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Title: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: gsback on November 13, 2008, 06:23:34 AM
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk113/gary_lum/newbreed.jpg

2 versions which were already stated...Solid and Pearl.

Ball should roll up about the same as the Gladiators, but with a good 3-4 more boards on the backends!!

Looks like I know what Santa needs to bring me a little early!!    Anyone else????

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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: livespive on November 13, 2008, 02:30:13 PM
If the Gladiators are about the same as the Executioners, I think I may stick with them.

I am still grieving over the loss of the executioner line lol

I will have to wait until I see a picture of the core, that will do it for me.
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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: gsback on November 13, 2008, 03:02:02 PM
quote:
I will have to wait until I see a picture of the core, that will do it for me.


Must....re....sist......must...re...sist!!  LOL!!!

Never had the Executioner.....though Spike was supposed to trade me a Charcoal that mysteriously went somewhere else....for a Hammer I think!!  Wow....talk about a slap!!
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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: jkiser01 on November 13, 2008, 03:42:35 PM
gsback,

thats just what you need, 2 more balls!!

I don't see any resistance at all.. LOL!!

I also can't believe what I am seeing... You slamming your old ball company.. My how quickly things change.. LOL!!


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Edited on 11/13/2008 4:44 PM
Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: gsback on November 13, 2008, 03:59:16 PM
quote:
I also can't believe what I am seeing... You slamming your old ball company.. My how quickly things change.. LOL!!


Nope Jim....the slap was that he traded it without sending it my way.
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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: jkiser01 on November 13, 2008, 04:02:57 PM
ahh... I get it now..
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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: gsback on November 13, 2008, 04:08:16 PM
On the positive....I am not going wild like I did many years ago....buying everything that was Hammer.  Trying to be a little more conservative this time.  I think I'll blame you for my buying binge as a matter of fact!!  LOL!!  It was when we started bowling together, after all!!  
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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: witesoxwoz22 on November 13, 2008, 06:20:00 PM
I can't wait for the Chupacabra line to come out.  Well, thats what the pic makes me think of.
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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: MarkinCincy on November 13, 2008, 07:47:55 PM
So is this a new Gryphon or is this an entirely new line?

Mark
Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: charlest on November 13, 2008, 07:55:13 PM
quote:
So is this a new Gryphon or is this an entirely new line?

Mark


it's a new line, as far as I have heard.
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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: noturcuzin on November 13, 2008, 07:57:31 PM
maybe a dragon line?
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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: MC on November 13, 2008, 10:15:56 PM
Bowl.com has not updated approved ball list since 11/1/08. Was hoping to see them listed by now.
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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: scotts33 on November 14, 2008, 05:24:25 AM
quote:
Bowl.com has not updated approved ball list since 11/1/08. Was hoping to see them listed by now.
 


I've been checking it just about everyday....it ain't happenen' til it's on that list.  Figured with the TX move USBC might not get it on as fast as they would if in WI....everything happens slower in TX.    

 
quote:
So is this a new Gryphon or is this an entirely new line?


New line to replace the Immortal line since Immortals can be no longer produced.  High differential though just under the limits.  It will be interesting to see the new core.
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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: Spike2112 on November 14, 2008, 06:13:07 AM
quote:
Never had the Executioner.....though Spike was supposed to trade me a Charcoal that mysteriously went somewhere else....for a Hammer I think!! Wow....talk about a slap!!



For the record G, traded that Charcoal for a Slate Blue, which has turned out to be a great trade for me!


Spike
Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: livespive on November 14, 2008, 06:59:14 AM
Looks like it might be time to order a case
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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: Charles on November 14, 2008, 07:22:46 AM
quote:
quote:
Never had the Executioner.....though Spike was supposed to trade me a Charcoal that mysteriously went somewhere else....for a Hammer I think!! Wow....talk about a slap!!



For the record G, traded that Charcoal for a Slate Blue, which has turned out to be a great trade for me!


