This is what Visionary says about the mass bias on the Executioner line:

Mass Bias Location/Use

The inner portion of the core has a second nub located at a 30 degree offset from the bottom of the core. This does create a mild mass bias that is located 11 1/4" from the pin in a direct line through the CG. Like with the Gargoyle line, we have not marked this spot because it is a minor mass bias that mainly is used to help achieve better pin-out locations. Also, by placing the nub towards the bottom instead of on the side, the core maintains a medium differential while the RG was lowered. It can be drilled with great success by completely ignoring this spot. If fine tuning is desired then this spot can be treated like any other mass bias location (even though it's further away than normal MB locations) by keeping the same general directions as stronger or mellower layouts **see the DC line drillings for Visionary MB suggestions**. Again, this will make minor adjustments which may not even be detectable by some people.  

With that said, the only way I can see to get the mass bias in the "strong" position is to drill the ball either stacked leverage or even more extreme, axis leverage.

If you have a lot of hand I wouldn't recommend either of these drills.  If your rev challenged they are a good option depending on the conditions your looking to use them on.

Let me see if I can get the picture of the mass bias layout to post...

Edited on 8/8/2003 9:21 AM

Well, I wouldn't want to put it in the track area.....so I'll speak with my driller about what lay out to go with.

The MB of my Crimson is inbetween the VAL and thumb hole.  It gets real good length because of the pearl cover but has a pretty strong backend reaction.  I honestly think it is stronger than what people give it credit for.  

That will narrow it down to putting the MB on the VAL or just to the right of the thumb.....but I'm leaning towards the latter idea.

Then maybe I can put the MB on the VAL when I get the Purple Ice for a hard roll.....hmmmm sounds like a strategy......let me see what the driller will say.

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In the old days people used to cut wood with an axe.....................now and days...............they just have Exectuioners do it for them!

Ok I guess label it is then for the Charcoal at least.....I have another idea for the Purple Ice.

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In the old days people used to cut wood with axes.....................now and days...............they just have Exectuioners do it for them!

So it's really that aggressive??  I only heard stories and reviews about it.  How would it compare to a Super Carbide (not bomb)?  

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In the old days people used to cut wood with axes.....................now and days...............they just have Exectuioners do it for them!

I will get a different look from it then because my Super Carbide has almost 4oz. of top weight(before drill) and a 4 1/2" pin out distance.  I get a heavy oil hockey stick reaction out of it.  The Super Carbide actually stinks on a house pattern because of that.........if it hits oil too late it skates, and the dry too early it flies off the lane.  I need a reverse block or OB the keep the ball from jumping too hard.

I was thinking about using it only for tournies but I love Visionary so much now I may just sell the SC.

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In the old days people used to cut wood with axes.....................now and days...............they just have Exectuioners do it for them!

Actually, I'd like to know if that 6 3/4" straight through the pin and cg idea works for the MB of these Executioners?

It's a little boggling looking at the core picture on Visionary's web site?  This should end my learning lesson for the day.............

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In the old days people used to cut wood with axes.....................now and days...............they just have Exectuioners do it for them!