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Ogre Pearl
« on: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM »
Ball NPS Score: 100.00
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Finish:
 1500 Polish

Hardness:
 75-77

RG:
 Low (2.59")

Flare:
 Med/Low (.029" differential)  2-5" flare

Avail. Wts:
 13-16# (OGRE core)
10-12# (on request - light wt. core)

Lane Conditions:
 Medium

Color:
 Purple/Black

Coverstock:
 Eradicator Pearl - Reactive Pearl


 

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Re: Ogre Pearl
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2007, 01:57:31 AM »
15LB
2.5 OZ TOP WT
2-3 INCH PIN

The Ogre Pearl was my first Visionary purchase.  I wanted a pearl that would give me decent length, not too much, and good flip.  I had it drilled pin under my ring finger with the cg kicked out, with a flare increasing x hole.  i drilled it rather aggressive because i don't put a whole lot of hand in it.  I kept the cover at box, 1500 polished.  This ball delivered.  It went down the lane with good length and flipped hard.  I felt that this ball had good carry, pins kept flying.  First game with this ball I shot 298 at my trio summer league.  I am very pleased with this ball and plan to purchase more visionary.  This ball is good on medium lanes, although not a dry lane ball.  When it encounters oil, it does skid, but i did not intend to use this ball for oil.

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Re: Ogre Pearl
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2007, 01:58:06 PM »
Called Betsy a week after this one was released and ordered it up.

Ball Specs - 15 lb, 3 oz, 2.5 tw, 3" pin.

After drilling - Pin over bridge, cg out 2" from grip center with a weight hole.

This is the perfect ball to step down to when the Ogre solid is too much. The pearl gets down the lane nicely and with this drill, has a smooth yet strong move on the backend. On a fresh, medium oil shot, I am able to play up 12 out to 8 at my breakpoint and this ball just turns over very smoothly. No over reaction for me out of this ball.

When the shot breaks down, just move inside and this ball has the recovery to hit the hole, you just won't carry as well. When I move in and play deeper, often is the case that I leave solid 9's. It's strange that I carry everything but the 9 pin.

Overall, this is a fantastic ball to go to when the Ogre is too strong or when the lanes break down. It can be a first ball out of the bag, as long as you're prepared to play straighter. Straighter seems to carry better for me with this ball, but that will not apply to everyone.

Yet again, I am very impressed with Visionary and the high quality products that they make. Nice, smooth reacting ball with some pop. Another winner from Visionary.
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Re: Ogre Pearl
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2007, 05:30:22 AM »
15 lbs
3 oz top wt

Drilling: Pin over ring finger with CG kicked out.

I chose this drilling because I wanted something that would go long and snap hard on the backends, which this ball does. I kept the coverstock out of the box 1500 polished. Out of the box this ball is hands down the best ball I have ever owned. I think Visionary made a heck of a product and I look forward to the release of the new SS Ogre.

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Re: Ogre Pearl
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2007, 11:06:27 AM »
I got this ball about a month ago and have not had a chance to use it in a league or tournament until this past one. All I can say is wow, this ball is very forgiving. The only thing i did to the ball was polish it to a little higher gloss. I was looking for a little more length than oob and got it. Won a gold medal at Keystone games in my age division with a 682 scratch series, 700 with my handicap.
I would highly recomend this ball (and being on test staff).
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Re: Ogre Pearl
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2007, 06:19:18 PM »
My specs:
Left handed, ball speed around 16 MPH, rev rate around 300 RPM, axis rotation of around 60 degrees, and axis tilt around 30 degrees.

Since I’ve enjoyed my other Visionary balls so much, I decided to try the Ogre Pearl.  I have the solid (see review) and wanted the same kind of control and smooth “roll up” finish that it provides, but in a ball that would let me use it on the drier mediums and maybe even some dry conditions.  I drilled it up similar to the solid, with the pin 4.5” from the axis and about 1.5” off the vertical axis line and the CG stacked.  To make a long story short, it does just about exactly what I wanted.  On the heavier medium lane conditions, it is a bit “flippier” than the solid, but that is to be expected from a polished pearl.  On the drier mediums, it reacts exactly the same as the solid does on the heavier mediums and oily conditions.  It’s very smooth and predictable, with no “jump” off the break point.  Adjustments as the night goes on are minimal and simple, consisting mainly of “2 and 1” type moves.  None of this moving an arrow at a time stuff.  The Ogre line is a “down and in” player’s dream.  It also works fantastic on a “dry track” or “tube” lane condition.  You don’t see too many places that set out this kind of shot any more, but you get the same effect when you have a fairly solid coverage of oil to start, then play “blows a hole” through the pattern.  You get oil to the inside and oil to the outside, sandwiching a drier area.  This ball lets you play more down the boards, stay in the track area, and not have the “skid, hook, skid some more and try to recover” reaction you get when you cross boards on this type of shot.  I don’t have enough hand to give much of the pocket away with this ball given the lower differential numbers, but this could be just what the heavy handed player needs when everything else is too uncontrollable at the break point.  As I said with the solid, this ball just lets you live in the pocket shot after shot.  No tricks, no eye-popping break point, no “ooohs and aaahs” from the crowd, just lots and lots of dead flush with minimal adjustments as the night goes on.

