BallReviews

Equipment Boards => Visionary => Topic started by: Gene J Kanak on July 01, 2004, 08:34:39 PM

Title: A new Gargoyle is on the loose!
Post by: Gene J Kanak on July 01, 2004, 08:34:39 PM
Check this out!

http://www.bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=2398

Well, I'm not one for pink, but I guess it's nice to see they're bringing back a solid reactive that can remind us of the DC Tour. It's a about time they give us a solid reactive Gargoyle. Anyone else think that this one has winner written all over it?


--------------------
Bowling is without a doubt the dumbest, most pointless, most idiotic excuse for a game that has ever been invented. So, what time are we bowling tomorrow?
Title: Re: A new Gargoyle is on the loose!
Post by: Ragnar on July 02, 2004, 11:38:34 AM
Gene, if you spent any time at Tony's site you would know that it's "Cheyenne Red."

BTW, this may tempt me to try some Visionary stuff.  Just what I need, more bowling balls.
--------------------
"Things fall apart; the center cannot hold; mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,"
I'm Ragnar Floggurass, and I approve this message

Edited on 7/2/2004 11:35 AM
Title: Re: A new Gargoyle is on the loose!
Post by: livespive on July 02, 2004, 11:41:24 AM
Yeah I think so.
I always thought there was something missing beteween
the granite, and the green.  You had to do to much
cover work to land in the middle.

All they need now is a urathane Executioner.
--------------------
Eric T. Spivey, P.E.
 Visionary Test Staff Member
http://www.visionarybowling.com

Edited on 7/2/2004 11:57 AM
Title: Re: A new Gargoyle is on the loose!
Post by: da Shiv on July 02, 2004, 11:53:10 AM
I've been very happy with the Granite and the Slate Blue to cover the extreme opposite ends of my ball lineup.  This new one might be a good choice to squeeze into the lineup somewhere in the middle--especially if it's cheap like the others.  What's the pricing look like?

The color is very reminiscent of the infamous Blazing Violet 3D Offset Hammer--assuming that it actually looks like that picture.

Shiv
--------------------
Listening to the monotonous staccato of rain on my desk top
Title: Re: A new Gargoyle is on the loose!
Post by: da Shiv on July 02, 2004, 11:59:52 AM
I just got a message that BrianN replied to this post, but I'm not seeing it.  Is it visible to all but me?

Maybe he deleted it already.

Shiv
--------------------
Listening to the monotonous staccato of rain on my desk top
Title: Re: A new Gargoyle is on the loose!
Post by: MI 2 AZ on July 02, 2004, 12:19:48 PM
Shiv,  I dont see it either.
--------------------

I just want 2C was'zzub.
____________________________________

I am the SGT Schultz of bowling.
"I know nothing!"
Title: Re: A new Gargoyle is on the loose!
Post by: MI 2 AZ on July 02, 2004, 12:24:54 PM
Release date is late August.
--------------------
Edited to add:  Pricing is same as other Gargoyles.

I just want 2C was'zzub.
____________________________________

I am the SGT Schultz of bowling.
"I know nothing!"

Edited on 7/2/2004 12:21 PM
Title: Re: A new Gargoyle is on the loose!
Post by: Jeffrevs on July 02, 2004, 12:56:19 PM
sounds like it'll fit right between the green and granite....
--------------------
JEFF
There is doing in not doing
Title: Re: A new Gargoyle is on the loose!
Post by: TheDude on July 02, 2004, 02:34:14 PM
that's a really big gap when it comes to fitting. This will likely be a bit less than the Charcoal Excutioner(which was always a little too strong for me)

Should be a good mid-price winner, maybe something like a erase-it.
--------------------
I am Canadian Dude! GOO BIG FIN!!! MIKA K ALL THE WAY!
Title: Re: A new Gargoyle is on the loose!
Post by: TheDude on July 05, 2004, 12:33:27 AM
Gonna drill up a test ball of this soon!! let ya know soon hopefully.
--------------------
I am Canadian Dude! GOO BIG FIN!!! MIKA K ALL THE WAY!
Title: Re: A new Gargoyle is on the loose!
Post by: A_P_K on July 06, 2004, 03:36:38 PM
Whelp,

I had went out of my way to get the Centaur when in fact I should have waited for this baby.  Oh well, back to the pro shop for more...seeing this is just what I was looking for to fit in between my Green Gargoyle and Blue Gryphon.
--------------------
Always Aggie Dun

Pin_Krusher IS a serious threat to modern day bowling wood as we know it today.


