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Which Balls Seem To Work Best At Baton Rouge?
« on: March 23, 2012, 08:32:49 PM »
Trying to get some insight on what balls have had some success or at least a fighting chance at Baton Rouge so far. From what I've read most of the bowlers have been agreeing that a dull symmetric ball would have abit more room for error if you throw it just outside the 8 board (sweet spot), even if you get a nine count.  


 

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Re: Which Balls Seem To Work Best At Baton Rouge?
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2012, 09:23:35 PM »
 My brother shot just over a 200 avg with 2 track 300t's one pin down under ring at 1000 and the other pin over bridge at 3000. Hope this helps some i will know more when i get back i go next weekend.


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Re: Which Balls Seem To Work Best At Baton Rouge?
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2012, 09:48:31 PM »
Depends on the line you want to play. There is a great line if you get in and play the ball to 10 at the tracer down lane. The deeper your playing in the more room to miss you have inside of 10 and not go through the face. Its another option.

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Re: Which Balls Seem To Work Best At Baton Rouge?
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2012, 10:27:31 AM »
No.....
 
kidlost2000 wrote on 3/23/2012 7:48 PM:Depends on the line you want to play. There is a great line if you get in and play the ball to 10 at the tracer down lane. The deeper your playing in the more room to miss you have inside of 10 and not go through the face. Its another option.

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Re: Which Balls Seem To Work Best At Baton Rouge?
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2012, 11:31:08 AM »
Can you elaborate on that?  Why no?
 



Russell wrote on 3/26/2012 8:27 AM:
No.....
 



kidlost2000 wrote on 3/23/2012 7:48 PM:Depends on the line you want to play. There is a great line if you get in and play the ball to 10 at the tracer down lane. The deeper your playing in the more room to miss you have inside of 10 and not go through the face. Its another option.


"1 of 1." 


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Re: Which Balls Seem To Work Best At Baton Rouge?
« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2012, 01:00:03 PM »
i'll assume that's because that is one of the wrong ways to break this pattern down correctly. not to mention the flattest part of the pattern is inside. it's 39'. by design, the breakpoint is not going to be at the downlane marker.

to start, straighter angles thru the front & wait for it to open up. the breakpoint should be in the 5-8 board range usually. you never start off on these types of patterns by wheeling it. not if your trying to somehow work together with your teammates.



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Re: Which Balls Seem To Work Best At Baton Rouge?
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2012, 01:09:12 PM »
That is very true.  If memory serves me correctly, the range finder is the 10 board.  Only if you are deep enough and/or using pretty weak equipment, will you be able to use that as a breakpoint.  I have seen video from the USBC from people throwing from the 22-25 board out to the rnage finder and the ball struck.  That only tells a small part of the story though.



sport300 wrote on 3/26/2012 11:00 AM:
i'll assume that's because that is one of the wrong ways to break this pattern down correctly. not to mention the flattest part of the pattern is inside. it's 39'. by design, the breakpoint is not going to be at the downlane marker.


to start, straighter angles thru the front & wait for it to open up. the breakpoint should be in the 5-8 board range usually. you never start off on these types of patterns by wheeling it. not if your trying to somehow work together with your teammates.





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Re: Which Balls Seem To Work Best At Baton Rouge?
« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2012, 01:20:44 PM »
we all look & read everybody's comments & feedback to try to find the best possible formula that's going to work for you as an individual & then you try to apply it the best way with your teammates. the problem is, you only get one chance at it, then your team set is over. it's going to interesting when it's my turn, but as every year i'll do my best & try like heck to be a good teammate in the process.



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Re: Which Balls Seem To Work Best At Baton Rouge?
« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2012, 01:59:35 PM »
There is taper to the outside of the pattern, and it is DEAD flat in the middle.  Just because someone throws a ball across 5th arrow and strikes doesn't mean it's where to play.
 
You can throw a ball across 5th arrow on cheetah and strike using the 2nd range finder....but that pattern doesn't play there.  You can throw a ball up the gutter on shark and throw a strike....but that pattern doesn't play there.  It's all about finding area to miss, which isn't on the flattest part of the pattern.  The reason the US Open plays inside is because you want to keep it closer to the headpin and away from the outside.  I can guarantee you that every team over 3100 right now played right of 10 in the first game.  We all saw what happened to Steve Wilson and crew when they started around 3rd arrow.
 
