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Q&A pt 2
« on: August 13, 2007, 07:51:47 AM »
OK guys and gals, it has come to my attention that I have missed some questions that came up lately.  I am ready, if you want to shoot them at me.

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Re: Q&A pt 2
« Reply #61 on: October 11, 2007, 11:58:10 AM »
Thanks Jason ,For the emails about this problem i had with my Immortal Solid. I did what you said and redrilled my Solid . It now is drilled 5 x 5 and it really came to life. I used it tuesday night. shot 750 It really works now and fills the gap that i needed it to. thanks For your help. VBP is the best in custmoer service.
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Re: Q&A pt 2
« Reply #62 on: October 26, 2007, 11:25:57 PM »
Hi Jason,

Would it be possible to add mass bias for the future Orge?

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Re: Q&A pt 2
« Reply #63 on: October 29, 2007, 08:36:20 PM »
Jason,

This is just a matter of academic interest.

Regarding the composition of the Purple Ice's coverstock,
on the Visionary's discontinued balls web page,
http://www.visionarybowling.com/ItemsForSale/shopcartindex.html
I saw this description:
"Light load particle pearl ball with a blend base."

Does that mean that the base in which the particles were embedded
was a blend of urethane and resin?
If not, what was it a blend of?

Thanks.
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Re: Q&A pt 2
« Reply #64 on: November 01, 2007, 05:51:43 PM »
ttt
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Re: Q&A pt 2
« Reply #65 on: November 02, 2007, 12:44:38 PM »
Hey guys,

Sorry about the little hiatus, things have just been a little crazy lately.

getuaload,

Glad to hear that the ball is working now.  I figured that the different layout would help out a lot, so it's good to know that it actually worked.

wkf0908,

It would be possible to do another version of the core, with a different mass bias, but I think that the core shape has run it's course.  We used this core design as kind of an experiment, to show bowlers how modifications in densities and slight changes in shapes can make a very significant difference in ball reaction.  As can be seen by looking at the core design, the Green/Blue Centaur, AMB Centaurs, Immortals, and the Ogres all have used a fairly similar shape, with a wide variety of cap and density changes.  By adjusting the cap locations and densities, we made balls with virtually no differential (G/B Centaur) all the way up to balls with highest approvable differential (Immortal line).  In addition we were able to create balls with a mild arcing reaction, skid/snap balls with huge backends, and balls that will hook on an oil slick.

Dbar71,

I wish that I could give you an answer in one direction or another with the spare balls.  Obviously, we would love to have our clear ball back in the line.  We have been trying unsuccessfully for several years now to try and find someone who can make them to our standards.  Unfortunately these balls cannot be made here in the US, and keep a competitive price.  Clear polyester here in the states is very expensive, and trying to make them domestically would be too cost prohibitive.  We have not given up with the search, and we are going to continue our attempts at trying to find someone to make them properly.

Charlest,

You are absolutely right.  At the time we released the Purple Ice Executioner, the idea of a particle pearl was a little different than it is now.  Back then, the goal for a PP was to create a ball with a consistant roll, yet still hit and carry like a reactive.  We combined a few basic urethane polyols with a reactive blend, and threw in a soft, non-abrasive particle to create the Purple Ice.  It wasn't the most aggressive ball nor the most forgiving, but it was consistant and hit very hard.  I think part of the reason that it didn't go over as well as anticipated, was because the ball did not correct user error.  If you released the ball differently or missed your mark, most of the time you knew it.  However, it did blend out tough/spotty conditions so that bowlers could use it on sport or tournament patterns.

Jason Wonders
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Edited on 11/2/2007 12:47 PM

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Re: Q&A pt 2
« Reply #66 on: November 03, 2007, 05:46:10 AM »
Thanks again, Jason.
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Re: Q&A pt 2
« Reply #67 on: November 23, 2007, 08:50:09 PM »
Unfortunatly mate Jason has said before that the trouble with polyester balls is the material is very costly these days and thus cost currently outwieghs the benefit and currently they cannot find a partner that upholds their standards of quality.  It is great to have a team where quality is important.  I'm sure a urethane is on its way and I'm sure they are trying to get that polyester replacement.  What has always made Visionary so great is when they make something it will stand out.

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Re: Q&A pt 2
« Reply #68 on: November 23, 2007, 08:54:49 PM »
Darkman, I believe Jason was referring to a clear plastic ball like the Clear Gargoyle that they had for a short while.  I believe he said that most clear plastic balls were being manufactured overseas.


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Re: Q&A pt 2
« Reply #69 on: November 23, 2007, 09:39:03 PM »
I'm excited to see what the new line of High Performance balls is going to be like.  

I have seen the Ogre Solid used recently at a tournament and with a strong layout, it had more length than what I expected.  The good thing about that though was he could play up the track where noone else could, and the ball just hit phenominal with great carry and messengers everywhere.  Either way I want something stronger in the mid lane but not quite as strong as the FMG/AMB Solid or Immortals with their flare high flare potential (closer to the Violet Gargoyle but maybe with a lower RG for a faster reving core).  That would be great.

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Re: Q&A pt 2
« Reply #70 on: February 05, 2009, 01:14:34 PM »
ttt in case you missed this one.


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Re: Q&A pt 2
« Reply #71 on: February 05, 2009, 07:37:44 PM »
these threads have been some great reads!!
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