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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: Nor Cal Bowler on November 14, 2008, 07:46:33 AM
New Scorchers ( dragon in ad, new breed)?
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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: bigsexyhammer on November 14, 2008, 08:02:59 AM
Oh man, I KNEW it was going to be Dragons... sweet.
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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: kalannar on November 14, 2008, 08:14:59 AM
If it is a dragon theme, I might have to get one. I love Lane #1 but also like Visionary. And I love dragons. Can't wait to see what the core and cover are.

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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: getuaload on November 14, 2008, 08:20:39 AM
I remember when Visionary/Faball made Champions , they had 2 dragons. I really liked the green dragon.
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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: dizzyfugu on November 14, 2008, 08:26:05 AM
Burn baby, burn!
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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: Nor Cal Bowler on November 14, 2008, 08:33:23 AM
well thats my guess. i dont know, just looking forward to whatever it is!
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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: mainzer on November 14, 2008, 08:54:47 AM
I am interested
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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: Oskuposer on November 14, 2008, 09:09:49 AM
dizzy thats inferno lol Big B This is for the BIG V
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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: mrbowlingnut on November 14, 2008, 09:40:56 AM
Hmmm interesting I heard this line was pushed back into next year because it was not upto snuff, guess they got the tweak fixed that was needed.

This was on the high performance line so maybe this is a different line, who knows just know what was floating around within the last 3-4 weeks.
Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: gsback on November 14, 2008, 10:12:15 AM
Bump for more thought??

I've heard the colors are an interesting combination to say the least.....will have to see.

The balls are a new line, but in terms of what Visionary does....and this is my interpretation....they find holes their lineup has and fills them.  If the Immortals can't be replaced, then there is a need to be filled.

Not sure what else I can say.....will be very interesting!!  


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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: mainzer on November 14, 2008, 11:40:47 AM
I checked the approved list and nothing yet. This maybe the line from VBP I try.
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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: scotts33 on November 14, 2008, 11:47:03 AM
quote:
I checked the approved list and nothing yet. This maybe the line from VBP I try.
 


Because you are speed dominant I'd say you might match up better than most mainzer.  

As far the dragon thingy....NorCal and getu pointed out correctly that the Scorchers used a dragon logo.
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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: Nor Cal Bowler on November 14, 2008, 02:01:04 PM
quote:
quote:
I checked the approved list and nothing yet. This maybe the line from VBP I try.
 


Because you are speed dominant I'd say you might match up better than most mainzer.  

As far the dragon thingy....NorCal and getu pointed out correctly that the Scorchers used a dragon logo.
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Honestly I love the cover on the Midnight Scorcher. I wish they would use it again...
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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: jbuzz31 on November 15, 2008, 07:47:59 AM
is jason going to chime in?  or keep everybody ansy in the pantsy  lol
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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: gsback on November 16, 2008, 06:33:26 AM
I think when it's time Jason will probably chime in and make it worse!!  LOL!!!
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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: dizzyfugu on November 16, 2008, 06:59:43 AM
I'd expect a high differential core - that's what's really missing with the Immortals but also the Centaur core gone. As an idea, why change a winning team? Just put the React-A-Tack coverstock around a core with 0.06" RG diff., and Visionary will have a winner (again)! Emerald green and black solid... white and yellwo engravings... Enter the dragon
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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: Teej7753 on November 16, 2008, 11:39:26 PM
HAHA YES Can't wait!! Santa I know what i Want!!! Cause i love my crimson executioner and it is getting a little old hope its a cool new color too i am stoked to see one now
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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: scotts33 on November 17, 2008, 05:26:22 AM
quote:
is jason going to chime in? or keep everybody ansy in the pantsy lol



Jason already did ----> http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?TopicID=217524&ForumID=15&CategoryID=2

No sense stirring the pot til they are ready to manufacturer and ship.  Cuz it ain't gonna happen til it's ready.

In reality most of us don't bowl on league shots or are fluffer types that can use these hook monsters.  I say most there are a few.  
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On edit:  FYI.....saw this on the MoRich site....assume this is also indicative with the new line of balls from Visionary....so that explains some things....but I thought that with the move to TX by the USBC.

