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Blue Sparkle GRYPHON
« on: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM »
Finish: Polished (1500)

Hardness: 75-78

RG: Medium (2.55")

Flare: Medium (.030" differential)

Length (1-10): 7.5

Back end (1-10): 9

Hook (1-20): 10 (oil) -18.5 (dry)

Avail. Wts: 13-16# (Gryphon core)
10-12# (on request - light wt. core)

Lane Conditions: Medium - Lighter Conditions

 

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Re: Blue Sparkle GRYPHON
« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2003, 01:48:26 AM »
This ball is awsome for when the green gargoyle is hooking to much because this ball goes so long u do not have to worry about the dry because it slides threw the oil into the dry and it acts like there is no dry spots at all so if u want a ball that goes long and hits very hard this is the ball for u. U can also  swing or play strait up with this ball it is a really good ball for sport paddern.If u get this ball u should get the particle gryphon so when that thing is hooking to much just pull out that blue sparkle gryhon and u will have no trouble with any kind of oil.So go get this ball if u want a ball that u will not have to worry about it hooking of the lane in dry areas.


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Re: Blue Sparkle GRYPHON
« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2003, 01:13:35 PM »
Another masterpiece by Visionary!!!

I drilled my Gryphon with my usual stack leverage drill pattern.  The Gryphon shows great length and very impressive backend reaction.  I've been searching for a ball that gives me that little bit of tug on sport patterns, and I found it!!!  This ball carries inside lines VERY well.  For me, it's not as strong when I swing it, but then again I have a couple of balls right now that are perfect for swinging the lane.  I still only have about 10 games on this baby, but absolutely LOVE it!!!  I will be buying more of these Gryhpons!

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Re: Blue Sparkle GRYPHON
« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2003, 06:00:08 PM »
WOW! I love this ball.  The only regret I have about trying Visionary equipment is that I didn't try them sooner!  
    This ball was exactly how I had read it was,  great on medium to lighter conditions with a nice rolling backend. This ball definitely does have a lot of forgiveness to it, especially if you miss in a little.  For me this ball has been absolutely perfect on house shots and short sport shots. It has also been the perfect compliment to my Green Gargoyle when I feel the Gargoyle is a little to squirty.  Overall, this is an awesome ball I would recommend to anyone!


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Re: Blue Sparkle GRYPHON
« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2003, 09:20:14 PM »
Ed Rondot of Ed Rondot's pro shop in Maplewood Lanes in Saline, Mi., drilled this ball for me. I'm a strocker with medium speed. All I have to say about this ball is, the more I throw it, the better I love it. Ed put the pin in my ring finger, and the CG, 4 inches from my axis. I throw it better than I have ever thrown any ball yet. I'm thinking about joining there test staff. My hats off to Visionary, for making a ball that doesn't over hook in the midlane. A very big thank you to Visionary and Ed Rondot.

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Re: Blue Sparkle GRYPHON
« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2003, 05:56:37 AM »
I have found this ball to be getting better and better the more I roll with it.  I throw right handed and usually run straight down and in when the pattern allows it (see my Charcoal Ex review).  I wanted a ball to expand my game and allow for me to deliver an across and in pattern.  Using this ball, I can come across at the 15-17 board out to 10 and have it come back reliably with lots of control.  I have fairly good arm speed, but tend to run with low revs (bad combination).  The Gryphon allows me to experiment with the line I throw without punishing me for “not rolling dead over my mark”.  It has brought 20 pins to my average easily.  Wish I would have come across this line of balls years earlier.
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Re: Blue Sparkle GRYPHON
« Reply #21 on: October 06, 2003, 03:37:44 AM »
With this ball, I drilled this ball with the same layout as the Granite Gargoyle and this ball compliments the granite on the house shots I bowled on with it. The Blue Sparkle is still at factory surface which give me excellent length and a smooth transition on the back end. Good ball Visionary!  I am really looking at getting one more and putting in a different pattern in the ball.
Need Backends! If the ball finds any and I mean any carrydown put it in the bag. With the backends de jour here in San Antonio, I can't get a true read on the backends.
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Re: Blue Sparkle GRYPHON
« Reply #22 on: October 23, 2003, 12:46:42 PM »
Ok, after putting some games on my Gryphon on various conditions I'll post my formal review.