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Re: Ogre Pearl
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2007, 12:33:12 AM »
I am left handed, speed around 16mph and a descent amount of hand.  My pap is 5 and 1/8th inches over and 0.  My Ogre Pearl is drilled with the pin just above the ring finger and the cg kicked slightly to the left.  The pattern I’ve tested the ball on is a medium length THS, dry outside of 5 on both sides, most oil concentrated in the middle and fresh backends.  The ball was left in its out of box condition, 1500 grit polished.  What I’ve noticed is that the ball is very smooth.  It doesn’t really have the skid/snap characteristics I would normally expect from a pearl ball.  Instead, the ball offers good length  through the heads and reads the mid lanes better than most pearls, especially at the mid-price level.  Yet, it still has the energy needed to carry the corners.  I normally stay clear of pearl balls due to their skid/flip tendencies.  I like a sense of control with my equipment.  Surprisingly, that’s what I get from this ball.  This was the one ball I was the most anxious to drill this year after receiving my membership.  For me, in league especially, the Ogre Pearl is my benchmark ball.  It’s the first out of the bag and it really tells me where to go from there.  Too strong, then it’s in the bag and replaced by the Blue Green Centaur, not enough then it’s up to the Frankie May or Immortal.  The ball is very responsive to hand changes.  I’ve played up the back with more speed and turned on it.  I haven’t seen any problems with carry from either angle.  I would say that the Ogre Pearl along with the Solid would be a great 1-2 punch for most league bowlers.  

I have to say thank you to Jason at VBP for helping me in selecting my arsenal and a HUGE Thanks to Doug Sterner for drilling them and helping with every other aspect of my game!!!!!
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Re: Ogre Pearl
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2007, 05:52:40 PM »
Got this ball as a test to see what Visionary has to offer and I'm quite impressed so far. I've always wanted to try Visionary but people always tried to steer me away from them and i listened. Not anymore. Ball is drilled 5.5"x75deg. pin under ring, my favorite drilling. Will get pic up later today. Ball carried everything from hi flush to light mixers and anything in between. Had front 10 for 289 in the first game with the ball. The two piece, coverstock and core (no filler), construction is amazing. About the only thing is it gets a little squirty on oil but this was designed for med-light so thats to be expected.
This will definatey not be my last Visionary ball as i want to try the AMB cores now. Having just switched to all Lane 1 equipment and they also carry very well, the Ogre Pearl might carry better. Once i get more games and actually use it in competition, I'll give a better review. Bowl Well Everyone.
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Re: Ogre Pearl
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2007, 04:49:11 PM »
This was my first Visionary Ball, and does it hit hard! Ball is very versitale and can play up the board or swing it for a huge hook. Amazing honor scores with this ball so far this season, shot (6) 700+ series, 288, 289. Amazing carry on this ball...Highly Recommend for any bowler!

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Re: Ogre Pearl
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2007, 05:29:04 PM »
This is one of my favorite bowling balls that I ever drilled! You can do anything with this ball. If I choose to play straighter I can, if I want to hook it I can, and anything inbetween!

Axis 5 3/8 x 1 up
High Ball Speed
High Rev Rate


Layout ~
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5 1/2 x 4
Surface ~ Out of the box



Took this ball out on one of the tougher house shots around and couldn't miss. I have had this ball now for about 3 months and it is my benchmark ball. Just recnetly shot 300 and 805 with it. What a GREAT ball!!

