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bcw1969

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Rare Ebay Find
« on: April 21, 2020, 10:18:59 AM »
Someone is selling a nib 15 pound Visionary Green Gargoyle. I had the slate blue & the granite in the past, but never had this one...I know it would it would be too snappy for me, but from what I remember reading on this site, those that had one loved it.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/visionary-green-gargoyle/324141961819?hash=item4b785dd25b:g:DhMAAOSwpIBenjnB

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Re: Rare Ebay Find
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2020, 09:11:19 AM »
Someone is selling a nib 15 pound Visionary Green Gargoyle. I had the slate blue & the granite in the past, but never had this one...I know it would it would be too snappy for me, but from what I remember reading on this site, those that had one loved it.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/visionary-green-gargoyle/324141961819?hash=item4b785dd25b:g:DhMAAOSwpIBenjnB

Brad

The Mean Green was completely bad ass.  Probably my favorite ball I have ever owned.  Have to remember how old that ball is though.  Oil conditions generally have gotten longer in length and/or higher volume from the time that ball was released.  Unless you have a lot of hand, that ball may not be the ball you start the night with on a house shot. 

I have a 16# with well over 1000 games on it and pulled it out a few months ago just to see what would happen.  Even on a fresh condition and my rev rate, I had to play around 12 at the arrows and the ball did not flip at all because the ball wanted to go too long.  Ball never really had the chance to "rev up and go".  You may say that the ball has a lot of games on it.  From one of the great things about those older VBP balls was that they were known to soak up very little oil.  So it isnt as though mine is super saturated.  The cover is still in great condition as well.  Its is just the difference between bowling on a 36-38 foot pattern with medium volume and a 40 foot pattern with a little more volume up front. 

With all that said.....if you can do it I would jump all over that ball. 
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Re: Rare Ebay Find
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2020, 06:52:35 AM »
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The Mean Green was completely bad ass.  Probably my favorite ball I have ever owned.  Have to remember how old that ball is though.  Oil conditions generally have gotten longer in length and/or higher volume from the time that ball was released.  Unless you have a lot of hand, that ball may not be the ball you start the night with on a house shot.

I have a 16# with well over 1000 games on it and pulled it out a few months ago just to see what would happen.  Even on a fresh condition and my rev rate, I had to play around 12 at the arrows and the ball did not flip at all because the ball wanted to go too long.  Ball never really had the chance to "rev up and go".  You may say that the ball has a lot of games on it.  From one of the great things about those older VBP balls was that they were known to soak up very little oil.  So it isnt as though mine is super saturated.  The cover is still in great condition as well.  Its is just the difference between bowling on a 36-38 foot pattern with medium volume and a 40 foot pattern with a little more volume up front.

With all that said.....if you can do it I would jump all over that ball. 

I remember Steven doing very well at Open Natl's one year with the Green Meanie!   :)
Scott

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Re: Rare Ebay Find
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2020, 08:20:45 AM »
Scott,

What is going on?  Been a while.  I had quite a few sets over 700 with the Mean Green at USBCs.  I also remember going 30 clean and 740 in Singles as well one year I want to say in Baton Rouge.  The Green never left my bag for what seemed like 10 years because it never stopped performing.  The ball seemed to be just as good after 10 years as it did right out of the box and I never once did any significant resurfacing to it.  I did the typical Clean and Dull and re-polish every 9-12 games and hit it with a fresh abralon pad every 30 games roughly. 

The Green and Crimson Executioner will always be my all times favorites.  Highest series in my life was with the Crimson.  Something about the cover on both those balls (I remember it being the same coverstock and only difference was the core) really matched up well for me and even though they were both angular in their time, I could use them both in league as well as tournament conditions.  My fondest memory was bowling a SASBA stop in Memphis at Winchester back around 2002 and averaged 250 for the 9 games of qualifying and beat Chris Johnson in a semi-final match and DJ Archer in the championship match of a stepladder.  Many memories with VBP in my hands. 
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Re: Rare Ebay Find
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2020, 06:59:40 PM »
Good to see you post Steven!  I miss VBP and their old stuff. 

Stay well!
Scott

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Re: Rare Ebay Find
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2020, 01:52:53 PM »
The Green Gargoyle stories are killing me. Are there any of those still around?
Would love to buy one. I'm willing to pay 300 for a new in box and would love a lightly used one if there's one out there.