Post by: Cranking_Inferno on June 09, 2006, 09:24:27 AM
If there are any balls better, please specify here.
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Currently in the 6 ball roller:
14lb. EPX-T1 - Stacked - Heavy oil
14lb. Action - Stacked - Heavy/Medium oil
14lb. New Standard - Stacked - Medium oil
14lb. Absolute Inferno - 1:30 - Medium oil
14lb. Sahara - 11:50 Length - Medium/dry oil
14lb. XXXL - Stacked Leverage - Light oil
Post by: The SuperHitMan on June 09, 2006, 05:30:49 PM
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or Go Home...Shwosh-The SuperHitMan Post by: themagician on June 09, 2006, 05:31:34 PM
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Post by: Cranking_Inferno on June 09, 2006, 05:40:52 PM
Keep em coming guys.
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Currently in the 6 ball roller:
14lb. EPX-T1 - Stacked - Heavy oil
14lb. Action - Stacked - Heavy/Medium oil
14lb. New Standard - Stacked - Medium oil
14lb. Absolute Inferno - 1:30 - Medium oil
14lb. Sahara - 11:50 Length - Medium/dry oil
14lb. XXXL - Stacked Leverage - Light oil
Post by: TWOHAND834 on June 09, 2006, 06:17:49 PM
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Post by: DP3 on June 09, 2006, 06:28:20 PM
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Post by: shelley on June 09, 2006, 06:51:44 PM
But my EPX-T1 revved up real well and had a nice hard arc to the pocket.
And the best part was that after 50 games, the Centaur was dead but the EPX-T1 just got a hot water bath and its reaction was like new.
SH
Post by: TWOHAND834 on June 09, 2006, 06:55:13 PM
How is your AMB drilled? I am shocked you are not getting yours to hook. Granted, I am a high rev player, but I cant keep mine right of the head pin on a 42 foot pattern. Just curious.
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Post by: MI 2 AZ on June 09, 2006, 06:58:00 PM
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after 50 games, the Centaur was dead
That seems unusual for a Visionary ball. I've put over 100 games on both the Midnight Scorcher and the Granite Gargoyle and havent noticed any loss of performance. Of course I do clean and soak the balls regularly. I only have about a dozen games on the AMB CP because there isnt enough oil on our local lanes to use it.
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Post by: TWOHAND834 on June 09, 2006, 10:20:31 PM
I believe I drilled that AMB Particle pin under ring and the cg stacked underneath it with no weight hole. I remember he had a 4 3/4 inch span. The ball had a 2.5-3 inch pin but cant remember the top weight. With his ball speed, I wanted to make sure the ball hooked for him so with the axis tilt he had (which he had medium tilt), I put the pin down to give him help on the longer pattern. Out of the box (320 grit), the ball was actually too early even with his ball speed. I sanded up to 2000 abralon and the ball shined. The ball started to read the lane at about 30 feet and just had a strong continuous arc from there. It was way stronger than a GP2 and Arsenel Aggressive he possessed. The GP2 he got used from a friend and it was drilled pin above ring with the cg stacked, which I did not drill. The Arsenel Aggressive was drilled identical to the AMB and it was, for him, about 10 feet longer than the AMB before it rolled up. What was great for him, is that with the AMB, he could play right up 10-12 and the oil would hold the line, but could lose it out to 6-7 at the breakpoint and it would roll up into the pocket. A ball that created area for a guy with 20 mph ball speed off his hand with only about a 275-300 rev rate with a little bit of axis tilt. I do not remember his exact PAP, but I believe it was in the 4 1/4 - 4 3/8 area. He was elated to say the least. The most impressive part of this ball, was that even for as early as it wants to read the lane, it does not sacrifice hitting power unless the heads are fried.
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Post by: DP3 on June 09, 2006, 10:47:11 PM
I think it's freakin hilarious
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Post by: a_ak57 on June 09, 2006, 10:54:01 PM
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Post by: TWOHAND834 on June 09, 2006, 11:06:59 PM
Too late. I have already been informed.
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Post by: TWOHAND834 on June 10, 2006, 01:21:53 AM
I was looking at your profile. You have some stellar numbers. I cant imagine having 17 300 games with stuff drilled to roll like crap. My question, is what types of layouts have given you the best look on the lanes? Are you struggling with looks in general or just a curiosity with the AMB Part?
To answer your question, I believe that the VMB was just below the thumb hole on the center line. What you have to remember is that the more you shift the VMB towards the PAP, the more unstable you make the core. MB in the track will help to smoothen out the reaction. The more you shift it towards your PAP, the quicker and more aggressive your reaction will be. With you having a 3.5 inch PAP, drillings like pin under fingers, either under the bridge or even pin under middle finger for length will probably give you the best looks. Depending on how aggressive a reaction you want, keep the MB on the center line or within an inch of it and you should be fine. The only time you should have the MB on the negative side of the ball is if you are looking to control the breakpoint.
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Post by: Cranking_Inferno on June 10, 2006, 07:06:31 PM
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Currently in the 6 ball roller:
14lb. EPX-T1 - Stacked - Heavy oil
14lb. Action - Stacked - Heavy/Medium oil
14lb. New Standard - Stacked - Medium oil
14lb. Absolute Inferno - 1:30 - Medium oil
14lb. Sahara - 11:50 Length - Medium/dry oil
14lb. XXXL - Stacked Leverage - Light oil
Post by: cnimsk on June 11, 2006, 07:17:39 PM
Chuck
Edited on 6/11/2006 7:20 PM
Post by: fins4ever88 on June 11, 2006, 07:25:24 PM
Which one is stronger, if anyones thrown both?
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Post by: cnimsk on June 12, 2006, 08:17:45 AM
Chuck
Post by: shelley on June 12, 2006, 08:56:34 AM
It is the future of bowling ball technology. Seriously.
SH
Post by: clovismaul on June 16, 2006, 01:18:53 PM
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Post by: cnimsk on June 16, 2006, 02:14:55 PM
Chuck
Post by: imjouster on June 16, 2006, 10:08:38 PM
Jeremy
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Post by: TWOHAND834 on June 18, 2006, 12:42:45 AM
The Particle is ALOT stronger than the AMB Solid. If you do not throw the ball 20+ mph off your hand and ALOT of oil, you will defintely need surface adjustments in order to use this ball effectively. The only way someone might be able to use this in box finish, is if the bowler has less than a 225 rpm rev rate and medium speed. Any rev rate at all and you will have to sand up to at least 1000 abralon if not 2000.
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Post by: imjouster on June 18, 2006, 01:38:02 AM
Jeremy
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"Strive to be perfect, that is afterall the only way to become perfect."
"If you compare yourself with others,
you may become vain and bitter;
for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.
Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans."
Taken from Desiderata
Proud user of Columbia 300 and Visionary Bowling Products
Post by: TWOHAND834 on June 19, 2006, 02:45:16 PM
The reason he cannot get anything to hook enough is what you mentioned in your previous post about the ball burning up. Therefore, he does not need to go even stronger with the ball selection. He either needs to take what he has and do some surface adjustments or buy something that is weaker. Ball reaction is based on how much energy is stored once the ball gets down the lane. The more energy stored, the more backend and continuation he will get. If he is having trouble with what he has already, he definitely will not need the AMB Particle, either. How does your friend roll the ball (rev rate, ball speed, how does he track? Low or High?) This might help out a little more as to what he needs to get more hook.
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Steven Vance
Former Pro Shop Operator
If anyone out there is worried about the scores being too high, try duckpin!!