Post by: MC on August 27, 2009, 04:48:42 PM
Feel free to ask questions, I will see if I can help.
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Post by: sluggo35 on August 28, 2009, 02:16:35 AM
Post by: gsback on August 28, 2009, 05:00:43 AM
Comparison on ball, even if only one shot, was nice because you are clearly able to see the backend snap the SS has versus what the Urethane didn't have.
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Post by: stormed1 on August 28, 2009, 10:33:27 AM
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Post by: gsback on August 28, 2009, 10:14:48 PM
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Post by: robospare on August 29, 2009, 08:10:48 PM
Post by: MC on August 29, 2009, 10:11:08 PM
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The Ogre U is money in the bank. Fits perfectly in between plastic and reactive. It will do exactly what your hand and fingers give it every time. The symmetrical block is so consistent. It forces you to roll the ball and stay focused and mindful of your target on each shot. After practicing with the Ogre U for about 6 games and then switching to the Ogre SS the lane really opened up. This ball will be great on short, light or dry lanes and is a very valuable training tool too. A must have in your Visionary bag!!!
Nicely put Roto.
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Post by: scotts33 on September 01, 2009, 07:55:14 AM
I wanted to point out one facet that some may have thought about in using a ball like the OU.
It's my opinion for some that they may not move far enough to the outside of the lane using a ball like the OU. Out of their track comfort zone as it were. If you say slide near 20 it maybe hard to move further outside to slide on 15 and work the outside parallel to the gutter say 4-5 board to allow the OU to roll up. Of course this is all dependent on amount of oil put across the lane. My point being the OU would allow a player to move further outside than normally allowed to on a average wet/dry THS lane condition that many see.
I think this ball could be a savior to a slower speed senior who wants to play more down and in and can't play his/her preferred line with the more powerful inside out modern equipment of today.
Just something to munch on.
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Post by: Mr Old School on September 01, 2009, 08:12:51 AM
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Post by: scotts33 on September 01, 2009, 08:22:13 AM
Thinking pin right and above ring and CG stacked below.......drilling angle and VAL angle not known for sure til I talk to my driller. He has drilled some Storm Natural's and will have some input.
I'll report back!
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Post by: MC on September 01, 2009, 01:02:08 PM
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Nice vid. I here alot of good things about Rick, was thinking of going to taylorville to have him punch my next ball.
You should. I have never had any issues with the fit when he is done, but other drillers always end up going back and having something adjusted. When you go, let him know you are on here and saw the videos.
Mike
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Post by: scotts33 on September 01, 2009, 02:08:06 PM
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Nice vid. I here alot of good things about Rick, was thinking of going to taylorville to have him punch my next ball.
You should. I have never had any issues with the fit when he is done, but other drillers always end up going back and having something adjusted. When you go, let him know you are on here and saw the videos.
Mike
Are we talking Taylorville, IL? Christian Co. The Taylorville Tornadoes?
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Post by: solid9proshop on September 01, 2009, 02:39:05 PM
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Post by: scotts33 on September 01, 2009, 02:59:46 PM
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Post by: robospare on September 01, 2009, 04:36:35 PM
I moved from 8 to 10 to 12 playing a out side down and in on the fresh THS and shot 185, 222, 257. This ball is so smooth and consistent. Slaps the pin around much more than I anticipated too. Visionary got it right with this symmetrical core and urethane cover. This ball forces you to bowl. Roll the ball, make shots and not just spray the lane like you can with a reactive cover.
Post by: carlos on September 01, 2009, 08:01:32 PM
Post by: akt22 on September 01, 2009, 10:05:25 PM
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How will this ball compare to the B/G. Can a person play the same area with both balls. I have a B/G and was thinking they would overlap. What are some thoughts. Thanks
This is what Charlest put up in my thread, when I asked the same question:
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The Blue/Green Centaur handles more oil and is much more adaptable than the hard shelled Ogre Urethane which is truly a dry lanes ball in almost anyone's hands. The BGC's surface can be easily manipulated anywhere from its stock 1000 grit US surface, down to 600 grit US to almost any level of polish, allowing it to handle anything from light to true medium oil, depending on drilling and your hand.
Visionary's hard shelled uretahnes, Glowing Amulet, Slate Blue Gargoyle and now the OU, are pretty stubborn shells to be changing from grit to grit. I just did a friend's SBG and it was hard work, plus you have to be very careful.
The solid shell on the BGC is so much easier to change.
Post by: NJStroker on September 02, 2009, 02:33:54 AM
quote:well some of the more powerful balls tend to hide release mistakes better and will recover better if you lose it off your hand a bit, stuff like that. i guess this ball won't do that, and doesnt cover up mistakes very well. and yes you should focus on every shot, but if you can spray and not focus and hit pocket and score, some people tend to get lazy and dont focus as much.quote:As will every other ball? No ball defies physics and just does something on its own???
It will do exactly what your hand and fingers give it every time.quote:I would encourage focusing on your target with any ball, usually helps your score!
It forces you to roll the ball and stay focused and mindful of your target on each shot.
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