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Purple Ice Executioner
« on: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM »
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The Purple Ice Executioner is designed for the more demanding conditions in tournaments and "sport" leagues.  it is not designed to be a snappy ball or a monster hooker for that matter.  It's like a "urethane on steroids" and the best characteristic is CONTROL.  On spotty, wet/dry, or conditions with out-of-bounds, this ball allows you to play a more even and controlled shot.  While the competition is finishing around, you'll be able to play a more comfortable line with confidence and consistency.

 

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Re: Purple Ice Executioner
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2002, 04:47:18 PM »
Another awesome bowling ball by Visionary.  I have my 16 lb. purple ice drilled label leverage for a righty and shined 1000 grit.  This ball gets through the heads fairly cleanly for a particle ball, but not as cleanly as the red executioner.  It's very very smooth and predictable, yet hits like a tank.  It's a very even arcing ball.  I would say it's right in between the charcoal executioner and the red executioner in that it's earlier than the red, and goes longer than the charcoal.  This is the first ball out of my bad right now as I can get a good read on the lanes with it, and can always find a shot with it.  Way to go Visionary!

I grade it at 96 per cent.

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Re: Purple Ice Executioner
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2002, 10:12:48 PM »
As part of the Visionary test staff, I've agreed to give an update on my purchases.  I've owned this ball for a month and have bowled with it a total of 5 games at 3 different houses.  At this point I cant give a positive review.  I bought Visionary equipment to tackle the sport shot.  As of yet, I havent been able to do that.  The update I want to give is not about the ball being poor, its that I have it drilled with the pin an inch to the right of the fingers.  With this type of drilling on a house shot, it is hard to control.  With it having such a high flair and dull finish, the shot is Brooklyn halfway down the lane.  If I move left and get it out to the right, it rolls out before it gets back to the pocket.  We'll see what happens on the sport shot, but right now I would recommend a much more standard drilling for this ball.

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Re: Purple Ice Executioner
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2002, 11:07:20 AM »
Make your Competition turn Purple!

The New Visionary Executioner Purple Ice comes to us with the same great weight block design of the Red Crimson and Charcoal Executioners.

The New Particle Coverstock comes dull out of the box and it makes this ball Ready for Oil! But it is (Fully Adjustable) and very friendly when it comes to sanding or polishing! Adjustments are a snap with this one!

Our Test ball was drilled 3-1/2X4 Label Leverage and balance hole on the PAP at 6" from the grip center. We left this one at box finish for testing on our sport lane conditions.
As we rolled the first four shots this ball cut threw the lane oil with no problem! Strong predictable ARC to the pocket with a good "Angular" Backend hook finish! We found this ball to be VERY smooth to the break point, and even on our Heavy Oil Sport Shot, we could get great traction and control!

We moved over to the pair of lanes that were dressed with our Typical League house condition and immediately we had TOO MUCH cover for the lanes!
We made a quick trip to the ball spinner for a couple of passes of "Black Magic" and then back to the test lanes!
With the shinned cover we could easily get this ball down the lane and to the pocket with great Hit and Carry! The Polished cover gave us even more of an "Angular" backend finish! Keep in mind! "THIS IS NOT A SKID/SNAP BALL!"

It is Strong, and Predictable! Exactly what bowlers need today!
Those of you who want to see the True Power of a Visionary Ball, this one is for you! This ball will fill that need for a "Particle Ball" to get the traction in the oil, but not too much traction that it will bleed all its energy before it gets to the pocket! This Ball is a Keeper!

Those of you who have "Stronger" Releases,(Cranker Types!) keep the drilling pattern simple! or go for one that promotes good length!
Everyone else, just keep in mind that the coverstock and core combination here is strong! and it does not need alot of help!

We will Highly Recommend this ball to all bowlers and to Our Customers!

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Re: Purple Ice Executioner
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2002, 11:12:33 PM »
What can I say that has not already been said about this great company?  I drilled one up with a rev-leverage lay out with no hole.  I am right handed, low 3/4 track, around 15MPH.  This ball comes 600 Grit.  On a house shot this ball was horrible out of the box.  The ball rolled forever with massive over/under.  I took it into the shop, took the ball up to 800 & punched a hole and HOLY CRAP!!  This ball went 45 feet and turned the corner hard.  I mean real hard.  4 Leagues in 3 different houses and shot 689, 678, 642, 669.  The only down fall is corner pins.  I tend to leave more 10 pins with this ball than anything else.  But I also carry more light hits than any of my other equipment, so I guess it is a wash.  The ball gives good length at 800 Grit and great recovery in the back.  I am a tweener but I don't look like it with this ball.  I give it an 8 out of 10.

