Post by: txbowler on January 29, 2010, 04:54:53 AM
Post by: michelle on January 29, 2010, 01:32:32 PM
Post by: Fishbowl815 on January 29, 2010, 01:40:33 PM
Post by: Dan Belcher on January 29, 2010, 01:55:04 PM
quote:The ones who want to be able to play 2nd arrow no matter what.
what bowlers complain? never heard of that before
Post by: Thunder835 on January 29, 2010, 02:08:14 PM
quote:quote:The ones who want to be able to play 2nd arrow no matter what.
what bowlers complain? never heard of that before
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Post by: Russell on January 29, 2010, 07:15:31 PM
quote:quote:The ones who want to be able to play 2nd arrow no matter what.
what bowlers complain? never heard of that before
What's funny is they won't be the ones complaining the most. It will be the crowbar kings that need the bounce right to get their equipment to come back.
I personally would love to see them make the pattern shorter one year around 35/36 feet.
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Post by: someguyintucson on January 29, 2010, 07:18:39 PM
Post by: MI 2 AZ on January 29, 2010, 09:32:11 PM
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I would probably throw splits and miss easy spares...oh wait...thats what I've done for the past two years at Nationals :/
That could be my post, except it would read ...past ten times at Nationals.
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Post by: Russell on January 29, 2010, 09:47:38 PM
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I would probably throw splits and miss easy spares...oh wait...thats what I've done for the past two years at Nationals :/
Yeah me too...I'm one of the aforementioned "crowbar guys" that shoots 1700 every year...I just don't complain about the shot
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Post by: txbowler on January 30, 2010, 12:36:36 PM
Post by: Russell on January 30, 2010, 01:08:52 PM
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I guess I should have been more specific. Does a long pattern shut out certain styles or make breaking down the lanes in team more or less difficult?
I think those with lower revrates would be punished a bit...which is most of the people that go to nationals. The tour doesn't have this problem because the lowest revrates out there are higher than 95% of league bowlers.
If you watch other people at nationals the majority are going straight up the lane on a 39 foot pattern...they would have no chance of carrying if they can get the ball to the pocket on a longer pattern.
That's just my opinion and I could be wrong...
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Post by: sdbowler on January 30, 2010, 01:17:42 PM
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Post by: JessN16 on January 31, 2010, 03:48:12 PM
It also felt like the volume was pretty low. It was a lot lower than I was expecting it to be, anyway.
Jess
Post by: laddog54 on February 01, 2010, 12:45:30 PM
quote:quote:quote:The ones who want to be able to play 2nd arrow no matter what.
what bowlers complain? never heard of that before
What's funny is they won't be the ones complaining the most. It will be the crowbar kings that need the bounce right to get their equipment to come back.
I personally would love to see them make the pattern shorter one year around 35/36 feet.
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Post by: Dan Belcher on February 01, 2010, 01:17:47 PM
quote:I practiced a little on the Nationals pattern at my home center before going to Vegas last year, and the difference in how the shot played at home (different brand of oil, AMF HPLs instead of Brunswick Anvilane) from Vegas was night and day. I need a lot more surface than I anticipated in the tournament. The breakpoint was about 2-3 boards further inside because my ball was not picking up as soon on the lane as it did at my home center. Even in the minor events on the burn, it still played tighter than I anticipated, and I ended up using a Gravity Shift sanded down by hand with Valentino's Resurrection, and still felt like I could have used a touch more surface on the second pair of lanes I went to that played a little tight downlane compared to the first pair. Conversely, I threw polished stuff at home center on the same oil pattern!
I've yet to bowl nationals but I've bowled on the Nationals shot 2-3 times. I've found it too short. So if it was lengthened, it would probably benefit me personally.
It also felt like the volume was pretty low. It was a lot lower than I was expecting it to be, anyway.
