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Title: New Video (Layout pics added)
Post by: Androooo on January 19, 2009, 11:10:36 PM
Enjoy boys and girls.

I finally got some time to make a new video.

I do apologize for the lack of consistency on some shots, but I haven't thrown a ball for over 6 weeks. Besides, it was on a THS, and lets face it... who needs to be consistent?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttyvHRsJZ1g
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Edited on 1/21/2009 5:42 PM
Title: Re: New Video (Layout pics added)
Post by: axeweldr on January 20, 2009, 07:15:27 AM
Need to get some pics of the layouts on those balls.  Pretty sweet looking arsenal.

John
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Title: Re: New Video (Layout pics added)
Post by: scotts33 on January 20, 2009, 07:24:17 AM
Very nice Andrew.  I like John's suggestion.
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Title: Re: New Video (Layout pics added)
Post by: Joe Jr on January 20, 2009, 07:32:57 AM
Nice, you catch a handful thats for sure.
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Title: Re: New Video (Layout pics added)
Post by: getuaload on January 20, 2009, 07:37:11 AM
Androoo would it be possible for you to put the videos on putfile. I only ask because my work has youtube blocked. but i can see putfile videos.

If not its ok i will check them out when i get home.
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Title: Re: New Video (Layout pics added)
Post by: gsback on January 20, 2009, 09:29:11 AM
quote:
Not to be the a-hole here, but did anyone notice that all the ball reactions were about the same?

Good bowling skills, easy ths pattern makes any ball look great


I don't know if I would say the ball reactions were the same.  What were you expecting??

I saw different lines for the different balls, ranging from tighter to swing, or what I think is a swing shot.  Sure...some of the balls played in the same area, but I would expect that.  I do see the same thing out of my shots, though I will play a couple different lines.

Nice vid though of all the balls!!
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Title: Re: New Video (Layout pics added)
Post by: Androooo on January 20, 2009, 11:37:28 AM
Layouts are as follows...

New Breed - 5"x45*x45* VAL Box Finish
Gladiators - 5"x60*x45* VAL Box Finish
AMB Solid & Pearl - 5"x45*x45* VAL Hole on PAP Box Finish
Particle - 6"x45*x60* VAL 4000abr and Beans
Green Blue - Pin above fingers Approx 4", MB in thumb 4000abr and Beans
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Title: Re: New Video (Layout pics added)
Post by: Nor Cal Bowler on January 20, 2009, 03:00:27 PM
Andrew,

Do you by chance have pics on how your stuff is layed out?

Thanks!
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Title: Re: New Video (Layout pics added)
Post by: axeweldr on January 20, 2009, 03:03:01 PM
Was thinking the same thing!  

John
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Title: Re: New Video (Layout pics added)
Post by: MC on January 20, 2009, 08:56:18 PM
Nice video. Is your Green Blue polished?
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Title: Re: New Video (Layout pics added)
Post by: Androooo on January 20, 2009, 09:53:06 PM
I will work on getting some pics of the layouts... they do look weird with my PAP (4 3/4 over and 1 3/4 up)... Especially with the Sarge grip
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Title: Re: New Video (Layout pics added)
Post by: OddBalls on January 21, 2009, 02:55:34 PM
quote:
Not to be the a-hole here, but did anyone notice that all the ball reactions were about the same?

Good bowling skills, easy ths pattern makes any ball look great
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My point being that any ball would look good on that pattern with the skills he has. It didn't really matter which ball was used as they were all in the same place on the lanes and had almost the same reaction.


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Title: Re: New Video (Layout pics added)
Post by: gsback on January 21, 2009, 03:23:36 PM
quote:
My point being that any ball would look good on that pattern with the skills he has. It didn't really matter which ball was used as they were all in the same place on the lanes and had almost the same reaction.


As I said to Inverted 1 above, I disagree.  While the overall reaction is going to be similar in some of the balls, not all balls were in the same place.  

