hammer(500).
-
I am so excited to head to my first Nationals. I am somewhat in limbo on what to bring. Right now taking 4 balls with my Hyper Cell, Impulse Solid, Primal Rage or my polished Legion Solid, and my Black Hammer. Anyone got any suggestions on what to take? I am somewhat a power stroker not really a cranker, PAP 5-5/8 1-3/4 up, speed around 15-17, rev rate around 400.
Nothing with polish, it will just sit in your bag collecting dust. I used an IQ Tour Solid at 2000 grit for Team event and a 500 grit Menace for D/S events.
Oh okay. I mit just do HC(1000), Impluse Solid(2000), Legion Solid(3or4K), and Black Hammer(500).
If things go the way I've heard, keep that Black Hammer handy for team.
-
I disagree on not having anything polished, my best look in doubles/singles was a 1000 grit Radical Rack Attack Pearl and a polished Radical Ridiculous Pearl