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Al aka CHT

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Granite Gargoyle & Burgundy Gryphon
« on: November 09, 2005, 04:05:46 AM »
What'sthe difference between the Granite Gargoyle and the Burgundy Gryphon?

 

livespive

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Re: Granite Gargoyle & Burgundy Gryphon
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2005, 12:14:20 PM »
I believe the Burgandy has a higher partical load.
I know that it has a higher diff than the Granite,
meaning it will flare more.
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Re: Granite Gargoyle & Burgundy Gryphon
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2005, 07:27:11 PM »
Redbear, that is what I suspect happens too.  Both the Granite and the Midnight Scorcher have particles that seem to expand or get 'fuzzy' upon contact with oil.  They seem to get stronger the heavier the oil is or the longer you use it in oil because of this 'expanding' effect.

To answer the original question - the Granite seems to roll earlier than the Burgundy for me.  The Burgundy had more backend when I used it while the Granite had a more pronounced arc and seemed to handle heavier oil better. YMMV.
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Re: Granite Gargoyle & Burgundy Gryphon
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2005, 08:56:07 PM »
I'll look on my other computer next time I think about it.  I asked the same question to Visionary when the Burgundy was first released.  If I can find the reply, I'll post it here.  If you can't wait, call or email Visionary yourself.  Very friendly, helpful people.
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Re: Granite Gargoyle & Burgundy Gryphon
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2005, 10:45:50 PM »
MI 2 AZ & Strider are two the long time Visionary knowing bowlers on this forum.  Listen and learn.

I would definietly agree with MI 2 AZ statement  
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Both the Granite and the Midnight Scorcher have particles that seem to expand or get 'fuzzy' upon contact with oil. They seem to get stronger the heavier the oil is or the longer you use it in oil because of this 'expanding' effect.


MS and Granite both need head oil in out of box state.

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Re: Granite Gargoyle & Burgundy Gryphon
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2005, 11:25:09 PM »
Actually found it, what do you know?.

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If you're looking for medium to med-heavy oil the Granite should work well.  
If the conditions are more likely to be heavy to floods, the new Burgundy
Gryphon would probably be better.  Both are particle but the Burgundy is a heavier
load and different type of particle.  For a particle ball it gets through the
heads great and retains more energy for a stronger backend than most
particles.  It gives you the reactive look (length and strong backend) but on heavier
oils where reactives skate too much.  The Granite also acts like a reactive
with more control on the oil but not quite as aggressive as the Burgundy.  If
you hook the ball a lot you would probably be better with the Granite as the
Burgundy might be too much for most conditions for you.  If you need help in the
oil the Burgundy might be a better choice.

As for surface work on the Granite, a quick clean with rubbing alcohol works
great and deep cleaning with hot detergent water (Dawn) will get the deeper
oils out.  To resurface, use 320 or courser to remove the track and break
through to newer particles, then finish with 320 wet sand paper (factory finish)
other sandpaper or scotchbrite both work well with this ball.

 

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Re: Granite Gargoyle & Burgundy Gryphon
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2005, 12:03:59 AM »
Forgot to add this:

I would consider the Granite to be a higher maintenance ball than the Burgundy.  The Granite requires more cleaning than most other balls I have used because it shows the dirt and oil more but I personally liked it better.
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Re: Granite Gargoyle & Burgundy Gryphon
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2005, 09:41:29 AM »
THANK YOU everyone who replyed to this topic. Everyone gave valuble information.