"Note: USBC has notified MoRich that due to recent issues with moving their servers to their new HQ that access to the approved ball list is not currently available. USBC notified MoRich that on Nov 13, the LevRG RESPONSE was APPROVED for USBC competition. They apologize for the inconvenience."



Edited on 11/17/2008 10:59 AM
Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: MC on November 18, 2008, 11:20:50 AM
WOO HOO!
It is offical. http://www.bowl.com/Downloads/pdf/approved_ball_list/new_ball_list.pdf

OK Jason, get us updated.
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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: BShep on November 18, 2008, 11:36:09 AM
Ogre Urethane also on the list.  Nice!
Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: mainzer on November 18, 2008, 11:42:53 AM
quote:
Ogre Urethane also on the list.  Nice!


oh yeah at least two VBP balls will be in my bag next season
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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: mrbowlingnut on November 18, 2008, 12:00:10 PM
Curious to see this ball in motion so fast after hearing it was a no go only weeks ago??? Is Britton getting this ball soon for video Mr. Wonders????
Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: MC on November 18, 2008, 12:00:23 PM
quote:
Ogre Urethane also on the list.  Nice!

I was so excited about the New Breeds, I missed this.
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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: pegleg42090 on November 18, 2008, 12:13:34 PM
never threw visionary before.. but their new releases seem to be interesting
Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: VBPadvertising on November 18, 2008, 12:18:15 PM
OK boys and girls......the information is coming very very soon....  There is no point in telling you guys that we did receive approval since they already posted it....but I will tell you that we are releasing it quickly because we want it ready for the Christmas rush.

In addition, I can tell you right now that we are releasing both the solid and the pearl new breeds at the same time.  I will have alot more info for everyone tomorrow.

PS....Even though we had to make modifications to our original design, this ball is just as good or better than our original!

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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: Nor Cal Bowler on November 18, 2008, 12:20:46 PM
Well there are 3 new balls I need to get!

My guess is the ogre urethane will be a Pearl...
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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: VideoBallReviews on November 18, 2008, 01:16:05 PM
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Curious to see this ball in motion so fast after hearing it was a no go only weeks ago??? Is Britton getting this ball soon for video Mr. Wonders????


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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: rymacatthedisco on November 18, 2008, 01:24:51 PM
i hope its pearl, i need a urethane and i cant find a slate blue NIB anywhere in a decent price and the liberator from lane 1 is just ridiculous at 800 grit and hooks way to much in the front
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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: gsback on November 18, 2008, 05:25:27 PM
Ryan,

If you go back to some posts made by Jason, I think he talked about that and what the thoughts were for the ball....though that could easily have changed by now.
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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: mainzer on November 18, 2008, 10:05:09 PM
Can I pose a question here? If the New Gladiators are the new highend line from VBP What is going to happen to them when the New Breed comes out? Galdiators be discontinued? I would find that hard to beleive or would the Gladiators replace the first two Ogres?

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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: Nor Cal Bowler on November 18, 2008, 10:58:21 PM
It will probably be as follows in no particular order...

Gladiator Line
New Breed Line
Gryphons
Ogre Line

The Gladiators and New Breed replace the immortals and AMB centaurs in the line up cause they can no longer be produced.


quote:
Can I pose a question here? If the New Gladiators are the new highend line from VBP What is going to happen to them when the New Breed comes out? Galdiators be discontinued? I would find that hard to beleive or would the Gladiators replace the first two Ogres?

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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: scotts33 on November 19, 2008, 05:19:19 AM
quote:
Can I pose a question here? If the New Gladiators are the new highend line from VBP What is going to happen to them when the New Breed comes out? Galdiators be discontinued? I would find that hard to beleive or would the Gladiators replace the first two Ogres?  


mainzer,

This is the way I see it.

Gladiators replaced the Executioner line and have same basic ball motion as they did.  

New Breed will replace Immortal line and AMB Centaur. Ball for floods now is Ogre Particle.

So from most hooking to least.

