I got to drill up this one last night. It's not as ugly as most people say. I actually like the color of it a bit. Anyway, after measuring out the mb and laying the ball out, I wound up with the pin over ring finger, mb 2.5" right of thumb. I was hoping to get a long, strong and smooth reaction out of this pattern.

I was able to throw the ball in league on a shot that seemed to have more oil than usual. In addition, it is a late league so there is carrydown from open play and earlier leagues.

I was not able to swing the ball at all on this shot. The carrydown completely killed the reaction and the ball barely moved at all. So, I moved outside and played 11 at the arrows, 8 as my bp. What I found is a long and smooth reaction. The ball cleared the heads easily and practically ignored the mids, then it just rolled up very controllably into the pocket. Now, this isn't the optimal condition for this ball, but I was determined to use my new piece so I stuck with it.

I was able to find some dry boards downlane at about 5, so I pushed the ball out to see what it would do and it reacts much stronger off the dry, obviously, but the reaction was still smooth and controlled. I can't wait til I get this ball on a fresh shot with stripped backends. Then I can really see what it will do.

Thus far, I like what I see out of this and the Ogre. Very impressed with Visionary stuff. I'm planning on purchasing my platinum test staff membership this week, now I need to choose 4 more balls!!


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The best ball is the one that knocks down all of the pins!

Generally Rock77 a G-3 will handle some carry down and is stronger off the spot than than the Bronze.
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Scott