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Re: Ogre Pearl
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2008, 10:36:07 PM »
Like others have said not your typical pearl reactive ball. Drilled this up about a month ago have used it on several different lane surface's. Very good consisent reaction with this ball, whether i'm playing a tight line or a little swing shot. Drilled mine pin just to right of ring finger cg about 2 inches below kicked in about 1 inch, ball in box condition.Not as well as MVPBOWLER but i have shot several series between 710-740, and 2-279 and a 289 games.I feel this would be a good ball for someone looking for your normal house shot ball.
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Re: Ogre Pearl
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2008, 07:21:06 PM »
Lane Conditions: Medium Oil
Typical Conditions: Variety of Shots
Type of Lane: Combination
What part of the lane did you play? Second Arrow
Did the ball track out? Normal
Weight of bowling ball: 15
Surface of bowling ball: Factory/Box

Likes: Good length with a strong motion at the break point. Doesn't lose it's energy as the lanes breakdown.

Dislikes: Doesn’t work so well in oil conditions, wants to skid to far past the break point and when you apply surface it would still skid too far and be weaker at the break point.

Ogre Pearl is my favorite release by Visionary Bowling Products. The ball gets down the lane with ease and has a very strong and continuous break point. When lanes broke down the Ogre Pearl kept coming in the backend and didn’t seem to want to burn up even as the lanes dried up. I was able just to move in deeper and continue striking. Great choice for rev/speed equal players looking for a strong snap in the back end, rev dominate players may get an over reaction at the break point, hitting the surface with 4000 abralon would smooth that reaction out. Speed dominate players are going to see the ball get past the break point very easily unless they use it in extreme dry lanes, more aggressive layouts would be advised.

Weight: 15.0
Top: 3.0
Pin: 2 1/2”
Layout: 3 3/4 X 3 3/4
Side Weight: 3/4 Ounce Positive (No Weight Hole)

Comparing to what’s in my bag:

Angular One – 3 3/8 X 4 – 4000 Abralon with Ebonite Polish
Ogre Pearl got into a roll maybe 1/2 foot sooner, but wasn’t as strong at the break point as the Angular One. I had to move about 5 boards to the right to get back into the pocket with the Ogre Pearl.

Gladiator Pearl - 3 1/2 X 3 3/4 – Box Finish
Gladiator Pearl gets into a roll about 2 feet sooner than my Ogre Pearl, but the Ogre Pearl is a little sharper at the break point, overall the Gladiator Pearl recovers about 5-8 boards more but does loose it’s energy a lot faster than the Ogre Pearl as the lane breaks down.

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Re: Ogre Pearl
« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2008, 02:29:40 PM »
Great all around bowling ball, usually the first ball out of my bag reguardless of lane condition. reminds me of a pearl particle in many ways but is sharper on the backend.
This ball is great for med to light oil and should take advantage of any THS you run across. Fantastic all around ball, easily can be a benchmark ball, is is pretty smooth and easy to read the lanes with.

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Re: Ogre Pearl
« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2008, 03:48:48 AM »
My Stats:
Right Handed
Speed: 16-19 mph
Rev Rate Not sure

Bowling Ball Specs:
Weight: 16.05
Top Weight:3.71
Pin: 2-3
Layout of ball: Stacked Leverage
Surface of bowling ball: 1000 Abralon, Powerhouse Factory Finish Polish



Lane Conditions: House Shot
Type of Lane: Synthetics

Likes: Ball hits like a truck! I can use it on medium shots and on the 2nd shift.

Dislikes: (Not the ball's fault) By the 3rd game of the 2nd shift the lanes are pretty dry so I have to do alot of tweeking speed wise to get it to react still. Going to get the Ogre SS and see how it works!

I really like this ball. I've played with the cover on this ball a couple times. I've used this ball the most in my arsenal. Has atleast 60+ games of league and practice on it. Yesterday stuck it in the Revivor to extract oil and it hardly had any oil in it at all! But I do clean it after every set.
I really like the 1000 abralon/Powerhouse Factory finish combo on it. Ball moves well, and can play a variety of areas and its very forgiving.
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Re: Ogre Pearl
« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2008, 02:12:43 AM »


Lane Conditions:  medium oil / 2nd shift
                     Brunswick Pro Anvilane 5 yrs. old
Played 2nd arrow out to gutter
14 lb. Ogre pearl  Purlpe / Black
pin 2 - 3 inc
Pin position 1 inch from ring finger  center of gravity swung in toward center
of grip about 1/2 off center with approx. 3/4 side positive   Left handed Player

Great length with a very difinitive move to the pocket at breal point..
Hits very hard with great carry...
When the lanes brake down on the second shift this ball is a great ball
to have with plenty of carry.  All you gotta due is move inside and play the
big boys game and swing it.

Ball speed 14 to 15 mph  med rev rate
Left handed
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  and they don't include the 3 I got for my oldest Boy
I am using a Gladiator Solid, OgrePearl , and Centar
Particle....
I used to use Brunswick and Ebonite!!!