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Re: Purple Ice Executioner
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2002, 09:55:14 AM »
My Specs:
   Right handed
   Med. Speed/Med revs
   10-30 deg tilt/ 10-30 deg rotation

Ball:
   Purple Ice Executioner
   3.75” pin
   15#
   3oz top
   Slightly polished
Drill:
   12:00 stacked label drill. Pin over the ring finger.
   1 –3” of track flare

Lane conditions:
   House #1: 38’ med oil, OB 25’. Anywhere from 3 game to 30 games. League house.
   House #2 32’ heavy oil fresh to well used. Practice house.


   The good:
      The ball rolls heavy and controllable.Hits like a truck
   
   The Bad:
      The ball will loose energy very quickly if it rolls to much.

   The ugly:
      Pocket splits when it losses too much energy.

   One thing about Visionary, There ball description have been dead on for the first 3 I drilled. They say this is for over/under and sport and I have not used it on these conditions. This ball is not your normal grip it and rip it ball, It requires the right release for the right conditions. The ball is more sensitive to oil in the heads than down lane

   On a med oil shot you can stay behind it a let it roll. It hits great and carries well. If you have too much axis rotation if will not recover. If the ball doesn’t have enough head oil you will have to float the ball and come around it a little more. The ball is more of straight up shot type line. Unless you have monster hand I would avoid the swing shot.

   Bottom line on this ball is buyer beware. If you are looking for a league ball Visionary has better choices. If you have 2 or more releases and play a small line, this may be the only ball you need. This may be the most versatile ball and the most sensitive ball I have owned. If I were more consistent in my release and accuracy this would be my only ball for everything but extreme dry and extreme oil.


P.S. I had the ball redrilled 4x4 and scuffed back to 800. The ball is eveything they said it would be. the ball arcs nice and ignores the spotty conditions down the lane. as soon as my Gryphon becomes squirty I just reach for this and hammer the hole. This has become my goto ball on tough league nights when it becomes nasty on the backends.
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Re: Purple Ice Executioner
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2002, 06:45:10 AM »
Took some time to review this ball after reading all the posts about it so I could give an honest review of what I have seen. I got this ball from my test staff membership. Because of the specs and description of this ball I drilled it for my son as he was in need of a ball like this in his arsenal.
First a brief description of his style. Throws the ball between 16 and 17mph, can layoff the release or crank it up as needed. Plays anywhere from from 1st arrow to 5th or 6th. His best shot is around the 3rd arrow out to about the 8th board on his saturday morning youth league. He is right handed and has a very solid physical game.
Upon getting this ball I heard it was good for lighter oil in one review to heavier amounts of oil in another review. Decided to drill this 15lb. ball with a 3 1/2" pin with the pin over the ringfinger and cg in the center of his grip. Basically ended up 4 1/2 by 5 with the mass bias in his track for a hard arc reaction coming off the break point while still getting some length. Being what was described as a control ball I had hoped this would give him a nice even reaction while still retaining some energy for good carry.
Now onto what we got. After watching his first couple of shots on a medium house pattern we both agreed a trip to the spinner was in order. The ball in box finish, around 800 grit was hooking across the lane at about 35 or 40 feet. I returned the ball to him with a good coat of ebonite particle polish on it. Now he was in business. Ball got thru the heads with no problem, reads the midlanes extremely well, and gave him a smooth extremely hard arc to the pocket with a real heavy roll and great carry. The ball has a very noticable change of direction at the break point but does not jump at the first sign of dry. This ball is definetly not for dry lanes. It needs oil in the heads and mids to get it down the lane and can handle dry back ends with no problem and can come thru carrydown and still finish strong. When the heads go its time to move left and pick up some oil or put it away as the ball starts to become lazy and the hit gets soft.
Overall this is one exceptional ball and the first one out of his bag. I know some reviewers have had some trouble with there's but are results are outstanding. I have one on my list for purchase and would recommened this ball to anyone as I think anyone from stroker to tweener to cranker could find a use for this in there arsenal. Thanks for reading my review and feel free to email me with questions or comments.

