Post by: TWOHAND834 on February 16, 2011, 01:24:30 AM
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Post by: scotts33 on February 16, 2011, 09:48:51 AM
Scott
Post by: TWOHAND834 on February 16, 2011, 09:56:11 AM
Thanks Scott. That was pretty much my gut feeling being that the React was stronger than the Eradicator. However, with the React being a few years older than the Erad, I wanted to make absolutely sure.
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Post by: Spike2112 on February 16, 2011, 12:16:23 PM
Second the Frankie May suggestion! Much stronger piece than either the AMB or the Pumpkin. Love that React-A-Tack coverstock.
Spike
Post by: gsback on February 17, 2011, 02:57:40 AM
Steven,
When you throw strong cover/core equipment, do you find it rolling out??? That's the one thing I would be curious about with such a strong cover in the FMG. I would guess a little polish and a pin above bridge should do wonders for you, but am curious.
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Post by: TWOHAND834 on February 17, 2011, 08:31:36 AM
I had a FMG once before and liked it alot. I had to take the cover to 2000 before I could really use it. But it took to surface change really well. Out of box was way too early. I had my favorite layout in it which was a 5 inch pin to PAP (pin above the ring finger), cg/MB kicked out just far enough to need a small weight hole down. I thought about getting the AMB simply because of curiosity since I have had the FMG.
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Post by: scotts33 on February 17, 2011, 08:38:25 AM
Came across this on explaining why another user has issues with stronger equipment. I'd seen it years back and good explanation.
Old vid shot by Britton Rieder a few years back before he was with Storm/RG. It explains a lot on what people see.
Scott
Post by: ch_flash on February 17, 2011, 09:05:31 AM
Thats something that I will have to watch for. Thanks for posting that, Scott.
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Post by: River700 on February 17, 2011, 06:16:30 PM
One thing that people are not taking into consideration when drilling such a strong ball like this is putting the pin in a position where it will help the ball retain axis tilt and rotation better which would help the ball not burn up as much along with the correct surface prep. For the record both the franky may gryphon and the amb solid use the same react-a-tack cover just that the gryphon uses a symmetrical core where as the amb uses a stronger mas bias core. So putting the pin at 3 1/4 to 3 3/4 from your pap for the amb solid and then 3 3/4-5 to pap for the franky may will help the ball save some energy and not burn up as much when bowling on a decent amount of oil. Then use a balance hole and surface to fine tune it. If you want confirmation on the pin distance to pap you can take a look at the Morich site for the dual angle layout method if you don't believe me..lol!
Twohand, yes you would be alright having both the ogre solid and the amb solid, but there will be a decent gap between the two depending on drill and surface prep. So, the amb for the heavier longer stuff where as the ogre solid for more of a benchmark type of reaction, hope that helps!
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Edited by River700 on 2/17/2011 at 7:22 PM
Post by: TWOHAND834 on February 18, 2011, 07:10:31 AM
River,
I have a pretty good idea how the layout will be considering my rev rate. I have nothing with the pin close to being leverage. I have one ball with a 2 inch pin. my Ebonite Black Ice. Everything else is pin anywhere between 4.5 - 5 inches and then vary the angles and weight hole placement. Now the biggest battle is convincing the woman that even though I have 20 bowling balls in the closet, I still need at least one more.
Peace doesnt always have to be silent.
Post by: TWOHAND834 on February 18, 2011, 07:20:00 AM
I just got confirmation from Jason that the Eradicator and the React and quite similar. He stated that the Eradicator cover is not as "clean" as the React. The React tends to get through the heads better. But overall, they have the same base materials. So that is really good to know.
Peace doesnt always have to be silent.
Post by: River700 on February 18, 2011, 05:43:13 PM
Bowling is fun, enjoy it, don't hate it
Post by: Trimman2 on February 19, 2011, 06:35:58 AM
This is what I thought of the two covers. Nice to have that confirmation. I always needed some oil to use any of them. When used properly the Ogre and the FMG were about controling the backends. If I needed more of an angular backend, the AMB was the one.