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EXECUTIONER
« on: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM »
Visionary Bowling Products, LLC. announces the introduction of the
EXECUTIONER. The ball is available immediately and cleared for PBA regional
competition beginning January 12 and national competition January 15. This
new ball is equipped with a tweaked version of the Green Pearl Gargoyle
cover stock, but encasing a totally new - low RG core. When the oil is a
little too long for the Green Gargoyle, the Executioner will rev easier and
recover sooner than the Green Gargoyle due to the low RG and medium
differential. Color: Red Pearl; Hardness: 75-78; Low RG = 2.49" RG
Differential = 0.045"

 

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Re: EXECUTIONER
« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2002, 11:35:27 AM »
Hello , all I can say about the crimson executioner is what a ball !!  I drilled this ball friday april 26th before leaving for the michigan state championships in grand rapids, so I didnt have a chance to even throw it to see what it would do.  after struggling through doubles with a hammer wheel,monster screamer which both balls would not move in the oil ( shot 561 ) I decided to try the executioner in the tenth frame of the last game of doubles, 1st shot went flying away brooklyn picked up my spare moved 10 left to around  25 ,30 throwing out to around 5 at 45 feet and just smashed the hole. moved five more boards left with more fingers and shot  ( 290 , 279 , 237 = 806 ) in singles  the ball is 16#  3 " pin/out 2.5 oz top  drilled pin above ring finger cg stacked 12 oclock  no balance hole ( none needed ) If you need a ball that skids through the heads and rev's up on the back end this ball is it I would like to thank chris and the staff at buddiespro shop for getting the equipment the bowlers need out in a timely and proffesional manner   CAPTAIN HOOK
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Re: EXECUTIONER
« Reply #17 on: June 05, 2002, 11:51:33 PM »
Aaaaaaahhhhhhh yes, a truly special bowling ball.  I agree that this ball is not extremely versatile, but wow is it good when you get lined up with it.  It carries better than any ball I've owned.  I have the ball drilled to go long and snap, and it does all of that.  Soooooo clean through the heads and flips and hits very hard, yet predictable.  What a rare combination.  I don't get any over/under with this ball unless there's really short oil (then it just rolls out).  2 ounces top, 2 " pin touching my ring finger.  What a ball!!!

Update:  Still awesome!  Gets a solid A grade on this bowling scale.  97%
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Re: EXECUTIONER
« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2002, 03:31:27 PM »
i really like the reactive cover stocks more than the particle because you get more control and use out of them, that and the coverstock and the core go hand in hand to create a really good ball for medium oil.  The ball gets pretty far down the lane before it whips back into the pocket, a very predictable controlable shot. Its also forgiving. I stand in the middle and throw it out to the second arrow from the left (lefthander) with medium speed labeled drilling crimson executioner is a fine ball.

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Re: EXECUTIONER
« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2002, 07:36:39 AM »
First let me start by saying the people at visionary are some of the best people I have ever delt with. After choosing to join there test staff and speaking with them on the phone there is no dought this company cares about there products and the bowlers who use them.

Before I start my review, here are my stats. I am right handed, deliver the ball approx. 15 to 16mph, axis rotation is about 20 or 30 deg. average hand and play more down and in unless the lanes are dry then can usually swing the ball somewhat. My pap is 5 1/4" over by 7/8" up.

Now on to my review. I picked this as 1 of my four balls because of the low rg and medium flare hoping to have a ball that would rev up earlier in the mid lane and control the break point while still getting down the lane with ease. The ball had a 2 1/2" pin and 2.80ozs. of top weight. I drilled the ball 4 1/2" by 4 1/2", pin under ring finger, cg just below the mid line and no weight hole. The ball does just what I wanted it to. Using it in two houses, one synthetic and one wood with overlay in the first 18ft. the ball gets down the lane with no problem but does still need a little head oil, starts to rev up in the early mid lane, transitions smoothly from the oil into the dry, and gives a strong arc to the pocket. The hit and carry of this ball is awesome. Only thing I found confusing was as some others have said, this ball gave me less overall hook than the green gargoyle (review to come). Could be in part because of the drillings but either way the ball is exactly what I wanted. Contol, hit and carry. This ball is a winner in my bag.


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Re: EXECUTIONER
« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2002, 02:57:18 PM »
I've been a member of the Visionary test staff since last december and this ball is great.  I had it drilled on pin and it goes long on the lance, then snaps back hard.  It has great carry and is very useful on light to medium oil conditions.  I shot my high series of 689 and high game of 244 with it over the summer.