New Breed
Gryphon
Gladiator
Ogre
B/G Centaur and Urethane Ogre

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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: dizzyfugu on November 19, 2008, 05:28:22 AM
quote:
Ogre Urethane also on the list.  Nice!


That's GOOD news. Not that I'd need it - my SBG might last eternally - but nice to see that this amrket niche will be filled again!
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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: gsback on November 19, 2008, 10:48:20 AM
I am in agreement with Scott in terms of where the New Breed falls into the current lineup.

Based on it reading the same as the Gladiators and having 3-4 boards more punch...definitely!!
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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: Nor Cal Bowler on November 19, 2008, 03:45:42 PM
I just want to see the differential and RG numbers for the balls. That is what Im curious about. I have both gladiators but neither are punched up yet...
Gary,

Where are you seeing this info from out of curiosity?

Thanks!
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I am in agreement with Scott in terms of where the New Breed falls into the current lineup.

Based on it reading the same as the Gladiators and having 3-4 boards more punch...definitely!!
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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: icewall on November 19, 2008, 06:43:01 PM
I believe he is saying this because they will replace both the immortals and amb line.

basically a high flare and high performance line. IMO there is a need to fill that gap for those that need/want a ball that will flare a good amount as even my gladiator doesnt flare a whole lot and its drilled to increase flare.

something along the lines of the immortal solid or amb solid/bronze would be just great.
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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: scotts33 on November 19, 2008, 11:14:49 PM
quote:
I believe he is saying this because they will replace both the immortals and amb line.

basically a high flare and high performance line. IMO there is a need to fill that gap for those that need/want a ball that will flare a good amount as even my gladiator doesnt flare a whole lot and its drilled to increase flare.

something along the lines of the immortal solid or amb solid/bronze would be just great.


Perfect icewall.

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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: gsback on November 20, 2008, 01:52:41 PM
Nor Cal,

Some of the information is from prior posts and what not.  The post I made reference to is from something Jason mentioned from a couple days ago I believe.
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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: VBPadvertising on November 20, 2008, 07:18:21 PM
OK, Here is the information on our new line along with a few images of the balls.  

Release information
http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newbreedoffercustomercodt8.jpg

Pictures
http://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newbreedcorecopyjb6.jpg

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http://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newbreedpearlball2copyrw4.jpg

http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newbreedsolidball2copyvy9.jpg

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Edited on 11/20/2008 8:28 PM
Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: gsback on November 20, 2008, 07:30:33 PM
When can I have them in my ever so greedy hands???  That's all I want to know!!
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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: J_Mac on November 20, 2008, 07:35:06 PM
The color scheme on the solid is absolutely hideous, yet so appropriate for a Christmas season release date.  LOL
Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: scotts33 on November 20, 2008, 08:10:38 PM
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When can I have them in my ever so greedy hands??? That's all I want to know!!


g,

Looks like Dec. 1....I'll be ordering a Solid to start.


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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: scotts33 on November 20, 2008, 08:20:15 PM
Jason,

Tell us about the core looks very tall in ad.

Will you have marked MB on cover?

Thanks!!!
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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: MC on November 20, 2008, 08:42:40 PM
The pictures in the links are missing now when I look. Saw them earlier then had to rock my daugther to sleep and now they are gone?

Any help?
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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: scotts33 on November 20, 2008, 09:11:36 PM
They work for me MC.
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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: MC on November 20, 2008, 09:27:51 PM
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They work for me MC.
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  Guess that gives me a reason to check them out at work tomorrow..  LOL
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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: gsback on November 21, 2008, 02:58:26 AM
Yeah....I knew that Scott.....but I was hoping Santa may stop by even earlier!!  

I am really at odd for which one....so I'm going with both.  For almost all of this year, it's been Glad Pearl.  And most of my shooting has been with Pearls so the NB Pearl will be used.  But I like the thoughts of another strong solid as well.  

And I really do like that color....reminds me of Peppermint Stick Ice Cream!!