Were you watching people in team event on the fresh or in minors?  You can't compare the fresh to the breakdown, we'll all be bowling behind different people in minors, so there is no way to compare the two.


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Re: Which Balls Seem To Work Best At Baton Rouge?
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2012, 02:08:32 PM »
Thats what I wanted to hear.  Thanks, man!
 



Russell wrote on 3/26/2012 11:59 AM:
There is taper to the outside of the pattern, and it is DEAD flat in the middle.  Just because someone throws a ball across 5th arrow and strikes doesn't mean it's where to play.

 

You can throw a ball across 5th arrow on cheetah and strike using the 2nd range finder....but that pattern doesn't play there.  You can throw a ball up the gutter on shark and throw a strike....but that pattern doesn't play there.  It's all about finding area to miss, which isn't on the flattest part of the pattern.  The reason the US Open plays inside is because you want to keep it closer to the headpin and away from the outside.  I can guarantee you that every team over 3100 right now played right of 10 in the first game.  We all saw what happened to Steve Wilson and crew when they started around 3rd arrow.

 

Were you watching people in team event on the fresh or in minors?  You can't compare the fresh to the breakdown, we'll all be bowling behind different people in minors, so there is no way to compare the two.


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Re: Which Balls Seem To Work Best At Baton Rouge?
« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2012, 05:03:55 PM »
That's pretty much my mentality when I go there next month is to help my teammates and not let them down in any way. This is my first year doing Nationals so I have alot of reason to bowl good but also learn from this experience. I think there's only two of us on our team that's bowling regular and I might be the only one that uses a dull ball in the bag. But on the plus side my teammates are for the most part straight strokers that plays up around the 10 board so the lanes won't be too broken down if we're playing around the same area. 
 
sport300 wrote on 3/26/2012 11:20 AM:
we all look & read everybody's comments & feedback to try to find the best possible formula that's going to work for you as an individual & then you try to apply it the best way with your teammates. the problem is, you only get one chance at it, then your team set is over. it's going to interesting when it's my turn, but as every year i'll do my best & try like heck to be a good teammate in the process.





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Re: Which Balls Seem To Work Best At Baton Rouge?
« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2012, 11:37:04 AM »
Russell keeping it real.  For most players keeping a straighter angle through the front part of the lane with surface to break them down is the way to go, especially on the fresh.  Some heavy hands can belly it a little bit, but you just have to make good shots.  They are playable, you just have to be smart


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Re: Which Balls Seem To Work Best At Baton Rouge?
« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2012, 11:44:53 AM »
I also 2nd that any team that shoot any numbers is right of 10.  If you ever watch a regional or national tour stop, during practice 90% of the pros throw grit up the gutter to give them help to right.  Then shortly after practice take a little step to the left, possible change equipment, and now you have a little help left and right.  Its not a THS wall by any means, but it isn't flat either.


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Re: Which Balls Seem To Work Best At Baton Rouge?
« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2012, 12:15:45 PM »
Will be my first time at nationals. Going with 9 other first timers, I will be the only lefty. I throw the ball very slow around 13 according to my home center. With revs in the 250-300 range(guessing). What would be a good ball choice for me to use? I currently have a shined up Mutent Cell and a Hammer Hot Sauce polished.

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Re: Which Balls Seem To Work Best At Baton Rouge?
« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2012, 12:43:25 PM »
I bowled earlier this month and you're spot on. In team and doubles we never wanted our break point inside of 8. In singles we were forced to play the down lane marker because the people we switched with played the break point  at 10-12 so outside of that was hang and inside was hook. Because of that we had guys between 4th-6th arrow depending on equipment and rev rates playing out to 9-10. And this was the 9:20am squad. I felt sorry for the people who had to bowl on that pair at 11:40am. In general I think 11:40am will be really burnt.
sport300 wrote on 3/26/2012 11:00 AM:
i'll assume that's because that is one of the wrong ways to break this pattern down correctly. not to mention the flattest part of the pattern is inside. it's 39'. by design, the breakpoint is not going to be at the downlane marker.

to start, straighter angles thru the front & wait for it to open up. the breakpoint should be in the 5-8 board range usually. you never start off on these types of patterns by wheeling it. not if your trying to somehow work together with your teammates.



 
Edited by al_g on 3/27/2012 at 2:32 PM