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Title: Violet Gargoyle
Post by: da Shiv on August 05, 2004, 11:34:15 PM
Today's the release date.  Somebody must have an early report.  Let's hear it!

Shiv
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Title: Re: Violet Gargoyle
Post by: TheDude on August 07, 2004, 12:37:44 AM
I doubt it. Visionary is really anal when it comes to not letting stuff out before the offical release dates. I should have a report maybe in 2 weeks time. ball might be here by the end of next week. definately going to drill one tho.
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Title: Re: Violet Gargoyle
Post by: da Shiv on August 30, 2004, 09:16:41 AM
Compared to most ball releases there sure hasn't been much said about this one.  It's been out a couple weeks now and hardly a peep.  There's one review on www.bowlingballreviews.com but the ball isn't even listed on this site yet.  

If this were a Storm ball we'd have been hearing about for weeks before it's official release date.

Anybody?

Shiv
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Title: Re: Violet Gargoyle
Post by: scotts33 on August 30, 2004, 09:27:45 AM
Shiv--It seems site isn't keeping up with listing balls.  Other_guy from DT asked a number of times to get the DT Vendetta Pearl listed with pic and info.  Some info. is listed with no pic yet.  

As far as the Violet Gargoyle I have too many that are in that medium range to get another one.  

I'll have a mini-review on the Centaur I got after I've used it more on a walled up THS later this week.

Scott
Title: Re: Violet Gargoyle
Post by: da Shiv on August 30, 2004, 09:38:39 AM
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As far as the Violet Gargoyle I have too many that are in that medium range to get another one.


That's the hunch I have about this one too.  I like my medium stuff, but right now my heavy oil ball is a Granite, and my extreme light oil ball is the Slate Blue; so the reactions I get from the Gargoyle line agree with me.  That's why I'd consider taking a shot at this one if trustworthy reviewers like it and the price is right.

Shiv
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Title: Re: Violet Gargoyle
Post by: MI 2 AZ on August 30, 2004, 05:24:16 PM
Well, you know the price is right with the Gargoyle line

My Violet came in while my driller was out of town, TDY.  When he came back, I was just getting ready to go TDY myself, so I never got it over to him.  When I get back from KC, I will try to get it over to him and have it drilled up but right now I have no idea of how I would want it laid out.  I was hoping to see a couple of reviews on it but it's been quiet so far with this ball.
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Title: Re: Violet Gargoyle
Post by: Juggernaut on August 31, 2004, 05:13:11 PM
I e-mailed buddies last week asking about this ball.  They said they have them available, just haven't got them on the website yet.

 Don't know what the holdup is.
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Title: Re: Violet Gargoyle
Post by: scotts33 on August 31, 2004, 06:01:54 PM
Join the test staff if you want one or call Buddies.    That's the way I'd go.

Scott
Title: Re: Violet Gargoyle
Post by: MI 2 AZ on September 12, 2004, 10:57:50 PM
Anyone tried this ball yet?
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Title: Re: Violet Gargoyle
Post by: TheDude on September 14, 2004, 08:16:24 AM
Finally got my test ball last night. Looks really interesting with the color phasing.

Will drill it likely today or tonight, and report back within 24hrs.
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Title: Re: Violet Gargoyle
Post by: livespive on September 14, 2004, 09:36:00 AM
quote:
Finally got my test ball last night. Looks really interesting with the color phasing.

Will drill it likely today or tonight, and report back within 24hrs.
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Montreal, Quebec.


Cool,

I'll be waiting
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Title: Re: Violet Gargoyle
Post by: TheDude on September 14, 2004, 10:55:55 PM
My god lol this ball has a reaction i have never seen from visionary before.

For all of you saying" i don't need another medium ball" your going to be sorry this time. This by far is there best medium to light oil ball ever.

Color on the lane is specatular, and reaction and ball motion is a long clean move through the heads, and lots of flip on the backend. this ball just goes 45 feet and then flips sideways!! and it carries very well.

only problem so far is it really is best for a second shift condition maybe in leagues.

for longer oil it goes too long, and over skids. but if things start to go a little in the midlane this ball works the backends instead of starting up too soon.

I'm in love again.
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Montreal, Quebec.
Title: Re: Violet Gargoyle
Post by: TheDude on September 14, 2004, 11:05:52 PM
oh forgot the important details. lol sorry had a few drinks tonight, cause canada won the worlds.

ok used this first on a fresh house shot and this ball was over skidding. house shot is 43ft. can't remember where the buff area starts tho.

but i had to lower my speed and straighten up from normally playing a swing shot.

Normally my ball speed is about 28kms to 30kms, so that was too high for the gargoyle on my home center's house shot.

I was tempted to change the surface after the first tryout, but said to myself that this ball was not designed for this likely.

grabbed a pair of lanes after the early league and tried it again. it was going coast to coast, recovering from as deep as i could go.

ball's carry and reaction was reliable and very good. like always.
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Title: Re: Violet Gargoyle
Post by: Strider on September 15, 2004, 02:20:40 AM
Layout?  Box surface?
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Title: Re: Violet Gargoyle
Post by: livespive on September 15, 2004, 09:10:59 AM
So there almost still looks like there is a gap
between the Violet and the Granite.

How easy is it to adjust the surface of the ball?

For me 1500 would be alittle much on a medium oil ball.

If by any chance you play with the cover why don't you try
1000 or 800 polish.

The Gargoyle line up almost looks like this

Granite
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Violet
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Green
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Slate

What I'm getting at is there seems to be a big gap between the Granite and the Violet.  While the others are a little closer together.

Maybe another Gargoyle on the way?????????!?!?1??
There are 3 more question marks on the web site.
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Title: Re: Violet Gargoyle
Post by: TheDude on September 15, 2004, 09:38:25 AM
Um, lol i guess i did forget a few things last night. I never changed the ball's surface.

my layout was 4 x 3 pin below ring finger, no weight hole.

but likely if this ball was attacked with some surface then yup it would close the gap.

I would like to see a strong resin dull cover, or even pearl particle in the gargoyle line.
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Montreal, Quebec.
Title: Re: Violet Gargoyle
Post by: da Shiv on September 15, 2004, 09:46:29 AM
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I would like to see a strong resin dull cover, or even pearl particle in the gargoyle line.


I like the particle pearl idea.  That type of coverstock is what seems to work the best for me.  

I'm still looking for a little more buzz about the Violet Gargoyle.  It's one of three balls I'm considering right now.  I may buy two of them, but I'm not going to go for all three.

Shiv
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Title: Re: Violet Gargoyle
Post by: TheDude on September 15, 2004, 11:28:55 PM
For the burgandy try rev leverage.

as for the violet. i squared it up against an AMF Titan, and an AMF velocity tonight.

the Violet is weaker in the oil, but less sensitive to dry.

overall smooth and nice, but has enough flip to carry.

i could see a stronger cover placed on this ball, or just a cover change, to increase the reaction greatly.
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Montreal, Quebec.
Title: Re: Violet Gargoyle
Post by: Bujo on September 28, 2004, 10:30:37 PM
if you desprately need to fill the gap between violet and granite, why not try throwing some polish on another granite?
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