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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: pnj1967 on November 21, 2008, 04:09:13 AM
Link's not working for me either.  When I look one was a Toyota Camry, another about a Trac Phone.
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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: Lillen on November 21, 2008, 04:50:53 AM
The links worked better for me using Firefox than it did using IE....
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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: dizzyfugu on November 21, 2008, 07:06:13 AM
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The color scheme on the solid is absolutely hideous, yet so appropriate for a Christmas season release date.  LOL


The solid is truly the ugliest thing I have ever seem... even though Lanemaster had a similar color scheme on an overseas "Dragon Slayer", also green, red and white/silver. But this one looks... desperate!

The pearl seems to be red/yellow? That looks really good, though.
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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: kalannar on November 21, 2008, 07:49:20 AM
Kind of reminds me of the Lane #1 Bomb Core. Please don't shoot me. I like Visionary too.
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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: Aubin300 on November 21, 2008, 08:03:23 AM
Nice, I wonder who got carried away with the food coloring @ Visionary. LOL.

Like the Core and Depending on this new shell holds up the numbers look very nice on this pieces.
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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: rustylegacy on November 21, 2008, 08:14:12 AM
Ive must haved checked for updates a 1000 times in the past couple days. Solid please, I think the pearl looks better, though. Looks like a modified sledge hammer core. So excited. What covers are used?

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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: MC on November 21, 2008, 08:24:11 AM
Still no luck.  Even at work.

Mike

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Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
Post by: I_Bowl4Money on November 21, 2008, 08:31:30 AM
These balls look great.  I love throwing pieces that people go "What the hell is that?"  and then I pop a sring of strikes and they go "Where can I get one!"

HA HA HA....great job JASON!

MC,

I used Firefox and didn't have a problem.  I did encounter some issues with Internet Explorer 7.


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  • Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
    Post by: gsback on November 21, 2008, 08:37:01 AM
    MC,

    Sent you a PM.
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    Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
    Post by: livespive on November 21, 2008, 08:46:58 AM
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    Jason,

    Tell us about the core looks very tall in ad.

    Will you have marked MB on cover?

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    Looks like a modification of the old spike core.
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    Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
    Post by: Lillen on November 21, 2008, 09:03:22 AM
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    What covers are used?


    Coverstock is called "Drakonian"...

    Core is called "Serpentine"...


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    Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
    Post by: scotts33 on November 21, 2008, 09:04:53 AM
    That's what I thought Eric.  Like the old Faball Spike....I had the HPT.  Has a wrap on the top making it asymmetrical.

    HPT rolled hard.

    I ordered/e-mailed Jason for a Solid with a 2" pin to layout pin under ring.....I have an FMG like this and looking for same kind of arcing hard roll off the spot.


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    Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
    Post by: livespive on November 21, 2008, 09:15:37 AM
    SO many Choices
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    Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
    Post by: getuaload on November 21, 2008, 09:17:07 AM
    Check out the Spike core, Looks like they modified it for the new breed

    http://www.bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=164

    It does favor the Bomb core from lane#1
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    Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
    Post by: Lillen on November 21, 2008, 09:21:35 AM
    quote:
    These balls look great. I love throwing pieces that people go "What the hell is that?"  


    Same here  
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    Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
    Post by: I_Bowl4Money on November 21, 2008, 09:22:20 AM
    Scotts,

    I agree with you based on the numbers.  I've got a Frankie May drilled pin under and that's what it does, rolls very strong off the breakpoint and because of it's a solid isn't jerky like a pearl.

    Check out my arsenal page for other layouts....I'm hoping to get both balls soon however I'm planning on going with a 2-3 pin on the solid and a 3-4 on the pearl.  Not sure about the layouts just yet, but it will find a place in my bag for sure....

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  • Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
    Post by: livespive on November 21, 2008, 09:27:22 AM
    quote:
    quote:
    These balls look great. I love throwing pieces that people go "What the hell is that?"  


