Post by: getuaload on December 23, 2009, 12:44:05 AM
I will try to give some more reviews after i get a few more games on it. With the holidays i will not be bowling much. But after the first will be back to normal.
So far overall , this is a good ball to start with if you have backends but if you see carry down you might want to put it away.
It can be used for all 3 with some adjustments.
Compaired to
Ogre Pearl - longer and sharper
Ogre SS drilled same , a little Longer but about the same backend
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Post by: Nor Cal Bowler on December 23, 2009, 08:56:32 AM
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Post by: getuaload on December 23, 2009, 11:05:58 AM
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Post by: A_P_K on December 28, 2009, 08:34:27 PM
I'll need to contemplate where I want to put the LE.
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Post by: gsback on December 29, 2009, 04:00:46 AM
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Compaired to
Ogre Pearl - longer and sharper
Ogre SS drilled same , a little Longer but about the same backend
Are you meaning the LE is longer and sharper compared to Ogre Pearl and a little longer than the SS or the flip side??
Curious....as with anything Visionary makes.....I will always try to get it even if it goes undrilled just to support them.
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Post by: A_P_K on December 29, 2009, 08:31:22 AM
For me the GG is an absolute beast on light oil it just blows the lane wide open. I have trouble containing it some times when my speed isn't correct as well it just rolls so strong off the break.
I find my friend's SS compared to my GG to be much earlier and more even rolling. If the LE gets slightly more length than that with the same if not a bit stronger finish I could drill it stronger to fit above the GG. I may even need to adjust the surface to fit my needs.
Considering the Ogre pearl's reaction I've seen out of my friends that is much weaker all around than my Gladiator pearl.
Hmm...what to do with this ball...???
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Post by: MC on December 29, 2009, 08:38:54 AM
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Post by: getuaload on December 29, 2009, 08:58:06 AM
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Are you meaning the LE is longer and sharper compared to Ogre Pearl and a little longer than the SS or the flip side??
Yes the LE is longer and sharper then the Ogre Pearl.
The SS i campaired to had more surface on it, so that is why i think the SS checked up just alittle sooner then the LE.
The LE is very close to the Glad Pearl, However if you dont find some dry boards it will not recover very good. But if you have some dry boards hang on it will turn the corner very hard.
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Post by: scotts33 on December 29, 2009, 09:03:25 AM
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Post by: A_P_K on December 29, 2009, 09:48:34 AM
The Crimson and BGC will be good enough.
Thanks for the info,
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Post by: scotts33 on December 29, 2009, 09:53:55 AM
I wish, I could use my old 16's but they are a different grip and too heavy for this old coot.
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Post by: getuaload on December 29, 2009, 10:31:47 AM
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Post by: A_P_K on December 29, 2009, 12:05:45 PM
Hey Scott what do you have in 16lbs you may want to part with?
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Post by: scotts33 on December 29, 2009, 12:11:49 PM
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Hey Scott what do you have in 16lbs you may want to part with?
I have every old Visionary ball made back to late 90's Anthony plus Faballs. Many I have shot honor scores with so hard to get rid of them. I keep them on a rack at home...kind of like keepsakes. Last time I used a 16 was 2003 I believe.
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Post by: gsback on December 29, 2009, 12:40:34 PM
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Though, I don't have one (the new LE)....to me Glad Pearl, SS Ogre, New Breed Pearl (have all of these or had) all have the same type of ball motion, hate carry down and to me play pretty much the same way find friction around carry down. If, it was me I'd be purchasing the SS and leave it at that. The others are way too similar. JMO.
While I might agree that the balls have similar motions off the dry (not the SS....never matched up with it and the way it was drilled) in that we describe them as a 'straight line' drive to pocket, the balls don't check up at the same time and really can't replace one another that easily.
When you throw in the SS as well, that's even longer....and definitely can't be compared to the others.
I could see the LE being something to replace the look I initially intended on getting out of the SS, but I just don't throw pearls with pin above bridge that well.
Just my two cents....that's all.
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Post by: A_P_K on December 29, 2009, 02:08:34 PM
Thought I was about to hit paydirt haha.
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Post by: gsback on December 29, 2009, 02:51:15 PM
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kind of like
That's the same thing as below.....LOL!!!
Lloyd: What do you think the chances are of a guy like you and a girl like me... ending up together?
Mary: Well, Lloyd, that's difficult to say. I mean, we don't really...
Lloyd: Hit me with it! Just give it to me straight! I came a long way just to see you, Mary. The least you can do is level with me. What are my chances?
Mary: Not good.
Lloyd: You mean, not good like one out of a hundred?
Mary: I'd say more like one out of a million.
[pause]
Lloyd: So you're telling me there's a chance... *YEAH!*
Sorry....just couldn't resist since it was on the other night.
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Post by: getuaload on December 29, 2009, 03:04:33 PM
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Post by: getuaload on January 02, 2010, 07:00:16 AM
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Post by: scotts33 on January 02, 2010, 07:08:07 AM
SS Ogre can work from outside. Most Visionary pearls don't handle lots of carry down well. Here the B/G Centaur on carry down would work better. I am still looking for a Visionary ball that will handle carry down from poly and old urethane. NBPP is not it I've tried it all with that ball.
From what I hear C 2.5 is the one ball that works decently and ignores carry down. That's a very strong ball though.
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Post by: A_P_K on January 02, 2010, 07:52:47 AM
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So it sounds like the LE will fit between the B/G Centaur and the Ogre SS?
I could have a use for this once I get my BGC and see how it reacts at 4000ab. If it's as weak as my Too Hot at 4000ab was then the LE may come in handy above that.
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