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Re: Purple Ice Executioner
« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2002, 11:49:09 AM »
15#
Pin:3-4
T.W. 2.5 oz.
Drilling: 5.5x2 extra hole on PAP
Lefthanded stroker w/ low to med revs and med speed
Typical house shot: 38 feet with dry backends

I wanted this ball to combat the terrible over/under I was getting at my home lanes. With the box finish this ball hooked early and kept on going, so I started smoothing the surface in steps to try and get the reaction I was looking for. Right now I have it polished to 5000 with Storms diamond gloss, and although it gives me a skid/snap reaction, it has has found a spot in my tournament bag. This may be the hardest hitting ball I own...just not on the condition I got it for though.

Good Job Visionary

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Re: Purple Ice Executioner
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2003, 10:22:24 PM »
I have read many reviews and bought many balls, but this is my first review.  I normally wouldn't bother but this ball is so outstanding that I have to spread the word.  The ball is 16 lbs, drilled weak, and polished.  I am a high tracking stroker with about 16 mph speed, and average 208 in this particular league.  This was my first night out with it, so I really wanted to use it.  My first ball with it in practice I don't think moved 5 boards, so I put it away and went to my charcoal executioner.  I found a good line by the second game and shot a 249. The third game I started the first 5 frames out with the charcoal, but the line was getting blown out really quicky, so in the 6 th frame I decided to try the Purple Ice again.  I couldn't believe how easily this ball cleared the heads, and how controlable it was to the pocket..  I wound up throwing the next 3, then left a 10 pin in the 9th because I pulled it into the  oil. Then I struck out in the 10th.     I normally struggle when the track gets blown out, but this ball made it seem like I was bowling on a fresh block.   I have owned just about every ball visionary has made at one time or another, and this one is one of their best yet.  Their equiptment is usually fairly conditional, but when you match it up with the right condition there is none better.  If you are looking for a great go-to ball for when your hook monster is starting to role out or get out of control, you won't find a better ball than this one.    

   
 

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Re: Purple Ice Executioner
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2003, 12:58:49 PM »
I've had the purple ice now for a few months and figured it was time to write the review. I got the ball used, it has a 3" pin started with 3.0 tw. The ball was drilled with the pins above the ring finger and the cg stacked under it. Drilled a weight hole on the axis to promote a smooth roll and get rid of most of the side weight. Left the cover in box condition. What i wound up with is just what i wanted: a control ball. The ball is very smooth rolling, gets decent Length despite the 600 matte finish, and has plenty of hit left at the pocket. I do not believe you could get this ball to "jerk" off the dry if you wanted to. To some that would be a detriment but i found it to be just what i was looking for, something that gets down the lane but does not overreact. You would think the ball is a heavy oiler, because of the cover, but it is not. I have found it to be more of a med-med to med.-dry ball. And this is from someone with slower ball speed and tweener revs. The ball was a very pleasant surprise, especially after the conflicting reviews here and in the trade magazines. As other people has said, if you have never tried a Visionary ball, what are you waiting for, you will like what you get for the price you pay.

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Re: Purple Ice Executioner
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2003, 11:59:21 AM »
You should read my review on the Granite Gargoyle and the Gryphon before you read this.  

