Post by: MarvinsSkeleton on March 11, 2008, 01:07:06 AM
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UPDATE:
The balls arrived just a few minutes ago. Here's a few quick pics of the Gladiator I took with the phone.
Pic 1 (http://"http://www.allbowling.com/gallery/files/1/6/2/glad1.jpg")
Pic 2 (http://"http://www.allbowling.com/gallery/files/1/6/2/glad2.jpg")
Pic 3 (http://"http://www.allbowling.com/gallery/files/1/6/2/glad3.jpg")
Pic 4 (http://"http://www.allbowling.com/gallery/files/1/6/2/glad4.jpg")
Edited on 3/12/2008 2:32 PM
Post by: Krumpy300 on March 11, 2008, 09:12:15 AM
Let us know how it rolls for you.
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Post by: Badger856 on March 11, 2008, 09:34:14 AM
How are you planning on drilling it and will you dare throw it at Village?
Post by: scotts33 on March 11, 2008, 10:24:53 AM
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Scott,
How are you planning on drilling it and will you dare throw it at Village?
I'll work with Rob probably like I had my Char Ex drilled. Pin lil up and right of ring <4" pin to PAP> CG stacked below. Pretty strong layout for heavier mediums. Probably wind up taking cover to 2000 abralon but will try it OOB first.
Village....ugh tracked up ball city.
I used a DT Solid Black Vendetta at Village last week for 725 and I love that ball but since it's not a new piece Village can't hurt it to bad. Can't use the Glad at BAV not enough oil.....lucky to use OP there with next ball the SS and the ole Scorcher NPT rolls out there burned up...that's how freakin' dry it is at BAV. Look for some more teams to leave there for Village/Dream.
Prairie would have enough oil to use Glad.
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Post by: MarvinsSkeleton on March 11, 2008, 10:34:23 AM
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Probably wind up taking cover to 2000 abralon but will try it OOB first.
It's 2000 abralon OOB.
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Post by: scotts33 on March 11, 2008, 10:39:36 AM
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Probably wind up taking cover to 2000 abralon but will try it OOB first.
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It's 2000 abralon OOB.
Hmmmm Vis got with the program??? Figured it would be 1000 matte like most of the Big V's stuff. Good to hear....I'll leave it alone and see how it compares to a Cell.
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Edited on 3/11/2008 10:40 AM
Post by: getuaload on March 11, 2008, 10:40:29 AM
this is one of my favorite layouts next to the RICO ,I have it on most of my VBP stuff.
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Post by: MarvinsSkeleton on March 11, 2008, 10:49:34 AM
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Post by: Rock77 on March 11, 2008, 11:31:26 AM
Do you guys think that the Gladiator will overlap with the Ogre, Frankie May or even Immortal Solid? I know it may be tough to tell since no one has really thrown it yet. Any info is appreciated.
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Post by: MarvinsSkeleton on March 11, 2008, 11:48:17 AM
I had an Ogre and Ogre Pearl when I was throwing 16 lb. equipment. I dropped down to 15 several months back and am finally used to it enough to order new equipment (I've been throwing some used and cheap 15lb stuff to make sure I'd like the change).
When ordering my new 15lb Visionary stuff I actually thought the same thing about the Ogre and Gladiator overlapping. Therefore, I decided to just try out the Gladiator. However, I did pick up an Immortal Solid to be my heavy oil ball. I also picked up a Green/Blue Centaur since I really liked the reaction I got from the 16lb. one I had before. I didn't get an Ogre Pearl because I have a NIB Vapor Zone that I plan on drilling up, and I thought that would overlap as well.
So my new arsenal will be set up like this. I believe it will handle anything and everything I will see.
Immortal Solid
Gladiator Solid
Vapor Zone
Green/Blue Centaur
Columbia Jazz
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Post by: Lillen on March 11, 2008, 11:57:09 AM
Gladiator Diff .044 Low RG 2.51
Ogre Solid Diff .029 Low RG 2.59
Post by: scotts33 on March 11, 2008, 12:03:27 PM
My Ogre Solid on an even pattern at times could/would develop some hang...not enough to bring it back....misses right with it on even/flatter conditions would leave ugly washouts, etc. Too condition specfic but great on heavier medium house walls with good head oil. Glad I believe will be like the Ex and give you a lil more motor and not hang as much on even conditions.
On mine, I want to keep the flare lines as tight or close togther as possible. I seem to have better luck with equipment that rolls that way.
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Post by: Bar5003 on March 11, 2008, 12:17:33 PM
Now i think they should both be at 2000 for a fair comparison of the two...600 is a lot of surface! Anyone have thoughts on that?
