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Equipment Boards => Visionary => Topic started by: gsback on January 31, 2015, 02:51:49 PM

Title: eBay VBP stuff
Post by: gsback on January 31, 2015, 02:51:49 PM
There's a decent amount of stuff for sale on eBay for VBP goods!!  Of interest I see....

16lb Green Gargoyle - http://www.ebay.com/itm/bowling-ball-Gargoyle-Visionary-new-16-05-lb-top-2-81-oz-pin-2-3-Reactive-/161575857657?pt=Bowling&hash=item259eabedf9

15lb Immortal Solid -
http://www.ebay.com/itm/15-Visionary-Immortal-Solid-bowling-ball-BLEM-reactive-AMB-New-and-Undrilled-/251812707194?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3aa134fb7a

14/16lb Bronze Centaurs
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Visionary-Bronze-AMB-Pearl-bowling-ball-First-Quality-14-or-16-NEW-undrilled-/251811649597?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item3aa124d83d

And I saved the best for last as the last one I had from maybe 3 years ago I sold on here for $135 shipped I think....

15lb Violet Gargoyle -
http://www.ebay.com/itm/15-Visionary-Violet-Gargoyle-Bowling-Ball-BLEM-reactive-NEW-undrilled-RARE-/251811604052?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3aa1242654

Ball is marked as blem and i see why....Gargoyle engraving is under the Gargoyle.  Big deal!!  Sweet ball and sweet deal. 
Title: Re: eBay VBP stuff
Post by: MI 2 AZ on January 31, 2015, 02:58:45 PM
Usually Visionary would engrave the word BLEM under the serial number.  Don't see that on the Gargoyle.  I thought all Gargoyle engravings were like that?

Title: Re: eBay VBP stuff
Post by: MI 2 AZ on January 31, 2015, 03:00:07 PM
Also, they usually stamped BLEM on the box, like in the Immortal pictures, both box and ball are marked BLEM.

The Violet Gargoyle is not marked that way either on the box or ball.  I suspect it is a first quality ball, not a blem like the listing says.

Title: Re: eBay VBP stuff
Post by: gsback on January 31, 2015, 03:12:53 PM
Agree Gary, but not sure.  I would have to look at mine sitting in the closet to know for sure.
Title: Re: eBay VBP stuff
Post by: MI 2 AZ on January 31, 2015, 03:15:41 PM
Look at the pictures of that Green Gargoyle.

Title: Re: eBay VBP stuff
Post by: MI 2 AZ on January 31, 2015, 03:17:10 PM
Just looked at my Slate Blue Gargoyle.  The Gargoyle image and lettering looks the same.

Title: Re: eBay VBP stuff
Post by: Spike2112 on January 31, 2015, 05:38:59 PM
I don't believe that Violet Gargoyle is a blem. Every Visionary ball I ever had that was a blem was clearly engraved under the serial number. If it was a NIB, the box was clearly labeled as well. Just punched up an Immortal Solid and I'm loving how that high-flaring beast rolls!

Spike
Title: Re: eBay VBP stuff
Post by: charlest on January 31, 2015, 07:27:08 PM
Also, they usually stamped BLEM on the box, like in the Immortal pictures, both box and ball are marked BLEM.

The Violet Gargoyle is not marked that way either on the box or ball.  I suspect it is a first quality ball, not a blem like the listing says.



BUT
99% of Visionary's blems are the rest of the world's first quality.

I have 4 different Visionary's balls stamped with the word "BLEM" on them and not any pro shop driller, to whom I have brought them, can tell why any one of them are so marked.
Title: Re: eBay VBP stuff
Post by: MI 2 AZ on January 31, 2015, 07:39:13 PM
Jeff, I agree.  I have bought quite a few of Visionary's blem balls and have not been able to tell why they are blems except for a couple that had either color mixtures (phasing) or engraving error, and the clear plastic ones from Korea that had particles floating in them.  I will not hesitate to buy one of their blems if I am looking for one of their balls.

I was just commenting on the Violet Gargoyle being listed as a Blem, but I don't see the normal VBP blem markings on either the ball or box.  I think the seller mistakenly listed that ball as a blem.