Jess
Post by: someguyintucson on February 01, 2010, 01:33:01 PM
quote:quote:I practiced a little on the Nationals pattern at my home center before going to Vegas last year, and the difference in how the shot played at home (different brand of oil, AMF HPLs instead of Brunswick Anvilane) from Vegas was night and day. I need a lot more surface than I anticipated in the tournament. The breakpoint was about 2-3 boards further inside because my ball was not picking up as soon on the lane as it did at my home center. Even in the minor events on the burn, it still played tighter than I anticipated, and I ended up using a Gravity Shift sanded down by hand with Valentino's Resurrection, and still felt like I could have used a touch more surface on the second pair of lanes I went to that played a little tight downlane compared to the first pair. Conversely, I threw polished stuff at home center on the same oil pattern!
I've yet to bowl nationals but I've bowled on the Nationals shot 2-3 times. I've found it too short. So if it was lengthened, it would probably benefit me personally.
It also felt like the volume was pretty low. It was a lot lower than I was expecting it to be, anyway.
Jess
Well put. My home house has 2 year old Brunswick Pro Anvilane and the practice shot was about 3-5 boards different than Cashman Center last year.
Did anyone practice at the Silver Nugget last year? That was a complete waste of time and money.
Post by: Motogp69 on February 01, 2010, 02:38:50 PM
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Why is the pattern never of the longer variety?
I don't know, but I really wish they would.
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Post by: MI 2 AZ on February 01, 2010, 09:10:22 PM
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I practiced a little on the Nationals pattern at my home center before going to Vegas last year, and the difference in how the shot played at home (different brand of oil, AMF HPLs instead of Brunswick Anvilane) from Vegas was night and day. I need a lot more surface than I anticipated in the tournament. The breakpoint was about 2-3 boards further inside because my ball was not picking up as soon on the lane as it did at my home center. Even in the minor events on the burn, it still played tighter than I anticipated, ...
Could the main factor be because the lanes in the convention centers are brand new vs however old the home center lanes are? Of course there are other factors like temp, altitude, oil machine, etc.
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Post by: r534me on February 02, 2010, 11:01:32 AM
quote:quote:quote:I practiced a little on the Nationals pattern at my home center before going to Vegas last year, and the difference in how the shot played at home (different brand of oil, AMF HPLs instead of Brunswick Anvilane) from Vegas was night and day. I need a lot more surface than I anticipated in the tournament. The breakpoint was about 2-3 boards further inside because my ball was not picking up as soon on the lane as it did at my home center. Even in the minor events on the burn, it still played tighter than I anticipated, and I ended up using a Gravity Shift sanded down by hand with Valentino's Resurrection, and still felt like I could have used a touch more surface on the second pair of lanes I went to that played a little tight downlane compared to the first pair. Conversely, I threw polished stuff at home center on the same oil pattern!
I've yet to bowl nationals but I've bowled on the Nationals shot 2-3 times. I've found it too short. So if it was lengthened, it would probably benefit me personally.
It also felt like the volume was pretty low. It was a lot lower than I was expecting it to be, anyway.
Jess
Well put. My home house has 2 year old Brunswick Pro Anvilane and the practice shot was about 3-5 boards different than Cashman Center last year.
Did anyone practice at the Silver Nugget last year? That was a complete waste of time and money.
Was the Silver Nugget where they had the BTM at? If so, I did practice there and it was a waste of time but it was cheap at a buck a game.
Post by: someguyintucson on February 02, 2010, 11:57:17 AM
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Was the Silver Nugget where they had the BTM at? If so, I did practice there and it was a waste of time but it was cheap at a buck a game.
Yep
Post by: txbowler on February 02, 2010, 02:25:07 PM
Post by: Bigmike on February 03, 2010, 08:00:32 AM
I don't recall getting inside of 10 until the singles squad when we were the third shift on the extreme burn.
quote:quote:quote:The ones who want to be able to play 2nd arrow no matter what.
what bowlers complain? never heard of that before
What's funny is they won't be the ones complaining the most. It will be the crowbar kings that need the bounce right to get their equipment to come back.
I personally would love to see them make the pattern shorter one year around 35/36 feet.
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