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Post by: pnj1967 on March 11, 2008, 12:20:26 PM
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Post by: scotts33 on March 11, 2008, 12:27:00 PM
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Now i think they should both be at 2000 for a fair comparison of the two...600 is a lot of surface! Anyone have thoughts on that?
I'd agree both at 2000 abralon for a fair comparison sake. Even though the Cell is more diff. I plan to compare both.
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Post by: Lillen on March 11, 2008, 01:13:33 PM
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My Ogre Solid on an even pattern at times could/would develop some hang...not enough to bring it back....misses right with it on even/flatter conditions would leave ugly washouts, etc.
Exactly... Same here..
Edited on 3/11/2008 11:56 PM
Post by: 230-n-up-or-bust on March 11, 2008, 01:21:23 PM
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Post by: mntweener on March 11, 2008, 03:18:55 PM
Clark
Post by: MarvinsSkeleton on March 11, 2008, 03:21:11 PM
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The Gladiator is a very smooth rolling ball that has good continuation. The Gladiator has less hook than my Frankie May and solid Centaur I drilled this one with a 4.5 x 4 and used it in league and in a city tournament in the box condition. I took it to 4000 abralon and got some extra length that I needed. I am going to drill my other one with a Rico drilling. I will be taking my Gladiator to USBC in April.
Clark
Thanks for the info! I'm leaning towards a 4.5 x 4 drill.
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Post by: Rock77 on March 12, 2008, 07:01:33 AM
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In my video for the Gladiator, i plan to compare the Ogre Solid to the Gladiator...same layout 4 or 4.5 x 3
Now i think they should both be at 2000 for a fair comparison of the two...600 is a lot of surface! Anyone have thoughts on that?
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That would be perfect since my Ogre is at 2000 abralon.
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Post by: MarvinsSkeleton on March 12, 2008, 08:45:11 AM
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Post by: getuaload on March 12, 2008, 10:48:59 AM
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Post by: tommymo on March 12, 2008, 11:09:21 AM
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Post by: MarvinsSkeleton on March 12, 2008, 02:32:52 PM
Pic 1 (http://"http://www.allbowling.com/gallery/files/1/6/2/glad1.jpg")
Pic 2 (http://"http://www.allbowling.com/gallery/files/1/6/2/glad2.jpg")
Pic 3 (http://"http://www.allbowling.com/gallery/files/1/6/2/glad3.jpg")
Pic 4 (http://"http://www.allbowling.com/gallery/files/1/6/2/glad4.jpg")
It's definitely much darker than I thought it would be... but I like it!
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Post by: getuaload on March 12, 2008, 02:36:03 PM
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Post by: pop_1 on March 12, 2008, 02:37:28 PM
Post by: scotts33 on March 12, 2008, 03:03:12 PM
Color is slightly darker than The One and slightly lighter than The Cell. Kind of in between. Very close to The Cell. Nice color.
I am almost tempted to lay it out exactly like my Cell and see how it compares as it would be a true comparison....layout and surface wise.
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Post by: mini kahuna on March 12, 2008, 03:12:05 PM
Post by: yokerok on March 12, 2008, 03:17:57 PM
i need a life. I keep on checking back here to see any drilled theirs yet.
Post by: mini kahuna on March 12, 2008, 03:40:16 PM
Post by: MarvinsSkeleton on March 12, 2008, 03:43:05 PM
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Post by: Moose Nugget on March 12, 2008, 04:04:16 PM
Ball looks even better than in the pictures. Reminds me of Dynothane's The Thing as far as color combinations. Great looking ball and will have serious shelf appeal.
I'll post an update on how it rolls tonight when I get back from the shop.
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Post by: Lillen on March 12, 2008, 04:07:57 PM
I want one..
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Post by: REvans284 on March 12, 2008, 04:35:59 PM
If I get the Gladiator I planned on drilling it like the pin down one is, but I am afraid they may overlap. I have a Granite Gargoyle drilled like the pin down one too, with X hole just inside my val in thumb quad. but I'm afraid with 2 already drilled like that (Granite for heavy, FMG for med? gladiator for what?) the Gladiator may overlap one.
What I need is a pearl that can get down lane, probably drilled with a 6-6 1/2 Pin-PAP distance (Pin over middle finger, about 1-1 1/2 up) and the CG in the same location as these balls. This is for a burnt head situation so I can play deep inside lines and get the thing down lane. I have the pin up FMG at 2000 abrolon, and was considering taking it to 4000 and polishing the crap out of it to get it something like that, but am thinking of trying the Pearl Gladiator for that.