I can't see where he's throwing at the arrows, but to say that all balls at the break were the same isn't true.  The NB Pearl varied between 7-10 board it looked like whereas the G3 seems to be go out around the 4-5 board and the Glad Pearl was played more inside going out to 9-12 board.  The Glad solid saw a shift in feet to the right.  I didn't write anything down for the rest....but to say they were all the same isn't true at all.

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Title: Re: New Video (Layout pics added)
Post by: Androooo on January 21, 2009, 04:42:07 PM
Pictures of some of the layout are as follows...

http://www.tasbowling.com/21012009003.jpg
http://www.tasbowling.com/21012009004.jpg
http://www.tasbowling.com/21012009005.jpg
http://www.tasbowling.com/21012009006.jpg

All constructive criticism is appreciated... ect ect

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Title: Re: New Video (Layout pics added)
Post by: Nor Cal Bowler on January 21, 2009, 05:27:57 PM
wow that is very interesting...
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Title: Re: New Video (Layout pics added)
Post by: getuaload on January 22, 2009, 07:39:44 AM
How long have you been using the sarge easter grip ? In your old Ogre videos it looked like a normal grip.
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Title: Re: New Video (Layout pics added)
Post by: Oskuposer on January 22, 2009, 07:42:53 AM
That Ring finger could probably reach china
I know ur in australia but i cant think of what you would dig to, too early
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Title: Re: New Video (Layout pics added)
Post by: bowlingnut07 on January 22, 2009, 07:50:54 AM
if he got any more of the ball, he hook it 2 lanes to left.
hes got skills either that or a motor in his release hand lol
new breed looks awesome
Title: Re: New Video (Layout pics added)
Post by: batbowler on January 22, 2009, 08:12:49 AM
I agree with gsback! He played different lines and the break point was similar or the same, but what do you expect on a ths? You'll get the same or similar break point, but your lay down point will be modified to allowed for different strengths of the ball. Plus, the drill patterns were similar and you'll get similar shapes! I appreciate the video and you did a great job on it, plus the bonus of the layouts! Just my $.02, Bruce
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Title: Re: New Video (Layout pics added)
Post by: Androooo on January 28, 2009, 03:42:09 PM
quote:
How long have you been using the sarge easter grip ? In your old Ogre videos it looked like a normal grip.
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Been using the Sarge for about 6 months. It was out of necessity than want. Strained the tendons in my wrist and hand while at work, and this is the only way I could throw the ball without pain. It actually feels really good now. Dropped in weight down to 14lbs and with this grip, I can actually get more hand positions than I used to.

For the people that want to see it, I have made a video of my release.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTST93bmREU

quote:
That Ring finger could probably reach china
I know ur in australia but i cant think of what you would dig to, too early
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I think the ring is close to Russia
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Edited on 1/28/2009 4:43 PM
Title: Re: New Video (Layout pics added)
Post by: icewall on January 28, 2009, 07:00:09 PM
very nice release, to me looks like your behind the ball and your balanced at the line. plus it doesnt hurt to have lots of revs!

thanks for the vids... sure the ths hides the differences between balls but thats what most of us bowl on enjoyable non the less.

o and your pap is very close to mine... mine is 4 1/2 by 1 1/4 up but i dont have all those revs you have.
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Edited on 1/28/2009 8:04 PM

Edited on 1/28/2009 8:43 PM
Title: Re: New Video (Layout pics added)
Post by: Androooo on January 28, 2009, 08:12:36 PM
I like keeping the layouts basic... Then I let the motor and the tires dictate what they will do.

For extremes, I will different layouts if I'm trying to accomplish a different look. EG: my SS (not videoed) is drilled 45*x4" with a 30* VAL angle.... HUGE backend movement for getting real deep.
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Title: Re: New Video (Layout pics added)
Post by: Androooo on January 30, 2009, 02:58:18 AM
About 5 mins... Sanded up to 4000 then hit with Bean Secret Sauce... Polished quite easy.

Not as glossy as a reactive, but it's shiny enough
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