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Equipment Boards => Visionary => Topic started by: PJM300 on August 04, 2003, 03:14:10 AM
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Bowlingballreviews.com has the pic
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Brian,....
Yep, it's the Gargoyle core wrapped in urethane!.......
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JEFF
Just chimin' in !
Edited on 8/5/2003 9:03 AM
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Anyone know when this is going to be released?
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With that wrap around it, that looks like a slighlty modified Gryphon core. (Which is the Gargoyle core anyways). I bet that ball is going to hurt the pins once it gets to the pocket!!!!.
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In the old days people used to cut wood with axes.....................now and days...............they just have Executioners do it for them!
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Finally! At last a company realizes how to make a dry lane ball. Resin never works, and a weak core sacrafices too much power. Thank god visionary is so smart. Weak surface and real core is better than strong surface and (vitrtually)no core. I cant wait to get my hands on this. I have a Granite Gargoyle(heavy or long), a Wicked(med or league), and an accura (spare). This thing will fit in perfectly. Does anyone think i should get a green gargoyle to replace my Wicked so i'll have a gargoyle arsenal? I may consider it when i get more money
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"Isn't Bowling supposed to be scored like Golf?"
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Bujo --- I was thinking the same thing. I'm thinking that a arsenal of Gargoyles (Slate, Green & Granite) could cover just about everything, especially if I perfect my adjustments.
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You might need to consider something other than the Granite for the floods unless you doctor up the cover.
My friend throws one of those and it's super versatile, just not real effective in longer heavier oils. You'll be able to handle almost everything you see with the Granite.
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In the old days people used to cut wood with axes.....................now and days...............they just have Executioners do it for them!
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Is this new urethane ball pearl, or polished solid?
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it is pearl
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In the old days people used to cut wood with axes.....................now and days...............they just have Executioners do it for them!
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Anyone know when this is going to be released?
2nd week of Sept.
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it is pearl
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In the old days people used to cut wood with axes.....................now and days...............they just have Executioners do it for them!
Are you sure about this??? BBR's specs only say 1500 polished urethane. Just because it has swirling in the color doesn't automatically make it a pearl.
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Penn State Proud
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Actually I'm not sure.....I thought I was but now I'm just speculating. I guess I heard rumors and kept them in my head. Oh well..........but don't you think a solid polished urethane will be too much ball for lighter conditions?
I had and original two piece red hammer urethane pearl that was too much ball for toast.
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In the old days people used to cut wood with axes.....................now and days...............they just have Executioners do it for them!
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Just asked Visionary and they said it is a pearl.
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Damn...I thought so...........with that core a solid urethane would be off the charts for lighter patterns. I guess I didn't hear rumors after all.
I also emailed Visionary a few minutes ago myself to make sure, but I didn't get anything from them yet.
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In the old days people used to cut wood with axes.....................now and days...............they just have Executioners do it for them!
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Thanks for checking guys. Sound great to me. I've been wanting something like this for a while. Looks like I'll be able to save a few bucks over an XXL.
Slate Gargoyle: RG = 2.59, diff = 0.038
XXL: RG = 2.557, diff = 0.024
My only concerns are for the higher differential (flare) on the Gargoyle and the rumored cracking problems Visionary had with the Glowing Amulet's urethane.
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Penn State Proud
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the rumored cracking problems Visionary had with the Glowing Amulet's urethane.
I hadnt heard those. I've had mine for about a year now and so far no problems and it has hit something around the pindeck area once or twice and gone flying up. That is never a good feeling to see it go airborne at the pindeck
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thanks on the release date, I was going to have something redrilled; but I can waite a couple of weeks.
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What is the hardness of the Slate Blue.......if I recall the hardness of the Glowing Amulet was somewhere around 86 on the durometer. Could that also attribute to cracking other than the glowing additive?
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In the old days people used to cut wood with axes.....................now and days...............they just have Executioners do it for them!
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Im betting the glow additive may have given it such hardness, but what do i know?
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"Isn't Bowling supposed to be scored like Golf?"
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If it was so hard, why did it track up like it did???
I had one for 5-10 games and it had a noticeable track in it by that time. I was using on regular (not fried) lane conditions as well...
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Doug Sterner
Doug's Pro Shop
Owego, NY
http://dougsproshop@aol.com
www.dougsproshop.net
Think about it....pins are wood, lanes are wood...
the weapon of choice is obvious...
CUT 'EM UP BABY it's BUZZSAW TIME!!!
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I had a nail back in the old urethane days. it tracked. I don't think hardness is all that's involved in tracking, maybe it's more brittle and the surface wears off just differently.
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"deserves got nothing to do with it."
-- William Munny
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What is the difference between the Slate Gargoyle and the Glowing Amulet, besides the "glow"?
Both are urethane covers wrapped in a Gargoyle Core.
Just wondering if anyone has heard the difference?
Thanks,
plippens
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I'm not positive but if anyone more informed wants to follow up on me I think the hardness is the only difference.
The hardness of the Glow is like 86 on the durometer, to the eyes and hands it looks and feels like plastic. Most likely it causes alot less friction then the urethane even though it's a polished pearl cover.
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In the old days people used to cut wood with axes.....................now and days...............they just have Executioners do it for them!
Pin_Krusher IS a serious threat to modern day bowling wood as we know it today.
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Visionary said they tried to match the Glowing Amulet with the new urethane ball so they will have the same core and a slight difference in the shell material (probably because of lack of whatever made it glow). So everything should be close to the Glowing Amulet, as far as specs go.
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Anyone know when this is going to be released?
Visionary said Sept 15th.
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Differences between the Amulet Glow and the Slate Blue Gargoyle:
Aren't Visionary's own words the defining difference?
The website says the Slate is a pearl urethane. The Amulet Glow was a solid urethane.
"The Slate Blue Gargoyle uses the highly successful Gargoyle core design, and wraps it with a pearlized urethane coverstock."
That is a major difference. No matter how hard or polished it was, my Amulet got much less length length than I expected. I would surely expect the Slate Blue to get significantly more length.
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