The ball is 16lbs with approximatley a 4" pin out distance.  The drill pattern I went with on the Gryphon is 1:30 label, or 4x5 according to my PAP coordinates.  I also took the cover down to 800 to compliment my Crimson Ex better.

You guys can read up on Visionary's website for all the tech data about this ball, but here is what I've seen from it.

These tests were done on both lane surfaces.

Using the Gryphon during my Friday night second shift pattern, the ball gets through the used heads easily, almost too easy.  Sometimes I wondered if it was ever going to turn over,...but when it does WATCH OUT!.  This ball has major backend, it's not skid snap so much but very aggressive arching in nature.  If you're speed inconsistent this ball will be as unpredictable as 28 Days Later's four different endings.  However once you get everything in check, it is easy to lock in with the Gryphon.  My line of play using the Gryphon was slide foot on 36 sending the ball out to 15 as the breakpoint, and the ball had no desire to quit either.

On a fresh upper medium lane oil, the Gryphon again maintained great length through the heads.  This time however, since I was bowling on oil I reduced my speed some in order to keep the ball from sliding past the break point.  It still didn't quit on the backend, and turned over just as hard once it reached the dry.  (Some may have read my thread where I compared the Gryphon to the Carbide Bomb.)  My line of play was slide foot on 25 sending the ball out to 10 as my breakpoint.  I could even keep it tighter and stay inside of 15 if I wanted to.

As all Visionary users know, their equipment punishes the pocket each and every time.  Their add is also correct, calling the Gryphon the hardest hitting and best carrying ball they've made.  This ball will send airborn scouts, helicopter messengers, and other missile like projectile pins all over the place.

Overall it is very versatile with speed, hand releases, and lane conditions.  Once you get everything under control you can use the Gryphon just about anywhere.


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Re: Blue Sparkle GRYPHON
« Reply #23 on: December 29, 2003, 12:00:20 AM »
I got mine with a 3-4 inch pin between the fingers.  Like Visionary says it is a great medium oil ball.  Threw it on a couple different house shots, and it's great on medium oil, but not on dry.  When you hit the middle of the second game it starts to get to bumpy and jumpy.  This is a great ball if you can turn it up a little bit.  Since I drilled it with the pin between the fingers it really rolls.  My X-Factor was drilled the same way, but this is much better than that.  I really like this ball.  

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Re: Blue Sparkle GRYPHON
« Reply #24 on: April 23, 2004, 08:39:11 PM »
The Blue Sparkle can best be described as boring until you go to collect your bracket money or pick-up your tournament check. I drilled mine 4x4. This ball handles surface adjustments very well. The only negatives about this ball is 1) looks like a plastic ball   2) ball is soo smooth it looks boring.
The draw back to the Blue Sparkle is if your not careful while your using it you keep striking but also seem to keep looking for a different ball. The Blue Sparkle is the perfect benchmark ball. If you can't get a read of the heads,mids,backends and breakpoint(carry) then you don't understand how to read conditions.

