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Matt C

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2 new Ravens
« on: August 18, 2015, 12:44:53 PM »
2 New Ravens just hit the Approved list. (PDF... main list is not updated yet.  so no pics till the main list is updated)

Raven Attack

Raven Invasion

Time to beat up Jason for some Intel... :)
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JamminJD

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Re: 2 new Ravens
« Reply #61 on: September 26, 2015, 04:45:59 PM »
I'll agree it's the only thing out there. You are absolutely entitled to your opinion, as am I. But if you put it out there, don't automatically expect everybody to agree with you, unless you're a liberal of course...  :)
I'm not saying you have to agree with me, just thought the video was good considering and the only one at the moment. I appreciated the poster who found it for posting it thats all. Now, not going to go tit for tat here. Let's discuss the Ravens. :)

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Re: 2 new Ravens
« Reply #62 on: September 27, 2015, 10:30:15 AM »

Got my Invasion Friday as well, let us know how it goes and the drilling..
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Went with a different layout than normal, 60 x 3 1/2 x 20.  My pro said the ball had a very dense feel as he was drilling into it.  Will give it a try tonight.

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll178/PBAJS/Raven%20Invasion_zpsvvewmumr.jpg

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Re: 2 new Ravens
« Reply #63 on: September 27, 2015, 12:09:14 PM »

Got my Invasion Friday as well, let us know how it goes and the drilling..

Went with a different layout than normal, 60 x 3 1/2 x 20.  My pro said the ball had a very dense feel as he was drilling into it.  Will give it a try tonight.

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll178/PBAJS/Raven%20Invasion_zpsvvewmumr.jpg
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My ball driller has said that numerous times about Visionary balls.  The cover stocks are much thicker than a lot of the other companies' balls and not as much filler.

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Re: 2 new Ravens
« Reply #64 on: September 27, 2015, 01:46:17 PM »
Yeah my driller complains everytime he has to drill my Visionary. He always says he should charge me for sharpening.lol

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Re: 2 new Ravens
« Reply #65 on: September 27, 2015, 04:14:55 PM »
Looks like its overseas of course so the alleys, conditions arent gonna be the same as here in the states. Nice looking roll on the ball.

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Re: 2 new Ravens
« Reply #66 on: September 27, 2015, 05:03:31 PM »
I'll agree it's the only thing out there. You are absolutely entitled to your opinion, as am I. But if you put it out there, don't automatically expect everybody to agree with you, unless you're a liberal of course...  :)
Sort of like every time you post asking someones opinion and dont get the answer you want to hear?

Matt C

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Re: 2 new Ravens
« Reply #67 on: September 28, 2015, 02:13:07 PM »
Yeah my driller complains everytime he has to drill my Visionary. He always says he should charge me for sharpening.lol


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Re: 2 new Ravens
« Reply #68 on: September 28, 2015, 07:33:45 PM »
Went and bowled 5 practice games today and took the Invasion (60 x 3 1/2 x 20), Vandal (85 x 3 x 20) and Respect (60 x 5 1/2 x 30).  Pair was a fresh 40' THS.

First impression was that this ball sounds different at the pins.  For those of you that used old AZO or Lane Masters equipment, that is what it sounded like.  A definite "crack" sound.  With the layout I decided to use, this ball is very strong on the backend.  I was 5 to 7 left with my feet and 3 with my eyes from the Vandal. I was able to line up almost the same with the Invasion and the Respect.  They both got to the pocket but went about it very different.  The Respect started up sooner and was more rolly where the Invasion was much longer and stronger.  One thing I noticed was that the Respect didn't have the forgiveness with release errors that I seemed to get with the Invasion.  This may be attributed to the layout on the Respect but if I didn't catch it right at the bottom it would not make it to the pocket.  The Invasion, on the other hand, I had no worries at all that this ball would not hook back.  Can't wait to get back on the lanes and throw this ball some more.

Matt....when you get to do your video I hope you do some comparison between the Invasion and the original Raven with the light particle load.  Would love to see how they compare.

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Re: 2 new Ravens
« Reply #69 on: September 28, 2015, 07:42:07 PM »
Went and bowled 5 practice games today and took the Invasion (60 x 3 1/2 x 20), Vandal (85 x 3 x 20) and Respect (60 x 5 1/2 x 30).  Pair was a fresh 40' THS.

First impression was that this ball sounds different at the pins.  For those of you that used old AZO or Lane Masters equipment, that is what it sounded like.  A definite "crack" sound.  With the layout I decided to use, this ball is very strong on the backend.  I was 5 to 7 left with my feet and 3 with my eyes from the Vandal. I was able to line up almost the same with the Invasion and the Respect.  They both got to the pocket but went about it very different.  The Respect started up sooner and was more rolly where the Invasion was much longer and stronger.  One thing I noticed was that the Respect didn't have the forgiveness with release errors that I seemed to get with the Invasion.  This may be attributed to the layout on the Respect but if I didn't catch it right at the bottom it would not make it to the pocket.  The Invasion, on the other hand, I had no worries at all that this ball would not hook back.  Can't wait to get back on the lanes and throw this ball some more.

Matt....when you get to do your video I hope you do some comparison between the Invasion and the original Raven with the light particle load.  Would love to see how they compare.


Sounds like there wasn't enough oil for the Respect compared to the Invasion, as if it were grabbing the midlane too early to use. It is a hybrid with a much lower RG than the Invasion.
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Re: 2 new Ravens
« Reply #70 on: September 28, 2015, 08:52:22 PM »
My part of the video is shot.  Todd jacked up his ankle thurs night.  Should be able to do his tomorrow.  U mmmmm with the software I use comparison shots are hard but I'll see what I can do
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Re: 2 new Ravens
« Reply #71 on: October 15, 2015, 09:27:08 AM »
Any test staffers hear when the Attack will be released?

JamminJD

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Re: 2 new Ravens
« Reply #72 on: October 15, 2015, 09:56:07 AM »
Any test staffers hear when the Attack will be released?
Jason said last week they are behind on the pours for the Invasion and he hope to get the Attack out in a couple of weeks...

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Re: 2 new Ravens
« Reply #73 on: October 15, 2015, 01:48:22 PM »
Any test staffers hear when the Attack will be released?
Jason said last week they are behind on the pours for the Invasion and he hope to get the Attack out in a couple of weeks...



Thanks, I'll patiently wait.
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JamminJD

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Re: 2 new Ravens
« Reply #74 on: October 15, 2015, 02:01:44 PM »
Any test staffers hear when the Attack will be released?
Jason said last week they are behind on the pours for the Invasion and he hope to get the Attack out in a couple of weeks...

Thanks I'll patiently wait.
Your Welcome,If I here anything sooner I will let you know. I really like my Invasion cant wait to see what the Attack can do!!

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Re: 2 new Ravens
« Reply #75 on: October 22, 2015, 01:23:34 AM »
Just got the flyer on the Raven Attack.  Starts shipping Oct 26th.

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