Either way, my Violet got messed up when a sweep unexpectedly came down and when the ball hit it, it chunked a piece out of the ball off the thumb hole. I've been in the market for a benchmark ball now and plan on drilling something like the Violet Gargoyle is (again, its drilled like the pin down FMG, and Granite).
I think the Gladiator may be the ticket. Will it roll similar, and/or overlap with the pin down FMG? I haven't got to throw the pin down one yet, but the pin up one is great. Here are a few pictures from them off the Ebay Auction I won.
Pin Up
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=110228236633&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=001
Pin Down
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=110228237314&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=001
Later,
REvans284
Edited on 3/12/2008 4:39 PM
Post by: MC on March 12, 2008, 07:34:37 PM
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Hello,
OK, since some people have already seen it, the next Gladiator is a red, creamy gold, and black pearl. Here is a link to the picture of the ball. http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/6470/gladiatorpearlpictureyc1.jpg This is coming in about 6-8 weeks, around the end of April.
Jason Wonders
Visionary Bowling Products
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Have they said anything about a release date for the Pearl version? I just got 2 FMG's off of Axeweldr and I love the way the pin up one rolls, but its stronger than I expected.
If I get the Gladiator I planned on drilling it like the pin down one is, but I am afraid they may overlap. I have a Granite Gargoyle drilled like the pin down one too, with X hole just inside my val in thumb quad. but I'm afraid with 2 already drilled like that (Granite for heavy, FMG for med? gladiator for what?) the Gladiator may overlap one.
What I need is a pearl that can get down lane, probably drilled with a 6-6 1/2 Pin-PAP distance (Pin over middle finger, about 1-1 1/2 up) and the CG in the same location as these balls. This is for a burnt head situation so I can play deep inside lines and get the thing down lane. I have the pin up FMG at 2000 abrolon, and was considering taking it to 4000 and polishing the crap out of it to get it something like that, but am thinking of trying the Pearl Gladiator for that.
Either way, my Violet got messed up when a sweep unexpectedly came down and when the ball hit it, it chunked a piece out of the ball off the thumb hole. I've been in the market for a benchmark ball now and plan on drilling something like the Violet Gargoyle is (again, its drilled like the pin down FMG, and Granite).
I think the Gladiator may be the ticket. Will it roll similar, and/or overlap with the pin down FMG? I haven't got to throw the pin down one yet, but the pin up one is great. Here are a few pictures from them off the Ebay Auction I won.
Pin Up
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=110228236633&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=001
Pin Down
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=110228237314&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=001
Later,
REvans284
Edited on 3/12/2008 4:39 PM
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Tag Team Coaching success story Post by: Lillen on March 13, 2008, 05:59:20 AM
Nice looking ball...
Want one of those too...
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Post by: pnj1967 on March 13, 2008, 06:18:15 AM
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Post by: tommymo on March 13, 2008, 01:28:59 PM
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Post by: tommymo on March 16, 2008, 09:32:33 PM
Jason, thanks for the help on the layout. It worked perfect.
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Post by: witesoxwoz22 on March 16, 2008, 10:23:18 PM
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Have they said anything about a release date for the Pearl version? I just got 2 FMG's off of Axeweldr and I love the way the pin up one rolls, but its stronger than I expected.
If I get the Gladiator I planned on drilling it like the pin down one is, but I am afraid they may overlap. I have a Granite Gargoyle drilled like the pin down one too, with X hole just inside my val in thumb quad. but I'm afraid with 2 already drilled like that (Granite for heavy, FMG for med? gladiator for what?) the Gladiator may overlap one.
What I need is a pearl that can get down lane, probably drilled with a 6-6 1/2 Pin-PAP distance (Pin over middle finger, about 1-1 1/2 up) and the CG in the same location as these balls. This is for a burnt head situation so I can play deep inside lines and get the thing down lane. I have the pin up FMG at 2000 abrolon, and was considering taking it to 4000 and polishing the crap out of it to get it something like that, but am thinking of trying the Pearl Gladiator for that.
Either way, my Violet got messed up when a sweep unexpectedly came down and when the ball hit it, it chunked a piece out of the ball off the thumb hole. I've been in the market for a benchmark ball now and plan on drilling something like the Violet Gargoyle is (again, its drilled like the pin down FMG, and Granite).
I think the Gladiator may be the ticket. Will it roll similar, and/or overlap with the pin down FMG? I haven't got to throw the pin down one yet, but the pin up one is great. Here are a few pictures from them off the Ebay Auction I won.
Pin Up
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=110228236633&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=001
Pin Down
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=110228237314&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=001
Later,
REvans284
Edited on 3/12/2008 4:39 PM
So it was you that outbid me the last second on the FMG's last week
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