Title: Re: A new Gargoyle is on the loose!
Post by: MI 2 AZ on July 06, 2004, 03:53:51 PM
Anthony, for me the Centaur falls below the Blue Gryphon in hooking ability.  I dont have a Green Gargoyle any longer so cant compare to that.  The Centaur has more length, less backend than the Blue Gryphon.

I am hoping that the new Gargoyle will fit above the Blue Gryphon.
--------------------

I just want 2C was'zzub.
____________________________________

I am the SGT Schultz of bowling.
"I know nothing!"
Title: Re: A new Gargoyle is on the loose!
Post by: livespive on July 07, 2004, 01:17:35 PM
quote:
Livespie.. With the new catalog what about a Particle Pearl Gryphon ?


Yeah, maybe that too.

With the differences in cores in the Gryphon line, I don't know if it
is necessary.  Meaning look at the Gargoyle, and Executioner line.
The cores are the same shape through out the line.  In the gryphon line
the blue sparkle is different.  That was the only thing I didn't like about that
line.
--------------------
Eric T. Spivey, P.E.
 Visionary Test Staff Member
http://www.visionarybowling.com
Title: Re: A new Gargoyle is on the loose!
Post by: da Shiv on July 09, 2004, 09:03:52 AM
Has anyone got the RG and diff numbers on this one yet?  I'm not going to make any assumptions based on the fact that the core looks like the other Gargoyles' cores.

How does www.bowlingballreviews.com get new balls up so fast?  Visionary's site
doesn't even have this one up yet.

Shiv
--------------------
Listening to the monotonous staccato of rain on my desk top
Title: Re: A new Gargoyle is on the loose!
Post by: Jeffrevs on July 09, 2004, 09:22:26 AM
Shiv,
Visionary's site is always way behind for some reason........
--------------------
JEFF
There is doing in not doing
Title: Re: A new Gargoyle is on the loose!
Post by: da Shiv on July 15, 2004, 06:22:27 PM
Well, it STILL isn't on the Visionary site, but it IS on the approved balls list now and it wasn't a few days ago.  So, does anyone know when this ball is coming to market?

Shiv
--------------------
Listening to the monotonous staccato of rain on my desk top
Title: Re: A new Gargoyle is on the loose!
Post by: livespive on July 15, 2004, 09:35:37 PM
The catalog says fall, so I am going to guess mid to late Aug
seeing as they are probably talking about the fall season.
--------------------
Eric T. Spivey, P.E.
 Visionary Test Staff Member
http://www.visionarybowling.com
Title: Re: A new Gargoyle is on the loose!
Post by: MI 2 AZ on August 11, 2004, 06:01:39 PM
quote:
Has anyone got the RG and diff numbers on this one yet? I'm not going to make any assumptions based on the fact that the core looks like the other Gargoyles' cores.



It is now posted on their website.

 
Finish: Polished (1500)
Hardness: 74-77
RG: Medium (2.56")
Flare: Medium (.039" differential)
Length (1-100): 67
Back end (1-100): 87
Hook (1-100): 59 (oil) - 84 (dry)
Avail. Wts: 13-16# (Gargoyle core)
10-12# (on request - light wt. core)
Lane Conditions: Medium

--------------------

I just want 2C was'zzub.
____________________________________

I am the SGT Schultz of bowling.
"I know nothing!"
Title: Re: A new Gargoyle is on the loose!
Post by: BowlingDude300 on August 11, 2004, 11:49:08 PM
Its so pretty! hahaha


--------------------
Lifes a GAME . . . Bowling is SERIOUS!
Title: Re: A new Gargoyle is on the loose!
Post by: A_P_K on August 14, 2004, 12:03:34 PM
I won't mind this type of low differential, I think the Blue Gryphon is lower right???....at .033???

I have trouble with DIF lower than .025 though...
--------------------
Always Aggie Dun

Pin_Krusher IS a serious threat to modern day bowling wood as we know it today.


Title: Re: A new Gargoyle is on the loose!
Post by: Rick Wunder on August 19, 2004, 09:15:27 AM
The ball has been released and is in shops now.
--------------------
RW (THB)
Title: Re: A new Gargoyle is on the loose!
Post by: Rick Wunder on August 19, 2004, 05:24:50 PM
I don't follow the online shops, so I can't help you there.  Good luck!
--------------------
RW (THB)