The purple ice is my last ball to review from Visionary.  It compliments my other balls very well.  In stock form it has too much cover for what I was looking for.  It would take off almost as soon as I let it go.  So I threw it in one of those polishing machines because the pro shop was closed.  I only put it in for 1 minute just to get a little something on the ball.  After that I was able to start using it.  It still takes off fairly early but as long as there is oil out there it would get through the heads and make a smooth hard arc to the pocket.  Now that I have been using it for a little while it has started to soak up some oil and now it holds longer before it turns.  I am actually going to clean it with a little dish soap and scouring pad and get it back to stock condition.  With all of the oil on it now it doesn't hook enough to compliment the Granite Gargoyle.  The Gargoyle is hooking about the same with all the oil I have on the Purple Ice.  I clean the Gargoyle every time I use it and I haven't cleaned the Purple Ice once as of yet.  I am sure once I clean it, it will be back to hooking more than the gargoyle.  Which is what I need in my arsenal.  With that said, this ball has got to be the hardest hitting ball I have ever used!  When it hits the pocket perfectly it just destroys the rack.  When its a little high or light it sends lots of messengers and carries more than the Gryphon or Gargoyle.   This ball basically rolls the same way as the Granite Gargoyle.  It has a very smooth arc to the pocket.  In contrast, the Gryphon has more of a snap to the pocket.  So when the heads are very oilily I use the Purple Ice.  Once they start to dry up a little I switch to the Granite Gargoyle.  The Gryphon is more dependent on backend conditions than the heads so I use that when the backends are just right.  I believe that if someone was to buy two Purple Ice Executioners, drill them the same but polish one and keep the other one stock.  They would have a good 1-2 punch.  This ball is very easy to control.  Its not a skid/snap ball.  It has a smooth arc that is controllable and consistent.  Just like the Granite Gargoyle.  It just seems to hit a little harder and hook more in stock finish.  Same as the Gryphon, the Purple Ice is condition specific.  It works great in heavy to medium oil.  I would assume that if you polished it, it would work a lot better on medium to light conditions.  So to wrap this up, the Purple Ice fits my arsenal perfectly.  If you looking for one ball for all conditions I would recommend the Granite Gargoyle.  If your building an arsenal then the Purple Ice, in stock finish, might just be what you need for oilily conditions.  I would give this ball a 9 out of 10.

Update: I have not used this ball too often in the past because I haven't found enough oil to require it.  This year I bowl in 2 different houses.  One is synthetic and the other is all wood.   I polished it to see how it would react on wood lanes.  In stock condition it would grab way too early and roll out.  After polishing it it got down the lane much better but it was still too agressive for the fairly dry backends.  The Gryphon and the Green Gargoyle work much better under those conditions.  I then tried it on the synthetic lanes.  Last year the lanes had a medium amount of oil.  This year the oil is much heavier and it seems to be oiled to the deck!  I haven't been able to get a ball to hook up well until the oil would break down in the third game.  The "polished" Purple Ice was going too long before it would hook up and had no drive to the pocket.  I tried it for a few weeks but it didn't improve.  I then took it back to the spinner and wet sanded it back to box finish.  Now it hooks up perfectly and drives hard to the pocket.  Even the Granite Gargoyle can't hook up in this soup.  So I am sticking to my original review.  If you need a ball for very oilly conditions then the Purple Ice, in stock finish, is perfect.  If you polish it, it can be used on a larger range of conditions but I have found Visionary has much better choices for light to medium/heavy  conditions.  I will be keeping the Purple Ice in stock finish and only use it when the lanes are soaked!  

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Re: Purple Ice Executioner
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2003, 04:21:22 PM »
Got his ball as part of my test staff membership.  As a suggestion from Visionary I just drilled this up as a label leverage drilling.   Ball had a 2 inch pin so I put the pin under my ring finger and the cg in the center grip.  Hit the cover with 800 grit polish.  This ball is very even and controllable.  The move on the backend is so smooth its unbelievable.  The ball is made for sport conditions and over under and performs very well.  As with my other visionary balls the hit is amazing.  If your looking for a good sport shot ball or tournament ball this should be your number 1 choice.

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Re: Purple Ice Executioner
« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2003, 05:34:18 PM »
I have had this ball for a while now and felt it was time to review it.  It is 16lbs with a 2-3 inch pin and is drilled with a 4x4 layout.  I left it in out of the box condition.  As stated by others, this ball is condition specific.  Visionary has a number of better choices for use during league play, but on any tougher patterns this ball cant be beat.
 


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Re: Purple Ice Executioner
« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2003, 04:49:24 PM »
AWESOME BALL....on wet lanes only. As its counterpart is the green gargoyle, this ball rolls about midlane and makes a U-turn. Playing striaght up is your best bet for this ball, if you swing it, you will still hit the pocket, but not as much driving power as playing up the boards. Still a great ball to use!! Would recomend to all bowlers, also is a great ball for a long sport shot for all you pros.

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Re: Purple Ice Executioner
« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2003, 07:05:36 PM »

This ball is big!  A lot of oil is good, but it also works well when the lanes break down.  It can create a zone when other balls cant.  It starts hooking early and then snaps hard.  It loves to carry light hits and leave the 4 pin on the slightest bit of a high shot.  I have to swing this ball it hooks so much.  It is good for low rev bowlers.