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Re: EXECUTIONER
« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2002, 09:16:28 AM »
My Specs:
   Right handed
   Med. Speed/Med revs
   10-30 deg tilt/ 10-30 deg rotation

Ball:
   Executioner (Crimson)
   3” pin
   15#
   3oz top
Drill:
   Stacked leverage.
   3- 6” of track flare

Lane conditions:
   House #1: 38’ med oil, OB 25’. Anywhere from 3 game to 30 games. League house.
   House #2 32’ heavy oil fresh to well used. Practice house.


   With this drilling the ball has a mid-lane breakpoint. The overall reaction of the ball is a med strong arc to the pocket.  The ball reads the mid-lane very well on med-light shots. On a fresh shot it jumps a little bit if you miss left. But it has great recovery when you miss right. You can take advantage of a short heavy wall shot with this ball unlike anything I have thrown before. 15 out to 5 bumping off the dry and it will turn left with a nice medium sweeping arc crushing the pins.
     When I use this ball I can count the number of washouts and tenpins on one hand. Due to slight tug in my game I leave more 4 pins than 10 pins. But that is me, not the ball. This is the second of four balls I have drilled from my membership. Bottom line is I would buy this ball again because it is the first out of the bag.  
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Re: EXECUTIONER
« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2002, 10:05:11 AM »
I recently joined visionary's "test staff", and I ordered a purple ice, crimson executioner, and an amulet.  I am very pleased with the combination of these three balls.  The amulet is an excellent spare ball, and should be great for very dry lanes.  The purple ice hooks a lot, and I have only used it for an entire 3 game series once (I shot my highest series of 764 that night)!  The crimson pearl has been great.  It goes long with moderate back end, and like the purple ice it hits the pins like a truck!  Both executioners are 15lb balls, because I am not the strongest guy in the world.  I highly recommend trying a 15lb ball if you are using 16lb equipment now.

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Re: EXECUTIONER
« Reply #23 on: November 14, 2002, 09:54:01 PM »
This is probably my favorite ball from Visionary. Great carry down the lanes. Nice hook into the pocket. This ball rolls much like the Green Gargoyle but snaps towards the pocket earlier. This ball does have a hard time on oily lanes. It can handle them better then the Green Gargoyle.

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Re: EXECUTIONER
« Reply #24 on: December 22, 2002, 07:16:02 PM »
Ball specs
Weight: 15.15#
Top Wt: 2.24 oz
Pin: 3"

I had this ball drilled stacked leverage (3 3/8 X 3 3/8) just like my Charcoal Executioner (CharX).  I wanted this ball as a transition ball for when my CharX reads the lane too soon.  The pearlized coverstock allows me to get through the heads and further down the lane with a strong backend reaction.  Just like its darker brother, the Crimson Executioner hits the pocket with devastating power.
The ball does lose some strength in the backend when it encounters carrydown, but other than that, this ball does exactly what I need it to do.  The Crimson Executioner is an excellent medium to medium-dry lane condition ball.  Another 10 out of 10 in my book.  My advice to anyone looking for new equipment, DO NOT OVERLOOK VISIONARY.
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Re: EXECUTIONER
« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2003, 10:33:33 AM »
Left Handed Bowler.
Heavy Hand type bowler (tend to snap wrist at end of release).
Axis rotation is up around 45 degrees.

Drilling: "Short Stack" (10:30 Leverage). Pin is next to left ring finger. CG is left 2 inches from center of palm. Counter hole drilled 3/4 diameter, 1 1/2 inches deep - 4 inches from center of palm.  

Lane Type: House shot (BRC-Cedar Creek).

I left the surface factory (1500 polished). I like to set up on the approach with my feet centered on the 23rd board, and have the break point at the 8th board. I found that this angle to be very effective. Unless there is another left-handed bowler on the pair, I do not have to move from this shot until middle of the 3rd game and typically only 1/2-1 board right to finish the game. I found this ball to be my 1st ball followed by the Green Gargoyle.
When I find the lanes a bit heavy in the front, I will move left to straighten the line towards the pocket, a more down and in shot (Feet at 17th board, break point at 9th board). However, with this straighter shot, I tend to leave more 7 pins. I will go to my Green Gargoyle in the same position but push the break point to the 5th board (the drilling is set up more snappy on the backends).  
When I find the lanes a bit drier in the front, I will move right to tighten the shot. I will try to have the ball stay in the center where the oil tends to be the heaviest and have little break in the back (Feet at 39th board, break point on the 15th board). I have to really work on release, otherwise I will leave nasty splits. If I find myself unable to "zero" in on my shot I will use the Green Gargoyle in the same position but send the break point out to the 10th board.