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Re: Blue Sparkle GRYPHON
« Reply #25 on: October 01, 2004, 01:13:55 AM »
HE! HE! HE!!!
Have we got a winner here!
This is a great ball with a unique look on the lanes. 14 lbs with 2.5 starting topweight and a 3.5 inch pin. Pin is about 1.25 inches right of ring finger and just above finger height. The CG is just about .5 inches above and right of middle of grip. About a 5x5 for me.
Banana baby!
As some of you may know, I bowl without using my thumb and put a lot of revs on the ball with a lot of overall hook. Most balls hook too early and too much for me. Even most balls I like (Roto Retro) over under some. Balls that I have a problem with (Dry Heat), over under so much that they are useless.
This ball clears the heads with ease. When it exits the oil, it doesn't jerk left. It seems to pause, go straight for a few feet and then arc hard. This is the best ball to read the lanes that I have ever seen. I get an excellent read of the oil pattern and breakdown with the Griffin. It isn't a big hooker. It's a medium oil ball for me, but would be better on drier lanes for the weaker handed player. The hit is tremendous! Light, flush and slightly high shots all carry well and copious messengers are flying around! It also tends to leave a makable spare rather than splits when I make a bad shot. Lanes drying out? Swing it more. Carrydown? Tighten your line. If you have hand you could use this ball on all but the extremes. This ball controls the midlane and backend like no other ball I've ever seen and it still hits.
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I like to drill up a lot of bowling balls. This ball stays in the "A" bag. It is so easy to keep in the pocket and the carry is very good. I can't tell you how often I have struggled with a new ball in practice and shot a 180. Then I pull out my Blue Griffin for comparison, and I shoot a 230 on the same pair. The ball is too strong for really dry lanes and won't finish if A LOT of oil has carried down, but other than those rarely seen conditions, this ball is my current favorite.

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Re: Blue Sparkle GRYPHON
« Reply #26 on: December 22, 2005, 03:41:19 AM »
Having had a good experience with the slate Gargoyle, I decided to try another Visionary ball.

I bought the ball at the same time I bought a Track X-Factor and drilled both up together with the same pattern. The first time I took it out, I was a little disappointed. There didn't seem to be much hook in the ball and it blew past the breakpoint on every shot.

I put it up for a couple of months, but after my local house began to fall in love with dry lanes, I pulled it back out. Turns out, all I should have done to begin with was bowl more with it. Once I'd knocked the factory sheen off it, it came in nicely.

The ball has a massive backend reaction and clears the heads tremendously well. It's also maintained the integrity of its coverstock far longer than most balls I've used. The X-Factor I bought with this ball now has a distinctly dull look to it; the Gryphon still has that "polished solid" look it had on day one.

The strengths for this ball are medium to dry lanes. It's usable on wet lanes but that doesn't seem to be its strength. It has great recovery right and resists the urge to overjump if you tug it.

Corner pin carry is above average, and it really shines in the swish zone. I've tapped more 2-pins from the backside with this ball than all my other equipment put together. However, I do tend to leave more stone 8s and 9s than usual.

I also like its look; many seem to complain that the ball "looks cheap," but I don't share that opinion. I get asked frequently what kind of ball I'm throwing.

Overall, this was a great ball for the money and I'm now two-for-two with Visionary equipment.

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Re: Blue Sparkle GRYPHON
« Reply #27 on: May 25, 2006, 03:30:10 AM »
ok. i have about 9 games on this ball right now and all i can say is HOLY CRAP!!!!! y havent i tried a visionary ball before???? this ball is amazing! its hook potential rivals that of my killer instinct! reads the lanes phenomenally. this will stay in my bag forever! and will definitely be my benchmark ball! this ball is drilled just like my alter ego, minus the weight hole just like i had hoped. with the pin under RF and cg kicked right at about 45*.

overall: freaking amazing ball!!!! 12/10 i love this ball!!!!!

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Re: Blue Sparkle GRYPHON
« Reply #28 on: May 27, 2013, 05:44:31 AM »
LANE CONDITION

Length:42'

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Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): ths kegal scott street.


COMMENTS When i purchased this ball online from e-bay, I was curious about htis ball's reaction! I have the frankie may gryphon, drilled for more midlane reaction. And the g-3 pearl gryphon, what a reaction on medium oily, medium! But i was taken aback by the smoothness of the blue sparkle gryphon, on a medium to medium dry, "WOW" does this ball show what it can do! Even with the low rg core, it skids effortlessly down the lane and then it's smootly goes to the pocket! I've used this ball, in practice on saturday morning's in the "Bowl your brains out", where the kids around me say  :o what that ball go! For my money, if you can get your hands on one "Please" do so. You can't go wrong with this, on medium to medium dry. Unless you have a gladitor le! This ball is a good step-down from the g-3!

Likes:how it get's down the lane, turns then "BOOM"!

Dislikes: I wished visionary would remake some of there older equipment like this one!


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