    Same here  
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    Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
    Post by: gsback on November 21, 2008, 11:51:50 AM
    Interesting thing.....I remember when the Glad Pearl came out.  I thought the ball was ugly, and then when I saw it in person, I thought it wasn't bad.  Now....I love watching that thing roll down the lane an chew up everything in sight!!
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    Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
    Post by: Nor Cal Bowler on November 21, 2008, 12:09:20 PM
    I can't wait to get mine!
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    Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
    Post by: ibowled286 on November 21, 2008, 01:57:25 PM
    Ok, I see that the new breed will be ready for order on Dec.1, but honestly the one I am waiting for is the urethane ogre, so does anyone know if it will be out the same time?
    Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
    Post by: darkman on November 21, 2008, 02:53:55 PM
    try double clicking in the white screen, for me if done in the right location it comes up.  This would be for the main first link which shows both balls.  I can't get it to work for the other links either.
    Good Luck
    Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
    Post by: ibowled286 on November 21, 2008, 03:36:29 PM
    I also can not see the pictures using IE.  Could someone post them on a different photo hosting service, and repost a link?
    Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
    Post by: MC on November 21, 2008, 03:38:40 PM
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    I also can not see the pictures using IE.  Could someone post them on a different photo hosting service, and repost a link?
    sent you a message with links
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    Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
    Post by: VBPadvertising on November 21, 2008, 03:51:08 PM
    Since so many of you are having problems, I have uploaded them to another site.  Let me know if you have any problems with these.

    Inroductory sheet
    http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/5904/newbreedoffercustomerwexk1.jpg

    Images
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    Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
    Post by: REvans284 on November 21, 2008, 03:56:26 PM
    I'm not so sure these new balls might not be a replacement for the Gryphons.  The RG and Diff. numbers are very similar, but with a slightly higher RG and lower Diff.  The covers are probably stronger though, so it may give a similar roll as those two.  I hope they don't discontinue the Gryphons, but it looks like they may.  

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    Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
    Post by: pnj1967 on November 21, 2008, 03:57:19 PM
    Jason they work good now.  Also these that MC sent are great.


    Solid:
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    http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk113/gary_lum/NewBreedSolidDragoncopy.jpg
    http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk113/gary_lum/NewBreedSolidball2copy.jpg

    Pearl:
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    Since so many of you are having problems, I have uploaded them to another site.  Let me know if you have any problems with these.

    Inroductory sheet
    http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/5904/newbreedoffercustomerwexk1.jpg

    Images
    http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/6550/newbreedcorecopylo5.jpg

    http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/4134/newbreedpearlball2copygn3.jpg

    http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/1381/newbreedsolidball2copyns0.jpg

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    Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
    Post by: ibowled286 on November 21, 2008, 04:05:15 PM
    Thanks MC, the links worked, and thanks Jason for reposting it.  I am not so sure about the solid,  but I don't use solids much anyway  to much hand, and not enough speed.  The pearl however, looks sweet.  Well I guess I know two new bowling balls on my Christmas wish list, new breed pearl and urethane ogre.
    Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
    Post by: VBPadvertising on November 21, 2008, 04:25:29 PM
    Hopefully everyone can atleast get one of those sets to work.  

    I also wanted to mention that I sent out an email to all test staff members, pro shops, and individuals who have requested new release information and received about 200 returned emails.  If you have changed your email address, and still want new release information, please let me know by emailing me at vbppromotions@aol.com

    Anyone who did not receive the email, and would like to be added to the list, please contact me and I will add you to the list.  When you email me, please let me know if you are a pro shop (mention which pro shop), a test staff member (please mention membership number), or an individual so that I can add you to the proper mailing list in my address book.  Also, if you are a pro shop, please note which distributor you purchase through, because from time to time distributors run specials and I want to be able to send you those as well.

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    Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
    Post by: Aubin300 on November 21, 2008, 05:10:38 PM
    quote:
    Check out the Spike core, Looks like they modified it for the new breed

    http://www.bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=164

    It does favor the Bomb core from lane#1
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    Title: Re: A little birdie told me.....about new balls coming!!
    Post by: charlest on November 27, 2008, 05:35:46 AM
    quote:
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    Check out the Spike core, Looks like they modified it for the new breed

    http://www.bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=164

    It does favor the Bomb core from lane#1
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