I recently joined the Test membership (Blue Sparkle gryphon, Purple Ice Executioner, Charcoal Executioner, and Granite Gargoyle). I just had the Purple Ice drilled like the Crimson Executioner ("short stack"). Once I have rolled enough games I will give a review.

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Re: EXECUTIONER
« Reply #26 on: March 29, 2003, 04:49:12 PM »
I bought both the Crimson and Charcoal Executioner a couple of months ago.  Previous to that, I had not bought a ball in 10 years.  Needless to say, my average and ball reaction has improved considerably.  Now for my take on the Crimson Executioner.  First of all, I am not sure on the drill pattern or pin placement on the ball.  I just had the guy drill it, it fit my hand nice, and I was on my way to bowl.  This ball always gets through the heads clean and has a high back end reaction.  I've never had a problem where the ball has taken off too early.  If the back ends are overly dry, then using this ball presents a tougher shot as I have to increase ball speed.  I would say that this is a good medium to dry oil ball.  The couple of times that I've encountered really oily lanes, I struggled to find a consistent shot with this ball.  I would rate it a solid 9 out of 10.  Comparing it to the Charcoal Executioner, I like it better.  I think has a more consistent shot more often and it has become my favorite of the two balls.  Anybody who is looking for a ball with a smooth path to the pocket and high back end reaction should definitely give the Crimson Executioner a try.

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Re: EXECUTIONER
« Reply #27 on: May 12, 2003, 06:09:43 PM »
Ive finally bowled on enough different conditions to feel confident in posting a review on this ball. this ball is the perfect transition ball. this ball fills the gap between the agressive reactive/particle balls and mild reactive balls. when the heads start to burn out this ball finds it way though and is plenty strong enough to cover the needed amount on the backends. however on a fresh shot i found this ball to skid a little to long but still finishes plenty hard. overall rating this ball as the first visionary ive ever thrown, i would give it a solid 8 out of 10.

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Re: EXECUTIONER
« Reply #28 on: July 09, 2003, 04:47:08 AM »
Wow this ball is great for them dry to oily lanes and wow i was impressed with the energy that ball had when hitting the pocket. When the lane breaks down and your other balls r hooking to much pull out this one and u wont have to move left because this ball goes long enough threw that dry area that u do not have to worry about it hooking off the lane and when it gets threw that dry, it has a nice steady arc on it that will give u that carry that u want and the power that u want to carry them pins when your other balls r not working.So if u want a dry lane ball, get this one u will be really happy with this one.


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Re: EXECUTIONER
« Reply #29 on: July 25, 2003, 02:55:55 PM »
Specs on the ball and me are in my profile.

I purchased this ball NIB from E-bay for a measly $65, and that was a steal for what this ball can do.

I tested this ball on two different conditions, the first was open bowling on sythetic lanes.  The condition was dry and pretty horrible over all, but I wanted to see how it would react to the drier since it was a medium to dry lane ball.  The second condition was on league conditions, where the oil is above medium and long with a ton of carrydown.

Well, this ball has an unbelievable midlane roll, and with the way I drilled it on the first condition the ball only went about 30 ft before it turned over.  Although this ball is very strong in the midlane for a pearl, the backend move FOR ME was smooth, controllable, and not over reacting.  The line I played with this ball was 35 with my feet to 10 at the breakpoint.  The strong Mass Bias allows my Crimson to come back hard with no loss of energy to pound and carry off the pins.

My leauge condition is where this ball truly shines.  I was dying to shoot with it on some oil for a change since I missed my last league night, and I'm glad I got to use it.  I started with my Blue Fire and it gave me an over/under reaction. (I suspected roll out due to particles)  Switching to the Crimson I shot straight up 10 just outside the heavier oil.  The ball glided through the heads, and even through the midlane now, but turned over due to it's strong MB.  The turn was similar on both conditions, powerful but not over reacting or violent.  For three and a half games I played the same line and never had to adjust with the execption of a little more speed.  I also shot my best in a few months, which now earns my Crimson the right to.....First Ball Out Of Bag!!!

Overall I feel it's a good medium oil ball, and could be used first to test the condition of the lanes.  It's too strong for light or dry, and it will also ignore carrydown if you shoot correctly.  A good piece for any Visionary fan looking for a strong but not uncontrollable ball.


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Re: EXECUTIONER
« Reply #30 on: December 13, 2003, 10:23:44 PM »
Good dry lane ball, pin between fingers which = roll.  Keeps hooking and rolling, never quits.  However, find oil put it away.  Good ball for a lineup consisting of only dull and medium coverstocks.

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